Xenonk Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 man, back from the dead... Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BENCOB Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Drive a steady/straight course as much/often as possible, don't change lanes unless you absolutely have to, quit trying to make the make turns as the lights are changing from green to yellow and/or red, gotta stop slaloming in traffic......better yet just park it and walk everywhere (but not if you consume any alcohol)......Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTATV Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 RX-7 > Miata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimmer Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 I thought the wagon was 50/50, what will moving the battery do? No, it's more like 60/40. It's such a pig, though, that I'm not convinced that even moving something as heavy as the battery would help... Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ih8vtec13 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Subarus in general are pigs. They plow in to turns and it takes some time before you get the hang of getting the front end where you want it to go, but once you get it there its really stable. Kind of the opposite of an EVO, that is no work to get it to turn in, but it makes you work to maintain it. Go to a few auto cross events and learn the car a little better and learn what a differance proper lines make in turns if you haven't, that will make the biggest differance of all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B. Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Without sacrificing street ride quality? I was thinking sway bars; one of my friends recommended I go springs, sway bars and shocks. In an ideal world where I unlimited money and I could run stiff suspension on the track and soften the ride for street use, I would do all that. But I'm wondering, what can I get away with? I have Kuhmo MXs for the street and Dunlop Super Sport Race tires for track use. What can I do so I can get the most out of my tires? put 40lb of sand in the trunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Best way? 1. Springs - Stiffer, which directly reduces body roll, and lowers center of gravity which reduces weight transfer and thus improves grip and reduces body roll. 2. Reduce the weight of the car as much as possible (cheap and better performance all around) 3. Swaybars - will reduce body roll and camber gain during cornering but will increase weight transfer and reduce comfort depending on how stiff of a bar(s) you choose. 4. Corner slower The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgeoff Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Corner slower Unpossible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottlj Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 swaybars, springs or coilovers, strut tower braces, and have a fat person in the back of the car so if you take a sharp turn tell them to roll to the other side so you can stay on all fours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimberDHexMods Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 ^Hilarious, and would work thanks to drive throughs! Long story short, sway bars. [CENTER][B][I] Front Limited Slip Racing Differentials for the 5EAT now available for $1895 shipped, please inquire for details! [/I][/B][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prod Posted July 1, 2008 Author Share Posted July 1, 2008 lol, I've seen prod's ownage wagon in action (and ridden in it while inebriated!) it NEEDS sways badly. Indeed it does. I'm going to stick it in the budget for 09. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 To not reduce ride quality, but reduce body roll - swaybars all the way. firmer springs inherently will increase ride firmness. Same for dampers (most req'd for the firmer springs anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 ^Swaybars will decrease ride quality over uneven surfaces though. So if you drive daily on crappy roads, then you will definitly feel a decrease in quality depending on how stiff a bar you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droquette Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 I have cobb front and rear sway bars and some springs. The car drives really well albeit harsh on bad roads. I am happy to make the sacrifice as The car handles superbly in turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecBee Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 Get a Spec B! .... No body roll!!!!! Plus they can corner @ 3g's on stock RE's Hey, I'm a poet..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blklgt05 Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 jdm rsb + used tein basic and drop that thing to the ground...+ roll fenders. mod journal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleM Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I'm glad this thread was resurrected. I was wondering the same thing. Springs or sways? I would like the new look that springs would give, and a lower center of gravity, but I heard that they don't do as much of a difference in overall handling, and that sway bars would be the better choice for increasing the handling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE_1985 Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 save money and get tokico d specs and used sways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 I'm glad this thread was resurrected. I was wondering the same thing. Springs or sways? I would like the new look that springs would give, and a lower center of gravity, but I heard that they don't do as much of a difference in overall handling, and that sway bars would be the better choice for increasing the handling... springs and struts should always be done before sways IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaceComp Engineering Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Sways will reduce roll more then lowering springs (usually), are easier to install, and don't require an alignment. So it's a quick, effective, and cheap first step with little penalty in ride quality. That said, the OEM struts + springs are just not that good for the LGT, so it makes it a tough call if you HAVE to choose between the two. - andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyDog Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 springs and struts should always be done before sways IMO. trust this guy... i've have rsb with perrin endlinks and i'm still rolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleM Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 springs and struts should always be done before sways IMO. Hmmm, interesting. What reasons do you have for this conclusion? Keep in mind that my struts are already kinda upgraded since the spec b comes with bilsteins... To be specific, I have a choice between either a set of 22mm Perrin front and rear sway bars without endlinks, or a set of Swift springs. In a perfect world, the obvious choice would be both, but considering that I'll be going to college in the fall, I gotta take it easy with the mod spending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinlsb Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Hmmm, interesting. What reasons do you have for this conclusion? Keep in mind that my struts are already kinda upgraded since the spec b comes with bilsteins... To be specific, I have a choice between either a set of 22mm Perrin front and rear sway bars without endlinks, or a set of Swift springs. In a perfect world, the obvious choice would be both, but considering that I'll be going to college in the fall, I gotta take it easy with the mod spending. I totally disagree with springs first. Sways reduce roll and camber changes with out compromising straight line ride or ride height. Springs will do the same thing, but ride quality Will suffer under all conditions. The best setup,(for the street (and for that matter on bumpy tracks) is the softest spring/shock rates possible and the sway bars set to stiff. Remember that body roll does not impact actual cornering G's. Preventing camber changes does and both springs and sways do this. Changing the roll center (via springs) will also increase G's (via lowering) but suspension travel also suffers and you will hit the bump stops which is NOT good. (Damn Bumps!) So if you want to "blast" down old bumpy back roads, sways are the way to go. If you want to "blast" down nicely paved city streets, springs are great. My 2 cents from an old bat! "Belief does not make truth. Evidence makes truth. And belief does not make evidence." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 ...Remember that body roll does not impact actual cornering G's. Preventing camber changes does and both springs and sways do this. Changing the roll center (via springs) will also increase G's (via lowering) but suspension travel also suffers and you will hit the bump stops which is NOT good. (Damn Bumps!)... +1 One caveat... increasing roll stiffness through stiffer springs or stiffer sways will increase lateral weight transfer during cornering, which can reduce grip if your tires aren't up to the task, or if the weather/conditions are poor. It is all a balancing act, so take plenty of time to research... The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaceComp Engineering Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 There is definitely a bigger jump in wheel rate going from the stock rear swaybar to even a 20mm rear bar then there is from stock to lowering springs. - andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.