Jerboa113 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 haha, you and me both, but I will eventually suck it up and do it anyway.. whats the alternative for people putting something in the cubby? dropping the info center behind the dash and forgetting you have it? if 7 out of 9 are being used then that should be fine.. but if it almost reaches you could always do something ghetto, grab some shrink wrap and solder an extra couple of inches on all the wires, sure it will most likjley void the warranty.. but it will work I'm anxious to see someone else try it however, as I am not at this stage of my project yet. "The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noam Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Assuming the picture of the cable end starts with pin 1 in the lower left corner, the diagram which Spinjokey posted matches the cable extender. scans007 -> I ordered one of these kits, so you can see it when it gets here if you want to wait to make a decision. I may even have my flush mount LCD screen done by then too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfxdave99 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Apex, two things 1. Just to confirm because of the way the vents are lop-sided that the double din unit is only for RHD models 2. I really really really really really want to try hooking up the JDM single zone control with the space for the dual din in my USDM car to see if it works, if it doesnt providing I dont damage the unit would it be possible to return it? (I would be fine with some sort of restocking fee etc vs spending 300+ bones on something that im not sure will work) Thanks for all the updates and cool parts btw. If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfxdave99 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 (poke poke) apex i know you're on If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apexjapan Posted August 31, 2005 Author Share Posted August 31, 2005 Ha! Just because I wanted to post some pictures in the members photos... I've got to check on that - on AVO stuff we usually could work something out, but the Subaru OEM stuff is sometimes difficult. I do really want to check out the double-din setup - the vents are slightly lopsided (hard to tell), but if it still fit, maybe it would be ok... Cheers, Paul Hansen http://www.avoturboworld.com | http://www.sevenphotos.com | http://www.scoobymag.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfxdave99 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Ha! Just because I wanted to post some pictures in the members photos... I've got to check on that - on AVO stuff we usually could work something out, but the Subaru OEM stuff is sometimes difficult. I do really want to check out the double-din setup - the vents are slightly lopsided (hard to tell), but if it still fit, maybe it would be ok... Cheers, Paul Hansen www.avoturboworld.com | www.sevenphotos.com | www.scoobymag.com Thanks.. as i said even if I had to take a $50-100 hit it didnt work sending it back it would still be 100x better then paying $350 for something i might not be able to use But of coure its gonna work right? If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinjockey Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Good catch Sebberry, I figured the clock page would have all the pinouts... But I guess I was wrong! Pins 3 and 4 ultimately end up at the Airbag control unit. So you might need to either add 2 more pins or since the relocation ends up next to the airbag control module splice out from there. Regardless you probably still need to wire them in otherwise the airbag light goes on. There's a SMALL chance you might be able wire a resistor on there to fake the circuit. So the cable probably won't work as is, however at least you'll get the right connectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukonart Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Thanks.. as i said even if I had to take a $50-100 hit it didnt work sending it back it would still be 100x better then paying $350 for something i might not be able to use But of coure its gonna work right? Has anyone thought of taking diagonal measurements of the LHD and RHD units to compare? I'd think of that as being a sure-fire way to see if they're the same or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfxdave99 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Has anyone thought of taking diagonal measurements of the LHD and RHD units to compare? I'd think of that as being a sure-fire way to see if they're the same or not. I'm not talking about the double din thing, if i wanted to that i would just haxor up my stock cubby unit.. I'm talking about this http://www.avoturboworld.com/avoshop/product_info.php?cPath=1_58_3_187&products_id=265 http://www.avoturboworld.com/avoshop/images/150_leg_2din.jpg If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukonart Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Ahhhhhh. Even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subiewtb Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 If it could use dual zones. I would be definitely be interested. I just hate to have two radios in the car. The cubby hole could be better use for guages! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboa113 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 exactly why I'm not doing a cubby radio, 2 radios, although functional, just doesn't look right to me.. you know like when those old box TVs died, people would put smaller TVs on top until they got the time to throw out the old curtis mathis and buy a proper TV cabinet? its kinda like that to me heh "The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erickson00 Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 I'm not talking about the double din thing, if i wanted to that i would just haxor up my stock cubby unit.. I'm talking about this http://www.avoturboworld.com/avoshop/product_info.php?cPath=1_58_3_187&products_id=265 http://www.avoturboworld.com/avoshop/images/150_leg_2din.jpg I still don't understand why Subaru doesn't make one of these for USDM vehicles with dual climate control. It wouldn't cost much, and these would sell easily. I find this frustrating... