Dapurdybirdie Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 so you can pass smog with a cobb tune? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebourne Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Just remember the two elements. 1 no codes. 2 visual. Tucking away would not be CARB approved. Leaving connected who is to say the butterfly is not connected any longer. Tech isn't going to tear into your car that far to see. Oh, you're saying the modified, butterfly-less TGVs (kinda deletes) would be fine. At first I thought you meant the deletes. That's my thought. Ive got JDM deletes in right now. Modified my USDM TGV's to be deletes with the bar still in thinking I can sell them to someone that wants deletes but doesn't want to worry about passing smog. You might have a customer. <---- pic thread build thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris GTO TT Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Just remember the two elements. 1 no codes. 2 visual. Tucking away would not be CARB approved. Leaving connected who is to say the butterfly is not connected any longer. Tech isn't going to tear into your car that far to see.Yep Everything needs to look like it's visually in place. so you can pass smog with a cobb tune?Stage 1 yes, stage 2 you'd likely fail visual. Oh, you're saying the modified, butterfly-less TGVs (kinda deletes) would be fine. At first I thought you meant the deletes Yes that should pass visual the other option is to cut the rod so it doesn't go into the TGV housings but still looks like it's attached. 2003 Baja 5MT 2016 Outback 2.5i Premium w/Eyesight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhitter Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) Yep Everything needs to look like it's visually in place. Stage 1 yes, stage 2 you'd likely fail visual. Yes that should pass visual the other option is to cut the rod so it doesn't go into the TGV housings but still looks like it's attached. You can leave your stage 2 tune in place, just don't hit boost with the OEM DP though. That's currently my plan. Hoping it passes. I'll know in June. Edited January 3, 2017 by Rhitter My OBXT build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diavolo Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 You can leave your stage 2 tune in place, just don't hit post with the OEM DP though. That's currently my plan. Hoping it passes. I'll know in June. i'm due again about that time too. you'll pass i passed that way (left the stage 2 pro-tune on, swapped down pipe) last time and it was a sniffer test then. it came up a little dirtier than the previous smog but still passed. one of my buddies passed the current OBD test a little while back with a cobb catted downpipe, invidia catback and off the shelf cobb stage two flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabaracers Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 just a quick word about those talking about smog shops that are a bit lax on the rules: I believe they're required to look at serial numbers on all emission items. and for them to over look some visuals is probably a no no by California. so with that being said, I do appreciate smog locations that aren't strict. I think carb is over reaching and dumb. so maybe it might not be super recommended to mention very specific shops, in case someone is snooping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMJ5150 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Can any one chime in on oil catch cans and grimmspeed TMIC? I was turned down from the visuals alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhitter Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Can any one chime in on oil catch cans and grimmspeed TMIC? I was turned down from the visuals alone. Catch can is a no go. Modifying the stock PCV system. Just the Grimmspeed TMIC you may be able to pass. My OBXT build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzr750r1 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Can any one chime in on oil catch cans and grimmspeed TMIC? I was turned down from the visuals alone. Most testers will want it to look stock. Some may look the other way. Just know the fines for looking the other way is more than your willing to pay, so don't expect this kind of treatment from anyone. I was questioned why there was a mechanical oil pressure gauge in the engine bay. After explaining what it is and why... No Problem... But that's the ONLY item that was not stock looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaos22B Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 An intercooler replacement is not a violation of smog laws in CA. I have the printout somewhere with the code section, but I kept it handy (when I was in CA) in the glovebox for that very reason. A non-recirculating BOV however, would fail the test. Like Rhitter said, the catch can (ironically, since it doesn't actually hurt anything) will fail visual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebourne Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 An intercooler replacement is not a violation of smog laws in CA. I have the printout somewhere with the code section, but I kept it handy (when I was in CA) in the glovebox for that very reason. A non-recirculating BOV however, would fail the test. Like Rhitter said, the catch can (ironically, since it doesn't actually hurt anything) will fail visual. Huh, I didn't know that... Even so, some shops don't want to play that game at all, and will turn you away, or even fail you even if you show them it's legal. You don't have to ask me how I know. pic thread build thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaos22B Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Huh, I didn't know that... Even so, some shops don't want to play that game at all, and will turn you away, or even fail you even if you show them it's legal. You don't have to ask me how I know. I can imagine that's the case at some places. I however showed them the code section, if they want to fail you due to a legal mod, I would just go elsewhere (and not pay them, of course). When you're in the right, you have the power to do as you please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMJ5150 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Catch can is a no go. Modifying the stock PCV system. Just the Grimmspeed TMIC you may be able to pass. Most testers will want it to look stock. Some may look the other way. Just know the fines for looking the other way is more than your willing to pay, so don't expect this kind of treatment from anyone. I was questioned why there was a mechanical oil pressure gauge in the engine bay. After explaining what it is and why... No Problem... But that's the ONLY item that was not stock looking. An intercooler replacement is not a violation of smog laws in CA. I have the printout somewhere with the code section, but I kept it handy (when I was in CA) in the glovebox for that very reason. A non-recirculating BOV however, would fail the test. Like Rhitter said, the catch can (ironically, since it doesn't actually hurt anything) will fail visual. Thanks for the reply... I put on the factory tmic and will remove the cans and plumb the hoses together .. Hopefully that works... He seem to have bypass my grimmspeed boost control the first time ... but can't bet he'll overlook it the second time.... Edited January 5, 2017 by JMJ5150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzr750r1 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Helps to place the engine cover back on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebourne Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Maybe put it on with bolts and nuts. pic thread build thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzr750r1 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) They won't tear it off. Time is money. For sure needed if you chose to install TGV deletes. Edited January 20, 2017 by kzr750r1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need bb Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Going for smog soon. Put back the stock DP and BPV, but still running the EWG. Any advise before I go in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzr750r1 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Make sure you drive a bit and make sure there are no CEL showing up. Refresh my memory EWG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaos22B Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 external wastegate... Won't pass visual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebourne Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 If he doesn't see it, he'll probably hear it, then go looking for it. pic thread build thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th3Franz Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 If he doesn't see it, he'll probably hear it, then go looking for it. will only hear it under boost -Franz The end of a Legacy http://www.youtube.com/th3franz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebourne Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 And in spite of all our fear mongering, someone in the Outback thread recently successfully smogged with downpipe, ELH, TGV deletes, ECBS and a tune. Sometimes you can get lucky. pic thread build thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzr750r1 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 All depends on the knowledge of the tech about the car. I was questioned about the mechanical oil pressure gauge that is extended from the upper rear galley. All of the HW on the car is stock, yet, my up pipe is gutted. Just paid for my last registration and look forward to picking up a DP that will have to be removed and tune pulled back to stage 1.5 next trip to the smog station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need bb Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Good news. I passed smog! Now I can keep the car for another two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhitter Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Did you have the engine cover on to hide your external waste gate? My OBXT build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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