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The OEM Mount Blanc (MB) Square Cross Bar Kit (SCBK) mounts up very securely. Sorry I don't have any pics but the first order of business is to open them up as far as they'll go (without pulling the threaded rod completely free). There are two things that need to be set before you can do this properly and you do them both OFF the car: 1. Slide the MB towers (mounts) into the grooves in the cross bar ends so that the tower "cam" device is up inside the groove, not below it. This is an important step. The cam sets on top of the tower and both locks the rack onto the tower and keeps the rack from sliding sideways. 2. Now, cup the tower's side rail clamps (both sides of the tower) in your hand while you back out the tightening rod (turn it counter-clockwise). Hold pressure against the rod so that as it reaches the end of its threads, it will "click" inside the internal clamp. Once you hear or feel it click, then, while holding pressure on the inner side rail clamp and pushing on the threaded rod, tighten the rod one full turn (clockwise) to make sure it remains engaged with the clamp. Do this for all four towers and now you're ready to mount up the OEM rack. Note: You'll know you've done this correctly if you can move the inner side rail clamp back and forth and the rod moves in and out of the tower. If it doesn't do this, then you've backed the rod out too far and disengaged it from the side rail clamp. You'll need to feed the threaded rod back into the rail clamp until you can reengage the rod. You can go in any sequence but I started with the driver's front and did the front cross bar and then moved to the driver's rear and did the rear cross bar. You’ll likely have to “eye-ball the spacing on the tower mounts for the time being. Initially, you’re just trying to get them mounted to the roof side rails. Later, you’ll want to make sure that they’re even and sealed (more on this later). These are the steps that I use to attach the SCBK to the roof side rails: Starting with the left front of the car, pull open your tower mount clamping mechanism and make sure that the rubber insert is fully up inside and engaged across both sides and the top of the side rail clamping mechanism. Set your tower mount, with the inner clamp spread open as far as the threaded rod will let it go, down onto your roof side rail, sliding the tower forward until it is about ¼” – ½” back from the end of the groove on the inside of the side rail. Make sure that your rubber insert remained in place across the side rail and down along the inner side rail clamp. If it buckled or came off the mechanism, just lift up the tower, reseat the rubber insert and set the whole mechanism back on the side rail as before. Keep at it until the whole mechanism, including the rubber insert is firmly established on both sides of the side rail and firmly attached to the clamping mechanism. Now, while holding firm (not hard) downward pressure on the top of the SCBK rail, tighten up the threaded rod (clockwise) until you feel it starting to “snug” down on the side rail. You should simultaneously be able to see the inner clamp tightening down on the inner side rail groove and the outer clamp starting to “squish” the rubber against the outside of the side rail. Don’t tighten it very much because you’ll need to walk over to the other side and attach your opposite side tower mount. Repeat the same steps for the opposite side, as well as the other two mounts to the rear. The only difference on the rear is that you’ll want to slide the rear towers aft (back) until they are a ¼” – ½” from the end in the inner side rail groove. There is ~2” of narrowing between the front of the side rail and the rear of the side rail. This means that your rear cross bar will look longer than the front. That’s not really the case; just that the towers set in further on the roof and that makes the cross bar “protrude” further than the front bar. Once you get all four corners mounted up, then go to each corner and tighten the threaded rod clockwise until you can’t turn it anymore, then turn it one more ½ - 1 full turn while holding downward pressure on the top of the bar. You may have to turn the rod back and forth just a bit to make sure it seats in its locked position, just remember not to back it off any more than you need to, to ensure that it lines up with the lock seat. Lock your tightening rod with the supplied “key.”Now that you’ve succeeded in attaching your OEM MB SCBK to your car, you’ll want to take measurements for both your front and rear bars so that you can center up the cross bars on the front and rear mounts. Also, there are four pieces of measure-marked plastic strips that come with your kit. These you’ll need to cut to fit in the slot in your cross bars on both the inside and the outside of your tower mounts. The reason you need to fit into the slot is that otherwise the airflow over the open slot would drive you to distraction; it makes so much noise without them. Don’t worry that you don’t fit them perfectly. I believe I allowed ¼” extra on each side of the tower mount to make sure that it snugged-up under the mount. You can also dab on some silicon sealer if you end up with a big gap for some reason. Anyway – I’ll try to take pics to augment the how-to instructions but hopefully, this will get you mounted up securely and ready for the next big adventure. SBT

