cotmfk Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 So, what's up with this? I don't feel like going back and reading this thread at the moment, although I am sure at some time of boredom I will! But if a quick synopsis could be made, that would be much appreciated! Thanks! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ha-evolution Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Quick & Dirty Summary: Waflowers has "predicted" that there will be a higher performance version of the Legacy (STi?) arriving in the US sometime in 2005. Realistically the GT should be sufficient but for some of us more is always better. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axis008 Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Not really predicted, rather he has insider information. Hopefully it's accurate to some degree. I don't doubt him the least! -ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ha-evolution Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 [quote name='axis008']Not really predicted, rather he has insider information. Hopefully it's accurate to some degree. I don't doubt him the least![/quote] I was aware of that hence the quotes around predicted. I don't doubt his source either, just trying to keep it on the down low. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axis008 Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Haha okay.. :X shhh... -ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotmfk Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 I just read through the WHOLE thread... WHEW! Some good posts, some not so good. Best post so far, though: [quote name='EJ20H-TT']Hopefully the Sti will have seats[/quote] :lol: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axis008 Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 [quote name='cotmfk']I just read through the WHOLE thread... WHEW! Some good posts, some not so good. Best post so far, though: [quote name='EJ20H-TT']Hopefully the Sti will have seats[/quote] :lol: :lol:[/quote]Hahaha.. How funny! :P -ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ha-evolution Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 I could see Subaru leaving the seats out of the STi just because everybody complains about the seats so they you get to choose your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotmfk Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 That would be cool, but I think it's too customized to be profitable? Considering how low production the Legacy STi would be, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedmonkee Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Reading back in the first pages - you guys were arguing about seats and how much leather weighs for the GT and the non GT model. My leather on my WRX weighs about 10lbs more. (Katzkin leather kit) I also have heaters and massagers in my seats. They weigh about 5 lbs more. (actually, heaters are really light) The motors for the massagers are pretty small.) I think the weight you guys were talking about comes from the 8 way and 4 way POWER seats. That stuff is heavy - motors and such. my .02 I am waiting on the legacy GT and delaying til Sept just in case.... jeremy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ha-evolution Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 [quote name='cotmfk']That would be cool, but I think it's too customized to be profitable? Considering how low production the Legacy STi would be, at least.[/quote] Uh, well anythings possible I guess. Of course I was only joking when I said that. A bit of a rib against the seat-whiners and the fact that I couldn't figure out where the "at least the STi will have seats" quote came from or meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team23jordan Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Legacy STi should get recaro seat or sparco seat they are soo much better than STi seats hopefully they are not gonna use seats from USDM impreza STi cuz they are made for 400lbs fat people Perrin BIG maf intake Perrin Turbo Inlet HKS SSQV BOV Megan Racing header with UP (ceramic coated) HKS DP (WRX) DMH E-cutout Custom 3" catback UTEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 The JDM STi seats you've seen me put pictures up of before I'm told are actual Recaros. Not ultra JDM tight, might fit some of our mid to tighter framed Americans well. I'm actually very curious about some of the new Sparco seats (in black only.) Monza [img]http://www.sparcousa.com/prdImg/499.jpg[/img] Siena [img]http://www.sparcousa.com/prdImg/504.jpg[/img] The Milano and Tourino 2 are always nice as well though. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotmfk Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 [quote name='speedmonkee'] I am waiting on the legacy GT and delaying til Sept just in case.... jeremy[/quote] Welcome to the board! I will probably be waiting until Dec 31, or right around there. If there is a performance Legacy coming, it should be announced by then, or the rumours will start looking very credible. If there is no news of a "big-boy" coming, then I will be able to get a regular Leg GT at a good discount. :) I am not in a huge rush to buy, anyways. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ha-evolution Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 [quote name='SUBE555']I'm actually very curious about some of the new Sparco seats (in black only.) The Milano and Tourino 2 are always nice as well though. :)[/quote] The new seats look cool, especially the blues for an STi fitment. I tried the Torino at SEMA and it was way too tight in the upper body area for me - instant back pain. The Milano was perfect, especially in Leather. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotmfk Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 [quote name='ha-evolution'][quote name='SUBE555']I'm actually very curious about some of the new Sparco seats (in black only.) The Milano and Tourino 2 are always nice as well though. :)[/quote] The new seats look cool, especially the blues for an STi fitment. I tried the Torino at SEMA and it was way too tight in the upper body area for me - instant back pain. The Milano was perfect, especially in Leather. :wink:[/quote] Racing seats with leather are still a bit of an oxymoron for me, just my opinion. The Evo will be offering it as a stock option for the 2004s, though! I still want leather in my Legacy, though, if I were to get one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kage Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 I would think the majority of the weight difference between the GT and GT Limited is in the moonroof. Lots of glass + reinforcement around the opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 [quote name='cotmfk'][quote name='ha-evolution'][quote name='SUBE555']I'm actually very curious about some of the new Sparco seats (in black only.) The Milano and Tourino 2 are always nice as well though. :)[/quote] The new seats look cool, especially the blues for an STi fitment. I tried the Torino at SEMA and it was way too tight in the upper body area for me - instant back pain. The Milano was perfect, especially in Leather. :wink:[/quote] Racing seats with leather are still a bit of an oxymoron for me, just my opinion. The Evo will be offering it as a stock option for the 2004s, though! I still want leather in my Legacy, though, if I were to get one![/quote] The seats that I look at aren't 'race' seats, they're sport/street adjustable seats. When I think of race seats, they're solid and padded for a specific driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ha-evolution Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 I was looking at street-use seats also. I'm not enough of a masochist to put racing seats in a daily driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waflowers Posted March 20, 2004 Author Share Posted March 20, 2004 [quote name='axis008']Not really predicted, rather he has insider information. Hopefully it's accurate to some degree. I don't doubt him the least![/quote] Thanks, although there are times I begin to doubt myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotmfk Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 [quote name='ha-evolution']I was looking at street-use seats also. I'm not enough of a masochist to put racing seats in a daily driver.[/quote] Looks like I went a little too far! Oh well.. point taken! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSB Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 I haven't bothered reading through all 9 pages, but I wonder if waflowers sources story on the "big boy" will be any different since they previewed the 3.0l spec B @ Geneva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 MSB, that is my take on it. Big boy, big meaning more displacement, hence 3.0L H6. *shrug* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotmfk Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 There seems to be no actual power difference between the 2.5 GT and the 3.0R. Just 2.5 T versus 3.0 NA. I think that's very weird. Why would you offer two of the same cars with the same amount of power, but different engines? It seems too close to me, like the models would cannibalize each other's sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimil Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 [quote name='SUBE555']MSB, that is my take on it. Big boy, big meaning more displacement, hence 3.0L H6. *shrug*[/quote] Some people say 'Size does matter" and some say "It's how you use it" (Hey I'm talking about 2.5 Turbo vs 3.0 NA :) ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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