Imprezsing04 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I just realized why my eibach/spec b bilsteins sit so high in the front! Cause I have spec b top hats! I def need to do one of the following: 1) Get swift springs or Pinks 2) See if the WL Com-c will work with the spec B strut (looks like they might not) 3) Put washers in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 3) put washers in... by washers do you mean saggy butt spacers? - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imprezsing04 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I thought you could put washers in but the washer was to use a non-inverted strut with the spec B tops = / Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 You're using Spec B (JDM) Top Hats with your spec B Bilsteins correct? If so, no washer required nor should it be used. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 And FWIW, the Eibach Pro Sport and Bilstein combo is the sweet-spot of stock-type suspensions. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imprezsing04 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 You're using Spec B (JDM) Top Hats with your spec B Bilsteins correct? If so, no washer required nor should it be used. Correct, yeah I was trying to search but I understood incorrectly at first And FWIW, the Eibach Pro Sport and Bilstein combo is the sweet-spot of stock-type suspensions. I really like the way it feels and handles but the Negative rake is killing me. It looks worst than stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 Has everything settled? Eibach/Epics need a couple K miles to settle properly. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imprezsing04 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Lol yeah I think they are as settled as they will be. I bought them from another member...strut and spring together. And I think I have had them on the car for about 9 months now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imprezsing04 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Its the spec B top hat that gives it like an extra 3/8" or something and I think the eibachs are conservative to begin with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 The Spec B OEM springs are cut shorter than standard Legacy springs to compensate for the extra deck-height of the front Spec B tophats. All of the other AM springs are made to fit a "Legacy" platform, so you don't get the shorter springs. Saggy butt spacers for the rear are your only "fix". - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted August 23, 2013 Moderators Share Posted August 23, 2013 Wagon-specific springs would also effectively be shorter in the front. "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imprezsing04 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Wagon-specific springs would also effectively be shorter in the front. That is why I want your springs badly!! haha you have a buyer waiting to give you cash locally. Maybe that will motivate you to work on your clutch issues and getting a new suspension ;-) Let me know. Otherwise, I might pull the trigger on some BC coilovers. I want the performance and even-ness of the BC's but not the maintenance thats involved. Plus you know MD puts salt down on everything so i dont want them to get all messed up The Spec B OEM springs are cut shorter than standard Legacy springs to compensate for the extra deck-height of the front Spec B tophats. All of the other AM springs are made to fit a "Legacy" platform, so you don't get the shorter springs. Saggy butt spacers for the rear are your only "fix". Do you think the oem spec b spring would make the car lower than the eibach right now? But i guess they would reduce the performance of my set up right now I was looking into getting rear spacers, might lower my front by like a 1/4". Or I can get swifts which are designed for the bilsteins so it will sit lower than now and then the wagon specific swifts will make the rear higher too, basically doing what a saggy butt spacer would do. And hopefully that will even out my car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 Wagon Swift Sport Springs are the same length as the sedan versions. Just longer in the rear to compensate for the extra loading. Still not long enough and I use 3/8" BSes to get some additional lift. And I wouldn't mix non-performance springs with performance springs unless your singular goal is stance - springs are made to work together as a system. IMO, you'd give up a lot in terms of handling and performance by going to stock SpecB springs at the front with Swifts at the rear, wagon or otherwise. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated Too laff79 Posted August 23, 2013 I Donated Too Share Posted August 23, 2013 I...think I'm lost ...is this... the suspension forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imprezsing04 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I...think I'm lost ...is this... the suspension forum? Lol i thought this was just for the locals to post about whatever. I want to buy barmans springs and we were talking about an install day and it led to this Wagon Swift Sport Springs are the same length as the sedan versions. Just longer in the rear to compensate for the extra loading. Still not long enough and I use 3/8" BSes to get some additional lift. And I wouldn't mix non-performance springs with performance springs unless your singular goal is stance - springs are made to work together as a system. IMO, you'd give up a lot in terms of handling and performance by going to stock SpecB springs at the front with Swifts at the rear, wagon or otherwise. well i guess i wouldve swapped to just spec b springs front and rear or the wagon swift set f/r but you are right, no mixing and matching. jokingly...i could cut my eibachs lol but might cause weird resonance and bounce like crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xero287 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Side note, fitting an AVO TMIC isn't the most fun thing to do in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJMC Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Suspension goodies going on the new Prius on Sunday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 Side note, fitting an AVO TMIC isn't the most fun thing to do in the world. Always thought fitting the AVO TMIC is a piece of cake, compared to the Perrin TMIC. But the worse thing is fitting an AVO TB hose to a Perrin TMIC - I still haven't accomplished it. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted August 23, 2013 Moderators Share Posted August 23, 2013 I think the key is tightening things up incrementally--don't tighten one connection all the way until the TMIC is in place. I also have studs installed on my turbo, I think they help with situating things. "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 I leave the turbo until the end. Once I've gotten the TMIC firmly lodged in the TB hose, I pretty much lock it down so it doesn't move backwards away from the hose, then pull the TMIC forward very slightly on the turbo side and tighten it down. Then retighten everything. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 OAN - building an 11' high x 4' wide x 2' deep storage rack. Love building stuff. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imprezsing04 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Side note, fitting an AVO TMIC isn't the most fun thing to do in the world. Are you doing that today? Measure the spare tire well too! Suspension goodies going on the new Prius on Sunday! Did you find a place to work on your car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCASEYS Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Side note, fitting an AVO TMIC isn't the most fun thing to do in the world. SIMPLE, it's the PW fitment that is an adventure I donated to LegacyGT.com which allows me to have this nifty signature. If anything SCASEYS posts ever becomes a sticky i'm gonna light this whole place on fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegacyGTBiggie Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Perrin went on no issue when I had it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 ^ With no impingement in the clutch slave cylinder banjo bolt area? Or was yours a 5EAT - I disremember. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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