We've created a Car for Sale sub-forum, which is only for vehicles which are not for profit. If you want to make a profit selling vehicles please find another venue to market your vehicles. READ EVERYTHING BELOW - ALL THE WAY THROUGH This document provides the site's policy on Eligibility, Documentation, and Listing Requirements, as well as Post-Sale Information. It also provides the template to use for setting up a Car for Sale Thread and closing it out Specifically note that all photos required by these rules must be "loaded" to the site's server A how-to walk-through, for loading required photos to the Site's server, are found here Linked or off-site hosted photos are not permitted in the Member Marketplace and will be removed where found ^ Just one of the specific details you'll want to make sure you read and understand before posting you FS thread. COPY AND PASTE THIS TITLE FORMAT AND TEMPLATE INTO YOUR FIRST POST FS - LOCATION: (STATE/LOCATION) - VEHICLE, YEAR, MAKE, MODEL Year, Make and Model: Color: Miles: Transmission: Title: Lien: Location: (City, State) VIN: (you must insert your VIN here - no exceptions) Seller's email address: (insert your email address here) Asking Price: See well-documented example at the bottom of this post. ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS - MEMBER-SELLERS ONLY, NO EXCEPTIONS: This sub-forum is for member-sellers only If you have a vehicle for sale, list it in this forum. No vendors or spammers! If you don't own it, don't list it. No selling items for your friends, colleagues, co-workers. They can register and sell their own items. Post or threads from non-eligible members will be removed. Repeated violations will result in time off the site and could ultimately result in a ban from the site. Please report if you see anyone violating this rule.. DOCUMENTATION REQUIREMENTS - NO EXCEPTIONS: A. Location of item must be listed in your title. Please post the state or province, country, etc where your vehicle is located. B. Vehicle Identification Number must be listed in your posting. Please list your vehicle's VIN so it's available for checking against registry reporting systems, i.e., CarFax, AutoCheck, etc. Listing false or fabricated VINs for your vehicle is grounds for banning from the site for fraudulent activity.[/font C. Picture/s of the listed item must be loaded to this site within 24-hours of thread posting. Within 24-hours of posting your thread, you must upload actual pictures of the vehicle you are selling in the current, sellable condition to your for sale thread. These pictures must be loaded to LegacyGT.com. As a minimum, pictures must include Exterior and Interior shots that show the actual condition of the vehicle. Any external damage noted, or material condition changes, must be documented with photos. Use the New Reply, Manage Attachments, Browse, Open, Upload process to upload the pictures. Once the ready-for-sale-condition photos are loaded to this site, you may also provide a link to pictures to your vehicle for sale on eBay, or another FS location, provided you have pictures loaded on the site. Links to photo hosting site photos, URLs to "like" vehicles, or a link to another FS thread, I.e., Craigslist advert, in lieu of the 24-hour posting requirement will result in the thread being closed. Misrepresentation of an item is unacceptable and offenders may be permanently banned. D. Post a reasonable price. We are not eBay, nor an auction site, so "make an offer" is not acceptable. Reasonable price means that you have done some research and identified a fair price-point that will actually sell. Requesting "offers" without a reasonable starting point is essentially the same as requesting members to "bid" on your item(s). Listing intentional over-inflated pricing is also NOT allowed and will be subject to closure and/or infractions. LISTING REQUIREMENTS - NO EXCEPTIONS Retain all original post information - don't delete anything. Member-sellers are required to retain all original post materials, e.g., listing information, photos, price(s), etc., if/when the vehicle is no longer available for sale. This "No Editing Out" of for-sale information policy protects both the buyer and seller and gives other members a price-point to use in establishing the potential market value of their vehicle(s). Post vehicles that are ready to sell. Otherwise, please make sure you let potential buyers know when the vehicle will be available. POST SALE INFORMATION Using PayPal. Never use PayPal's "gift" feature to purchase a vehicle on the site. If the only way a seller will "sell" is if the buyer acquiesces and uses the Gift choice, then, this may very well be a scam and buyers are warned. If you use PayPal's Gift feature, and the seller receives the funds, from PayPal's perspective, then you the buyer truly intended this as a "Gift" and PayPal will not attempt to collect from the seller no matter how much you protest. A gift is a gift. However, if you choose to use PayPal's other options to purchase a vehicle, you have a limit of 45 days from the original date of purchase during which you may lodge a dispute and petition for a refund. 60 days from the original date of purchase if paid by a Visa or MasterCard with your bank Shipping/Handling may be part of the sale. Once a vehicle is sold, the sale is not over. Making sure the item is delivered (or shipped properly and arrives to the intended buyer) is the responsibility of the seller unless other agreements have been reached. Disputes must be handled privately. If there is a problem or issue, you must first work it out amongst yourselves via PM, email or other communication methods. Do not post in the open forums until you have contacted the OP to first attempt to resolve the issue. Only report poor sales IF you have no success in coming to an agreement. Poor Seller / Buyer Note. Any member who is a poor seller/buyer and is unwilling to resolve any issues will be placed on a time out or banned depending on the severity of the offense. This will not be a unilateral decision, but will be based on an assessment of the situation by the moderators. Use i-Trader. i-Trader enables other members to review transactions between a potential seller and other members and then determine if they want to do business with that seller. For those members who have had a good experience, then post a POSITIVE rating If there was an issue and it was resolved, please post a POSITIVE (because it was resolved) or a NEUTRAL rating If you have a bad experience with a member, and are unable to resolve the issue, then post a NEGATIVE rating and a short note describing the issue(s). In all cases, remember that you need to work it out, do not just immediately post a negative rating. Remember, the moderators are only able to police what we see and we cannot see everything. If you see a violation, please report the thread or send a PM to any of us. And more than anything, BUY OR SELL AT YOUR OWN RISK! HOW TO SET UP A CAR FOR SALE THREAD: USE THIS EXAMPLE: To create a Car For Sale listing, use the pull-down menu to choose whether the vehicle is for sale or for trade and it's location, and what it is you're offering. Use this example: In pull-down menu choose: FS - Location: FS/FT - Location: Then add the rest of your title information. You title will look like this: FS - Location: (MD) - Unmodified 2005 Legacy GT Limited Sedan Then create the thread itself. Use this example (using member DavidPHume's excellent example): Year, Make and Model: 2005 Subaru Legacy GT Limited Sedan Color: Satin White Pearl Miles: 34,245 Transmission: 5 Speed Manual Title: Clear - no accidents Lien: No liens Location: Duluth, Minnesota VIN: (you must insert your VIN here) Seller's email address: (insert your email address here) Asking Price: $16,800 FIRM Background Information For sale is my 5 speed manual 2005 Subaru Legacy GT Limited with 32,xxx miles. The car is Satin White Pearl in color with black leather interior. I am the second owner and purchased the car from a friend's mother (she is in her early 50's). She purchased the car new from Miller Hill Subaru and had ALL of the required/optional maintenance performed at the dealership, including the 30,000 mile maintenance. It goes without saying that this car has been stock its entire life and not driven hard. It has a clean title and has no accidents, etc. to report. I believe the car has every option that was available at the time of purchase: STi brake, gas, and clutch peddles Momo shift knob with factory short throw shifter Auto-dimming mirror with compass Locking lug nuts Rear spoiler (I wish it didn't have this option http://mnsubaru.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif) I'm posting this up mainly as a feeler. I have an itch for a BMW/Audi so I may pursue that if I get what I want for this car. I'm not even dead set on letting it go, but I have a problem with keeping cars for very long (ask my friends). I am a perfectionist, so I will point out all of the things that I see "wrong with it". These are all things that are expected for a car made in 2005. On the driver's side back door, there is a small dent near the window. This dent can easily be taken out via PDR and is not noticeable unless you're looking at it correctly. Secondly, the bottom part of the front bumper is scratched slightly which reveals the plastic. This is only noticeable if you're level with the bottom of the bumper or lower and is roughly 2" long. The passenger side mirror has a .5" scrape on it which was touched up with the factory touch up kit. Continuing around to the back side of the car, the bottom side of the bumper on the passenger side has some weird scoring in it. I have absolutely no idea where this is from, but I will do my best to show it in the pictures. The tires are likely original and have a season or two left. I've had no traction issues even in the snowy Duluth winters. The previous owner, and myself, never drove the car on the highway so there are no rock chips, etc. that are normally associated with that. As for the interior... well... it looks brand new. There is some VERY minor scratching around the shift boot (high-traffic area). But it otherwise looks good as new. The carpets have no stains, the leather is perfect and not faded or torn. The back seat looks unused. I am very tedious about my cars and lately it's been getting washed 3 times a week inside and out. The car currently has a lien on it, but I do have the title. Once the lien is paid off, my bank will send you/your bank the lien release. I prefer cashier's check/wire transfer/cash for payment (in that order). My father has a dealer license and can transfer the title for you at his place of business. Also, I understand what the car books at through the various services, but more importantly I know the Legacy GT market (I had a black LGT limited a year or so ago). As Legacies go, the color combo and mileage of this is quite desirable (I love white cars!). Also, keep in mind when reading this that Subarus in Minnesota have a tendency to sell for more than book value (I have sold 3 and have gotten at least book, if not more, for all of them). As such, please do not chastise me for this. I am willing to work with you on the price, but only to a degree. I'm not taking $15k for it, so don't even ask. I like the car an have absolutely no trouble keeping it. Also, I am not interested in trades unless it is a very specific BMW/Audi. Thank you for reading. I hope this car goes to a fantastic new home. CLOSING-OUT YOUR SALE: USE THIS PROCESS Browsing through sometimes pages of a member's car for sale thread thread, where many members have asked whether the item is sold or not, is both frustrating and burns up bandwidth which is expensive. Once your car is sold, make your last "New Reply" thread post that the Car Sold to Member XXXXXXX for $111111 amount. Keep all of your OP intact and edit-in a banner across the top of your OP to read: Car is SOLD. Please notify a moderator and we will close the thread so it will not clog up the forum For any issues, problems, questions or help. Please PM me or notify a moderator and we will be happy to assist you. Please keep in mind, we cannot watch every thread on the forums so we rely on our members to help out if they see something that isn't right. Thanks for keeping the forums running smoothly! SBT

