TSiWRX Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 I know it would be pretty difficult to get a car up on ramps in reverse but it can be done. Don't bother with reversing up the ramps.... Just punch it up the ramps in "D" - and don't let off even when you clear the front wheels. Ignore any harsh noises from the undercarriage or any jarring thumps. Remember, power goes from wheels that slip to wheels that grip, let the Symmetical AWD keep pushing your rear wheels, they'll get you onto the ramp, back there, soon enough. <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mblock66 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 I will see if I can get it on ramps. You shouldn't have to take the tire off to do this? Why did you do that? More room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedeck Posted September 28, 2005 Author Share Posted September 28, 2005 No you shouldn't have to take the tire off. It was just easier to take the bar out, that way....for me at least. others may claim otherwise, but I guess there's multiple ways to handle this. For me, I just used the tire off routine to get the bar out. EDIT: By the way...REMEMBER how you took the old bar out...so that you can visualize putting the new bar back in! Trust me, it will help a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickDastardly00 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 inthedeck did you jack up the rear and put it on jackstands to do the rear or did you use ramps? I know it would be pretty difficult to get a car up on ramps in reverse but it can be done. Since I know another member said they did the front on ramps I ust wondered if you could do the rear on ramps as well That's the main reason why I'm considering having it professionally installed. I don't have ramps or a lift, or a torque wrench for that matter. The Auto place that would do it is about a 1 min drive from my work. I could drop it off on my lunch and pick it up right after work.....piece of cake. I doubt it will take them more than 2 hours, and their labor rate is $60 per hr, pretty standard really. So far, I've done all the work myself on my legacy, but in this case it's kinda different because I don't have a lift. ♪Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery; None but ourselves can free our minds.♫ -Bob Marley, Redemption Song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedeck Posted September 28, 2005 Author Share Posted September 28, 2005 You really won't need a lift to do this...I mean, I used a jack, and lifted one side of the car. Done. Same for the front. Done. Oh well, all I can say, is when it's installed, I am sure that all of you will notice the differences to the setup, vs. stock. It's totally a nice upgrade, and given the driving style that I have, these are very comfortable...and compliant. Even driving over the GWB isn't that much of an issue...as GREAT as those roads are...hehe! Anyway, good luck, no matter which way the install happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickDastardly00 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 I might have another option. I have a friend who is a mechanic who might be able to help me out with this. He has a lift and a torque wrench. We could probably get it done in a couple of hours together. If not, I might still consider using the jack method, it doesn't seem like it would be too bad. Either way, I have to wait until next week, that is when my Sway Bars come in. There was a back order out of Cusco to get them... ♪Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery; None but ourselves can free our minds.♫ -Bob Marley, Redemption Song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportwagon Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 what kind of endlinks is everyone using? also anyone riding on lowered springs? pinks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedeck Posted September 29, 2005 Author Share Posted September 29, 2005 Stock endlinks here. Some have used the cusco ones...others perrin (I have heard those cause clunking issues, with the perrin bars). Not sure whether Whiteline offers them...but I didn't see any need to switch from stock. I have had the bars in for abour 500 miles, or so, and have not had any issues that I have noticed. Don't have any springs/coilovers, etc. May change out, at the end of the stockers' life, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mblock66 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Well I am going to try the reversing onto ramp technique. If I can't clear the exhaust then I am going to jack up both sides and and put the entire rear in the air on jack stands. I can't freakin wait to get my whitelines on. I need to figure out which hole is the "stiffest" setting on the adj bars. Then on they go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedeck Posted September 29, 2005 Author Share Posted September 29, 2005 I think that the middle is the 'neutral' setting. In the correct orientation (i.e. how the bar would go in) the hole behind the middle will be the hardest setting. The hole in front of the middle will be the softer one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickDastardly00 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 what kind of endlinks is everyone using? also anyone riding on lowered springs? pinks? I'm just going to stick with the stock endlinks. I'm still up in the air about springs right now, I really don't want to lower the car at all. I like the stock ride height just fine. But sway bars are a must with the Legacy, after reading this review yesterday, I can't wait to get them on ♪Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery; None but ourselves can free our minds.