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfxdave99 Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 I still don't understand why Subaru doesn't make one of these for USDM vehicles with dual climate control. It wouldn't cost much, and these would sell easily. I find this frustrating... They would have to engineer it, the whole reason we have the problem is that the boards are integrated, so in order to make one for US cars they would basically have to rengineer a a/c control. They have come up with solutions for G35's and Hondas converting dual zone to single zone with harnesses etc.. Once i hear back from Paul if i can at least get some kind of refund if it doesnt work and i dont blow up the unit I'll order it. If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Paul, I wonder if you could take a look at this: http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?p=283831#post283831 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John M Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Indusry standard is that electrical parts are non-returnable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apexjapan Posted September 4, 2005 Author Share Posted September 4, 2005 Leonardo, I'll try and take a look at it when I am at the office tomorrow. Scratch that, it's in the catalogue I have here. They have "amber" and "brown" door trim, console trim, shift area trim, vent trim, door grab handle trim, door opener handle trim, and console trim. Door handle, grab handle, vents are about $140-150 shipped (estimated) per "set" of two. Cheers, Paul Hansen http://www.avoturboworld.com | http://www.sevenphotos.com | http://www.scoobymag.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 replied over there as to keep this thread on topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterdish Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 only thing about AVO's website is the fact there are no larger pictures when you click the enlarge picture button. Can you guys start useing high res pictures? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apexjapan Posted September 6, 2005 Author Share Posted September 6, 2005 I have started using higher-rez pictures, finally, but the problem is that they are on the newer items only. I've got about 200 older pictures that I need to update... Cheers, Paul Hansen http://www.avoturboworld.com | http://www.sevenphotos.com | http://www.scoobymag.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboa113 Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 ok guys, to go back to something discussed a few pages ago, I finally had time to get my cubby out and snap some pics of it. as you can see, and as discussed by someone else here, the usdm info. center harness has 9 pins in use, the one not in use is on the top row 1 over from the right in this pic, dont know the pin # cos I was in a bit of a hurry sorry. "The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erickson00 Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 They would have to engineer it, the whole reason we have the problem is that the boards are integrated, so in order to make one for US cars they would basically have to rengineer a a/c control. They have come up with solutions for G35's and Hondas converting dual zone to single zone with harnesses etc.. Once i hear back from Paul if i can at least get some kind of refund if it doesnt work and i dont blow up the unit I'll order it. Why can't they just slap the same curcuit board that exists right now on a new faceplate, but leave the stereo out? The AC section could be exactly the way it is now, with the stereo missing. I don't understand what is difficult about that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scans007 Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Why can't they just slap the same curcuit board that exists right now on a new faceplate, but leave the stereo out? The AC section could be exactly the way it is now, with the stereo missing. I don't understand what is difficult about that... Cuz something in the stereo runs all the controls....If you take it out the stereo, you can't use anything............you can do that you just need to relocate the stereo and rewire everything, basically make a new circuit board...not an easy task. I did it in my mazda6.......took FOREVER.....ended up not be'n worth it..... hence my cubby install Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erickson00 Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Cuz something in the stereo runs all the controls....If you take it out the stereo, you can't use anything............you can do that you just need to relocate the stereo and rewire everything, basically make a new circuit board...not an easy task. I did it in my mazda6.......took FOREVER.....ended up not be'n worth it..... hence my cubby install How unfortunate! I think it was a major oversight to assume buyers would be content with the factory stereo. I've never owned a vehicle that prevented me from easily upgrading the sound system. The LOC setup I have sounds like garbage - I wasn't anticipating having to buy a new Head Unit in addition to everything else I've bought. OK, enough ranting from me. I should worry more about the idle/stuttering problems I am still having, even though I already had the entire module replaced. I reset it by disconnecting the battery, and that really helped, but I know it's going to come back after a few hundred more miles. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rony Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Has anyone checked the service manuals for the manual controls vs the automatic controls to see if the pin outs are the same? That would lead me to try the JDM part, if they where simular. My Car vBGarage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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