Our Members' For Sale rules are located here. Please ensure you review them before posting in this sub-forum. Specifically note that all photos required by these rules must be "loaded" to the site's server A how-to walk-through, for loading required photos to the site's server, is found here Linked or off-site hosted photos are not permitted in the Member Marketplace and will be removed where found This Member Classified sub-forum is for members to sell 2005 - 2009 Legacy and Outback parts. Selling parts for profit in this sub-forum is prohibited. If you want to make a profit selling parts, please find another venue (off-the-site) to market your product. THESE ITEMS COMPRISE A FOR SALE THREAD LOCATION AND TITLE To create a For Sale listing, first create a title that indicates, using the pull-down menu, that the item is for sale or for trade and location, and what is contained in the thread. TEXT, DESCRIPTION, AND AMPLIFYING INFORMATION Describe in as much pertinent detail as possible what you're selling, the photos, condition, mileage, age, type, i.e., for manual transmission, payment forms accepted and required notification about posting questions, offers and acceptance in the thread. Note about photos: All photos must be loaded to the site with 24-hours. Use the Manage Attachment process Linked photos are not permitted in the Marketplace and will be removed where found. AVAILABLE ITEMS Use this part of your OP to describe what it is you're selling and the price SOLD ITEMS Use this part of your OP to move your part listing from "Items Available" to "Items Sold". Keep everything intact and mark it (Sold to - Screen Name) USE THIS TEMPLATE TO SET-UP YOUR FOR SALE THREAD ====================================================================== In the pull-down menu select FS - Location or FS/FT - Location Then type your state and what it is you're selling. Your thread title will look like this: FS - Location (MD): AVO BOV and TMIC, Perrin DP, MID-Y and Mufflers I have the following items available for sale. All parts have 15,000 miles on them unless otherwise indicated and are off the car ready for shipment. I accept PayPal (Preferred) or U.S. Postal Money Orders or cash for local sales. All items plus shipping and PayPal 3% fee if paying by PayPal. Only post here if you're interested, including any questions, and make all offers in this thread. I will not respond to questions or offers via PM. PMs will only be used to exchange payment or delivery information. Available Items: AVO BOV - used, 5000 miles. $150 (OBO) AVO CAI w/new filter - used 15000 miles. $400 firm AVO MT-specific catted DP - used 15000 miles $475 firm Sold Items: Perrin Mid-Y and Mufflers - used 15000 miles $575 (Sold to - Screen Name) ================================================== ==================== For any issues, problems, questions or help. Please PM me or notify a moderator and we will be happy to assist you. Please keep in mind, we cannot watch every thread on the forums so we rely on our members to help out if they see something that isn't right. Thanks for keeping the forums running smoothly! SBT