♫ -Bob Marley, Redemption Song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggert Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Well I am going to try the reversing onto ramp technique. If I can't clear the exhaust then I am going to jack up both sides and and put the entire rear in the air on jack stands. i had no problem reversing the car onto a ramp to install the rear sway bar. dunno where you are in nj, but let me know if you need a hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mblock66 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I live in Whitehouse Station near like Branchburg and Bridgewater. I might hook them up Sunday if they are both here by then. Hopefully they will be. I think mmm def might swing down since he just ordered f/r cuscos and may want to install them himself but usually always pays to have his installs done. I never do haha. I will take 3 hours for a 1 hour job to save the $ and learn. If you are close you are always welcome... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanboy Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 How more oversteer is dialed-in with the F/R Cusco bars? Stock is 21mm/17mm F/R correct? With Cusco being 23mm/21mm F/R, concerned about being a little too tail-happy for street driving. -B -B http://www.standardshift.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedeck Posted November 7, 2005 Author Share Posted November 7, 2005 I haven't noticed much more 'oversteer' per se. If anything, you have to be a little more careful with steering input, but then again, I have a sedan, and looks like you have a wagon. I do feel that things are nice and tight, and the car stays well balanced. Living in NY, this isn't unbearable for me...and I like both bars very much. Rotaries (for you Mass. people) are much nicer, and curves that I used to not feel good about, are now a thing of the past...I like the stable feeling I get, when taking those same turns (every day, on my way to work). But, that's my view, and others may see it differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTBoxer Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 I am curious about Keefe's comment earlier about the swaybars being a preference. I have put larger sway bars on cars in the past and it makes the world of a difference with how the car rotates and makes the car more neutral. Im not trying to say he is wrong, Im just wanting to know if anybody (or him) can elaborate on that. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlander Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 So who's got the best price on Cusco bars? Vir Est Fatum Ut Perficio Concepta Suus Progenies. - Man is destined to fulfill the capacity of his lineage (i.e. Darwinism) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedeck Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 Not sure anymore, but you can check www.rallitek.com. That's what I got mine...and they were 139.00 a piece...but that may have changed since this past summer. Talk to Bernie, or Sean...maybe they could work out a deal with ya. Nice guys to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 I got my stuff from rallitek for $129 each, I think! Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoFanatic Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 +1 (don't forget to add shipping - worth every penny) I got my stuff from rallitek for $129 each, I think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
york Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 hi, inthedeck, is there any significant effect on the ride quality after installing the swaybar? I am sure the handling/cornering ability improves, how about the original comfy ride? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoFanatic Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 The ride is definitely harsher. Let me also say I also have pink springs which was installed a month or two before the sways. At the time I had the pinks, the ride was not all that much harsher than stock but once the swaybars went in, I could tell the difference immediately. Hope this helps. hi, inthedeck, is there any significant effect on the ride quality after installing the swaybar? I am sure the handling/cornering ability improves, how about the original comfy ride? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedeck Posted November 15, 2005 Author Share Posted November 15, 2005 Yes, definately not a 'quiet' ride anymore. If one side hits a bump, you feel it on the other side, as well...a result of the added stiffness of the bars. The rear one by itself is not bad...once you go installing the front, it's a new ballgame...and definately not soft anymore. I like it though, and even living here in the 'burbs of NYC, I can't complain too much...just have to be a bit more cautious than my already cautious self...so as to avoid large bumps/potholes, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melayout Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 MotoFanatic, Harsher all the time(rough asphlat/cement) or just over bumps, potholes? I keed I keeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedeck Posted November 15, 2005 Author Share Posted November 15, 2005 Bumps/Potholes. On normal roads, without ruts/bumps etc. the car is good...even over expansion joints...not too bad. On a nicely paved road...cabin is still nice and quiet...just like it was. Actually, there isn't much more 'noise' per se...just a little more harshness, as per what I can tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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