Our Members' For Sale rules are located here. Please ensure you review them before posting in this sub-forum. Specifically note that all photos required by these rules must be "loaded" to the site's server A how-to walk-through, for loading required photos to the site's server, is found here Linked or off-site hosted photos are not permitted in the Member Marketplace and will be removed where found This Member Classified sub-forum is for members to sell 2004 and older Legacy and Outback parts. Selling parts for profit in this sub-forum is prohibited. If you want to make a profit selling parts, please find another venue (off-the-site) to market your product. THESE ITEMS COMPRISE A FOR SALE THREAD LOCATION AND TITLE To create a For Sale listing, use the pull-down menu to show location and that the item(s) is/are for sale or for trade, and what is contained in the thread. TEXT, DESCRIPTION, AND AMPLIFYING INFORMATION Describe in as much pertinent detail as possible what you're selling, the photos, condition, mileage, age, type, i.e., for manual transmission, payment forms accepted and required notification about posting questions, offers and acceptance in the thread. Note about photos: All photos must be loaded to the site with 24-hours. Use the Manage Attachment process Linked photos are not permitted in the Marketplace and will be removed where found. AVAILABLE ITEMS Use this part of your OP to describe what it is you're selling and the price SOLD ITEMS Use this part of your OP to move your part listing from "Items Available" to "Items Sold". Keep everything intact and mark it (Sold to - Screen Name) USE THIS TEMPLATE TO SET-UP YOUR FOR SALE THREAD ====================================================================== Use the pull-down menu to choose: FS - Location or FS/FT - Location Then add what it is you're selling. Your Title will look like this: FS- Location (MD): AVO Intake, Bosal Axle-back, and Perrin Front and Rear Swaybar set I have the following items available for sale. All parts are used, with mileage indicated, and are off the car ready for shipment. I accept PayPal (Preferred) or U.S. Postal Money Orders or cash for local sales. All items plus shipping and PayPal 3% fee if paying by PayPal. Only post here if you're interested, including any questions, and make all offers in this thread. I will not respond to questions or offers via PM. PMs will only be used to exchange payment or delivery information. Available Items: AVO Intake - used, 5000 miles. $150 (OBO) Bosal Axle-back Exhaust - used, 8000 miles. $350 firm Sold Items: Perrin front (23mm fixed) and rear (20-22mm Adjustable) swaybar set w/bushings - used, 10000 miles $375 firm - (SOLD to member) ================================================== ==================== For any issues, problems, questions or help. Please notify a moderator and we will be happy to assist you. Please keep in mind, we cannot watch every thread on the forums so we rely on our members to help out if they see something that isn't right. Thanks for keeping the forums running smoothly. SBT

General Member Classified Forum Non-Car practices and principles: In an effort to streamline the Market Place, we've created a Member Classified sub-forum for all Non-car parts and items. Selling in this sub-forum is only for items which are not for profit. If you want to make a profit selling parts, please find another venue (off-the-site) to market your product. This document provides the site's policy on Eligibility, Documentation, and Listing Requirements, as well as Post-Sale Information. It also provides the template to use for setting up a For Sale Thread and closing it out. For members wishing to part-out an entire vehicle, please follow these Part-Out Guildelines Specifically note that all photos must be "loaded" to the site. How-to walk-through, for loading required photos to the Site's server, are found here Linked or off-site hosted photos are not permitted in the Member Marketplace and will be removed where found 1) ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS - NO EXCEPTIONS: 1. Member sellers ONLY! This sub-forum is for member-sellers only (See item 2. below about member-eligibility to post in this sub-forum) If you have a non-car item for sale, list it in this forum. No vendors or spammers, nor those wishing to sell multiple quantities of the same item. Any threads which violate this requirement will be subject to closure, deletion, and member banned, depending on severity of the offense! Please report if you see anyone violating this rule. 2. Any item for sale with restrictions, or where one member has to commit to a financial obligation through another member (pay to use), will not be sold on LegacyGT.com. This also includes Subaru Bucks. There is too much opportunity for fraud, or loss of purchase when restrictions yield the item(s) non-redeemable. 3. You must have 10 posts (read what constitutes 10 posts below) to sell parts on, or participate in, this Site's 2005-2009 Member Classified sub-forum. To prevent spamming and scamming, we've adopted a 10-post minimum rule, before you may post-up or post-in any For Sale classified on these forums. All ten posts must be outside the Marketplace Forum (and all of its sub-forums), i.e., no posts or questions in a seller or vendor thread, no Want to Buy (WTB) / Want to Trade (WTT) threads, and no For Sale threads. Post or threads from non-eligible members will be removed. Repeated violations will result in time off the site and could ultimately result in a ban from the site. 2) DOCUMENTATION REQUIREMENTS - NO EXCEPTIONS: A. Location of item must be listed in your title. Please post the state or province, country, etc where your item is located. B. Picture/s of the listed item must be loaded to this site within 24-hours of thread posting. Within 24-hours of posting your thread, you must upload actual pictures of the item(s) you are selling in the current, sellable condition to your for sale thread. These pictures must be loaded to LegacyGT.com Use the New Reply, Manage Attachments, Browse, Open, Upload process to upload the pictures. Once the ready-for-sale-condition photos are loaded to this site, you may also provide a link to pictures to your part(s) for sale on eBay, or another FS location, provided you have pictures loaded on the site URLs or a link in lieu of the 24-hour posting requirement will result in the thread being closed Links to other similar items for sale, and picture(s) from the manufacturer's website are not to be used in any LegacyGT.com FS thread Misrepresentation of an item is unacceptable and offenders may be permanently banned C. Post a reasonable price. We are not eBay, nor an auction site, so "make an offer" is not acceptable. Reasonable price means that you have done some research and identified a fair price-point that will actually sell. Requesting "offers" without a reasonable starting point is essentially the same as requesting members to "bid" on your item(s). Listing intentional over-inflated pricing is also NOT allowed and will be subject to closure or infractions. 3) LISTING REQUIREMENTS - NO EXCEPTIONS Retain all original post information - don't delete anything. Member-sellers are required to retain all original post materials, e.g., listing information, photos, price(s), etc., if/when a part is Sold or is no longer available for sale. This "No Editing Out" policy protects both the buyer and seller and gives other members a price-point to use in establishing the potential market value of their part(s). Post parts that are ready to sell. Otherwise, please make sure you let potential buyers know when the part will be available. Keep all transactional information in the thread. All transactions must be kept in the post, including offers for the part(s), and acceptance of the offer by the seller. Use PMs only to exchange payment or pickup/delivery information. Member-buyer(s) and sold price will be identified in the thread. Under Items Sold, the member-buyer who purchased the price and the price at which the item sold, will be listed. See the Set-up Template below for specific guidance. 4) POST-SALE INFORMATION Using PayPal. Never use PayPal's "gift" feature to purchase a anything on the site. If the only way a seller will "sell" is if the buyer acquiesces and uses the Gift choice, then, this may very well be a scam and buyers are warned. If you use PayPal's Gift feature, and the seller receives the funds, from PayPal's perspective, then you the buyer truly intended this as a "Gift" and PayPal will not attempt to collect from the seller no matter how much you protest. A gift is a gift. However, if you choose to use PayPal's other options to purchase a from a seller, you have a limit of 45 days from the original date of purchase during which you may lodge a dispute and petition for a refund. 60 days from the original date of purchase if paid by a Visa or MasterCard with your bank Shipping/Handling may be part of the sale. Once a part is sold, the sale is not over. Making sure the item is delivered (or shipped properly and arrives to the intended buyer) is the responsibility of the seller unless other agreements have been reached. Disputes must be handled privately. If there is a problem or issue, you must first work it out amongst yourselves via PM, email or other communication methods. Do not post in the open forums until you have contacted the OP to first attempt to resolve the issue. Only report poor sales IF you have no success in coming to an agreement. Poor Seller / Buyer Note. Any member who is a poor seller/buyer and is unwilling to resolve any issues will be placed on a time out or banned depending on the severity of the offense. This will not be a unilateral decision, but will be based on an assessment of the situation by the moderators. Use i-Trader. i-Trader enables other members to review transactions between a potential seller and other members and then determine if they want to do business with that seller. For those members who have had a good experience, then post a POSITIVE rating If there was an issue and it was resolved, please post a POSITIVE (because it was resolved) or a NEUTRAL rating If you have a bad experience with a member, and are unable to resolve the issue, then post a NEGATIVE rating and a short note describing the issue(s). In all cases, remember that you need to work it out, do not just immediately post a negative rating. Remember, the moderators are only able to police what we see and we cannot see everything. If you see a violation, please report the thread or send a PM to any of us. And more than anything, BUY OR SELL AT YOUR OWN RISK! 5) HOW TO SET-UP A FOR SALE THREAD: USE THIS TEMPLATE A For Sale thread has four parts: Title Text, description, pictures, and amplifying information Available Items Sold Items TITLE To create a For Sale listing, first create a title that indicates that the item is for sale, where the item is located and what is contained in the thread. TEXT, DESCRIPTION, AND AMPLIFYING INFORMATION Describe in as much pertinent detail as possible what you're selling, the pictures, condition, age, type, payment forms accepted and required notification about posting questions, offers and acceptance in the thread. AVAILABLE ITEMS Use this part of your OP to describe what it is you're selling and the price SOLD ITEMS Use this part of your OP to move your part listing from "Items Available" to "Items Sold". Keep everything intact and mark it (Sold to - Screen Name) The For Sale thread will look like this: ================================================== ==================== FS (MD): Kenwood KL-777A 6-speaker system; Samsung 40" 1080p HDMI LED HDTV. I have the following items available for sale. These items are ready for shipment, but I prefer local pickup. I accept PayPal (Preferred) or U.S. Postal Money Orders or cash for local sales. All items plus shipping and PayPal 3% fee if paying by PayPal. Only post here if you're interested, including any questions, and make all offers in this thread. I will not respond to questions or offers via PM. PMs will only be used to exchange payment or delivery information. Available Items: Samsung 40" 1080p, HDMI, LED HDTV, BNIB, Model# UN40D6000SFXZA, $650 firm Sold Items: Kenwood KL-777A, 6-Speaker, 4-way speaker system (Sold to - Screen Name) ================================================== ==================== 6) CLOSING-OUT YOUR SALE: USE THIS PROCESS Browsing through sometimes pages of a member's for sale thread, where many members have asked whether the item is sold or not, is both frustrating and burns up bandwidth which is expensive. Once your part is sold, make your last "New Reply" thread post that: The (Part) is SOLD, or in the case of multiple items for sale: All items are SOLD Keep all of your OP intact and edit-in a banner across the top of your OP to read: SOLD Please notify a moderator and we will close the thread so it will not clog up the forum For any issues, problems, questions or help. Please PM me or notify a moderator and we will be happy to assist you. Please keep in mind, we cannot watch every thread on the forums so we rely on our members to help out if they see something that isn't right. Thanks for keeping the forums running smoothly! SBT

Our Members' For Sale rules are located here. Please ensure you review them before posting in this sub-forum. Specifically note that all photos required by these rules must be "loaded" to the site's server. How-to walk-through, for loading required photos to the site's server, is found here Linked or off-site hosted photos are not permitted in the Member Marketplace and will be removed where found This specific sticky is for those members who are Selling Wheels and/or Tires, or Wheel/Tire-related items and does not apply to single items related to other vehicle parts. Selling parts for profit in this sub-forum is prohibited. If you want to make a profit selling parts, please find another venue (off-the-site) to market your product. THESE ITEMS COMPRISE A FOR SALE THREAD LOCATION AND TITLE To create a For Sale listing, use the pull-down menu to identify that your item(s) is/are for sale or for trade and location, and what is contained in the thread. TEXT, DESCRIPTION, AND AMPLIFYING INFORMATION Describe in as much pertinent detail as possible what you're selling, the photos, condition, mileage, age, type, i.e., for manual transmission, payment forms accepted and required notification about posting questions, offers and acceptance in the thread. Note about photos: All photos must be loaded to the site with 24-hours. Use the Manage Attachment process Linked photos are not permitted in the Marketplace and will be removed where found. AVAILABLE ITEMS Use this part of your post to describe what it is you're selling and the price SOLD ITEMS Use this part of your post to move your part listing from "Items Available" to "Items Sold". Keep everything intact and mark it (Sold to - Screen Name) USE THIS TEMPLATE TO SET-UP YOUR FOR SALE THREAD ================================================== ==================== In the Pull-down menu select: FS - Location: or FS/FT Location: Then add what is for sale. Your thread title will look like this: FS - Location: (SD) - VOLK TE-37 WHEELS (5), 17 X 8, BRIDGESTONE RE050 (5), 2008 OEM TPMS (5) I have the following items available for sale. The wheels have less than 300 miles on them, the remaining items are brand new, never installed, and are ready for shipment. I accept PayPal (Preferred) or U.S. Postal Money Orders or cash for local sales. All items plus shipping and PayPal 3% fee if paying by PayPal. Only post here if you're interested, including any questions, and make all offers in this thread. I will not respond to questions or offers via PM. PMs will only be used to exchange payment or delivery information. Available Items: Five (5) Immaculate Bronze VOLK TE-37 Forged 1-PC wheels. JWL+R Spec 2, Air Valves Included, 17x8.0 / 5x100 / +44 Offset, includes center caps $4300.00 (FIRM) Five (5) Bridgestone RE050 High Performance Summer Tires 245x40/17 Brand New Never Mounted $1200.00 (FIRM) Sold Items: Five (5) Subaru OEM 2008 Legacy TMPS Sensors BNIB $275.00 (Sold to - Screen Name) ================================================== ==================== For any issues, problems, questions or help. Please PM me or notify a moderator and we will be happy to assist you. Please keep in mind, we cannot watch every thread on the forums so we rely on our members to help out if they see something that isn't right. Thanks for keeping the forums running smoothly! SBT

Our Members' For Sale rules are located here. Please ensure you review them before posting in this sub-forum. Specifically note that all photos required by these rules must be "loaded" to the site's server A how-to walk-through, for loading required photos to the site's server, is found here Linked or off-site hosted photos are not permitted in the Member Marketplace and will be removed where found This Member Classified sub-forum is for members to sell 2010+ Legacy and Outback parts. Selling parts for profit in this sub-forum is prohibited. If you want to make a profit selling parts, please find another venue (off-the-site) to market your product. THESE ITEMS COMPRISE A FOR SALE THREAD: LOCATION AND TITLE To create a For Sale listing, first create a title that indicates, using the pull down menu, that the item is for sale or for trade and location, and what is contained in the thread. TEXT, DESCRIPTION, AND AMPLIFYING INFORMATION Describe in as much pertinent detail as possible what you're selling, the photos, condition, mileage, age, type, i.e., for manual transmission, payment forms accepted and required notification about posting questions, offers and acceptance in the thread. Note about photos: All photos must be loaded to the site with 24-hours. Use the Manage Attachment process Linked photos are not permitted in the Marketplace and will be removed where found. AVAILABLE ITEMS Use this part of your OP to describe what it is you're selling and the price SOLD ITEMS Use this part of your OP to move your part listing from "Items Available" to "Items Sold". Keep everything intact and mark it (Sold to - Screen Name) USE THIS TEMPLATE TO SET-UP YOUR FOR SALE THREAD ====================================================================== Using the pull-down menu select FS - Location or FS/FT - Location Then type your state and what it is you're selling. Your thread title will look like this: FS - Location (MD): AVO BOV and TMIC, Perrin DP, MID-Y and Mufflers I have the following items available for sale. All parts have 15,000 miles on them unless otherwise indicated and are off the car ready for shipment. I accept PayPal (Preferred) or U.S. Postal Money Orders or cash for local sales. All items plus shipping and PayPal 3% fee if paying by PayPal. Only post here if you're interested, including any questions, and make all offers in this thread. I will not respond to questions or offers via PM. PMs will only be used to exchange payment or delivery information. Available Items: AVO BOV - used, 5000 miles. $150 (OBO) AVO CAI w/new filter - used 15000 miles. $400 firm AVO 2010+ specific catted DP - used 15000 miles $475 firm Sold Items: Perrin Mid-Y and Mufflers - used 15000 miles $575 (Sold to - Screen Name) ================================================== ==================== For any issues, problems, questions or help. Please PM me or notify a moderator and we will be happy to assist you. Please keep in mind, we cannot watch every thread on the forums so we rely on our members to help out if they see something that isn't right. Thanks for keeping the forums running smoothly! SBT

Not to grap on sjg's question but I'm at a cross-roads too. I ordered the Mont Blanc square cross-bar kit for my LGT Wagon. Now that I've attached the Mont Blanc rack to the car, and taken it to REI and mounted up the Yakima Platinum Pro 16 and the Thule Evolution 1600 roof boxes, I'm not convinced that the Mont Blanc cross-bars/mounts have the stamina to keep this box attached "in flight". If I go with a Yakima rack setup, I believe that the factory "rail" with the Yakima EZ-Rider Tower and 48" Yakima round cross-bars will do the trick. Question: Does the EZ-Rider mount up to the existing roof rail or does it somehow mount up to the side rail of the car (which is not what I'm looking for)? If it mounts up to factory roof rail, how much better "grip" does the EZ Rider provide versus that of the Mont Blanc setup? If I go Thule then I believe the 440 - Subaru Specialty Carrier with Thule 48" square cross bars will fit the bill. It appears that the 440s do fit the factory roof rail so again the question applies, how much stress can these mounts take? So, anyone with experience with the Subaru racks and heavy wind resistant items attached to it any length of time, say a road trip of 4-500 miles. Plan to do some camping and the last thing I want is to have the box (and contents) sitting somewhere back along the road, or worse yet planted in windshield/interior of the vehicle behind me... Same would apply to my yak when the time comes to top it and haul it. And sjg - thanks for letting me jump in here with some parallel questions. SBT

TYVM Opie.

It actually sounds like a tapping/knocking sound like you'd get from your valve train. I was convinced that I had a bad valve lifter only to find out it was the tensioner. If you have a stethescope (especially with a long steel extender to it), just touch it down on the block area just to the right of the alternator and about a half inch or so behind the timing belt cover. You're listening for a knocking/ticking sound emanating from the front of the engine. It's caused by failure of the hydraulic function in the timing belt tensioner and it clicks as the timing belt forces it in and out of its housing. It's part number 4 in the diagram below and you can see that it mounts up directly to the engine block so it can make a bunch of noise from that location. SBT

See item 5 in the first post...http://legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=95329&postcount=1 Here's a Google Search on some of the winrar apps that will open the pixs... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=winrar&spell=1 Good luck and enjoy the pix. SBT

That's actually a good analogy... but in some of the more harsh examples though, it's more like slamming the brakes shut and open in quick succession while building boost so it's reaaaaallllly obvious. SBT

If you don't hear something back in the affirmative. then get on the horn to 800-Subaru3 and open a case on your issue. Then, ask them what they're doing about it? By now, the ECU reflash ought to be corporate "memory" within the Subaru Customer Service help desk. SBT

ROBMAN, Thanks! I'll check it out as soon as I can this weekend. Incidently, this crosses to: http://www.subaruparts.com/cart/?pn=22611AJ17C

If you can, let us know what the Part Number is for the new ECU. SBT

I've posted up my initial experiences and am waiting until I get to the 1000 mile mark on the reflash to post up any additional responses. For those who are posting, please keep the thread focused on your experience with the stuttering "fix". If you need a sidebar to discuss something else, please take it to PM or start another thread. SBT

ROBMAN - Can you please give us the Part Number from your "exchanged" ECU. Would like to compare it with the one in mine. My car feels so much different from what others are reporting after reflash, that I'm wondering if SOA isn't sending out new/newer ECU's. TIA SBT

starlabs - that's my question exactly. Now that you've said it so much more articulately, anyone have any ideas on which "version" would actually get retained/saved as the "stock" map? Blaze - that functionality would be perfect if it were part of the package. SBT

Just saw your question....sorry my bad. My wagon was built in 12/04 and I took delivery in 01/05. SBT

I think this was asked previously but cannot find the response... If the AP overwrites "maps" in the ECU, does it also pull out and store the ECU's stock map internal to itself in non-volitile memory? What happens if SOA reflashes the ECU and then you re-marry/apply your AP maps? When you go back to stock, do you go back to the original "stock" or to the now "SOA reflashed stock"? I'm concerned that the AP has the old stock maps in it and if you were to set an SOA reflashed ECU back to stock, you'd overwrite it with the original pre-SOA reflash map. Does any of this make sense? SBT

Just got back from a 100 mile trip out into the mountains, temp ranges (at 6:30-8:00 PM) 78 F at the coast to 92 F in the mountains. Humidity - HIGH. As the ECU relearns, it has remained smooth. Initial mileage wasn't that great but on this loop I averaged about 23 mpg up to 7500 feet cruising at 80 on the freeway and about 65 mph overall, much under load. There does seem to be some more noticeable wastegate action as though the WG was opening and closing rapidly but that was only if I accidently "lugged" the engine in higher gearing at lower RPM and then shifted down to regain power and acceleration. On/off throttle, the engine was entirely smooth, running through the twisties in 2,3,4,5th gear. I could sense more than know that the IC was getting enough cool air but the power delivery was still smooth. I particularly added throttle several times under load in 5th gear at about 2500 rpm to see if it would cause a reaction but, again, the car just accelerated without any hesitation or stammering. I'm optimistic at this point that SOA has dialed out at least 95% of any previous problems. Time will tell and I'll keep you all advised on the progress. SBT

Not another problem. Just that when you get your ECU reflashed, the security system, which is integrated into the ECU, no longer recognizes your remote fobs. So, just take them with you when get your ECU reflashed and the dealer will reprogram the system for you. Or, you can do it yourself, following the instructions in the manual. The dealer asked me to bring my extra fob when I came to pick up the car, so they could program both at the same time. Thought it was cool of them to think of that and call me. Incidently, went for an 80 mile run up the coast for dinner tonight and in and out of traffic the car was smoooooth. My wife even commented on how smooth it felt and if she notices something like that, it is definiitely something out of the ordinary. I just couldn't get over how much oomph the car had, even at lower rpms in 5th. Nary a hiccup the whole drive SBT

Picked up mine today from the reflash and now all I notice is slight turbo lag off-boost. No stutter, stammer, or bucking. I put it into all of the profiles that used to ellicit the condition in the past, e.g., 2500 rpm and off accelerator and then back on the accelerator in almost any gear but 1st at about 50% throttle position - nothing - just smooth acceleration. (no stutter), cruising along at 3,000 rpm, drop off the accelerator to about 2200-2500 rpm and give it about 50% throttle - still smooth acceleration (just a hint of turbo lag) but definitely no stammer, 2nd gear rolling along at low rpm and add about 50% throttle, moves off with no hint of hesitation of bucking Up a grade in 4th at 3000 rpm, adding in throttle to accelerate, just unwinds smoothly and unbelievably fast. Temps were in the 85 - 95 F range, plenty of heat soak from sitting in traffic and yet still no sign of the previous bedevilment. Honestly, the car was sitting in heavy, hot traffic with the AC on the whole time so I'm fairly certain it was operating normally through the entire range. Drivetrain just feels and acts smoother all the way around. Car is definitely faster, like "holy afterburner Batman, this thing is waaaay fast"... much faster than I ever noticed before and this is at 11,000 miles. Someone pinch me quick so I can make sure I'm really not sleeping, the car feels that different. I can't imagine what this car would be like with a Stage 1 or State 2 setup. Don't know if anything will change as the ECU re-learns or whether they pulled what they needed out of my previous tables or not and just loaded those pieces back in. I hope this fixes it. BTW - for those who are getting this done, take your extra remote fob along and they'll reprogram it for you too. HTH SBT

I definitely noticed it almost immediately but thought I'd wait until my break-in mileage was done. I was driving and thinking what the heck is this, it was that sudden and intense. I had heard that this was occuring and asked others if they had similar experiences at what throttle/gear settings and it was totally consistent with what I had experienced. I expected it to go away with ECU learning and mileage buildup but at 10K, I'm ready for SOA to fix this, I'm that frustrated with it. SBT

Believe this is for the Forester and "VINs affected" means anything preceeding that number are effected. Vehicle VINs starting with 5*200001 and newer have the "fix", so hypothetically, a vehicle with VIN 5*200000 or older would be affected by this TSB. SBT