SBT Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Not racing, so I just get the standard OEM one. Works fine and lasts at least 105K miles. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Gates is the OEM supplier of timing belts to Subaru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boostedgrocerygetter Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 I don't doubt it gates is the tbelt supplier to many car manufactures. Also the tensioner from Subaru and gates are supplied by the same company. As well as the idlers. Pretty sure the water pump is as well but I can't remember for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontGT Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Gates is the OEM supplier of timing belts to Subaru. Care to run that by Mitsuboshi? Please tell me that Gates recently struck up a contract with Subaru...since Mitsuboshi has been supplying their belts forever. As a vendor, you should know this. And, as a vendor, I assume that you know something that I do not. Please elaborate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontGT Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 I don't doubt it gates is the tbelt supplier to many car manufactures. Also the tensioner from Subaru and gates are supplied by the same company. As well as the idlers. Pretty sure the water pump is as well but I can't remember for sure. Gates doesn't make their water pumps, they farm them out to Chinese manufacturers as do most companies selling timing belt kits. Look for an Aisin if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJuan Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Care to run that by Mitsuboshi? Please tell me that Gates recently struck up a contract with Subaru...since Mitsuboshi has been supplying their belts forever. As a vendor, you should know this. And, as a vendor, I assume that you know something that I do not. Please elaborate. What's with the attacks? No need to be an asshat in this thread. GTFO! My wife's balls are delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibr_adam09 Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 VermontGt. As the op, I want you out of my thread if you're going to antagonize awesome venders and community supporters, such as M Sprank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boostedgrocerygetter Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 There is no problem with questioning sprank comment but there are ways to do it. But yes I am aware gates does not make their own water pumps I never stated that they did. I stated that I believed that the gates kit and oem came from the same company. I work in the auto industry I understand that most components are contracted out. You can't tell me that an auto manufacture makes every single component on the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Gates water pump is Chinese farmed. Not OEM. ACC belts are supplied by Mitsubishi. A pic of a Gates Timing kit box for a Subaru. Note the "OE Components" tag (this kit does not contain the water pump). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontGT Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 VermontGt. As the op, I want you out of my thread if you're going to antagonize awesome venders and community supporters, such as M Sprank. K I'm gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Just in case no one else has paid attention, the part numbers on the "Mitsubishi" ACC belts are Gates part numbers. It would make logical sense that Gates is contracted by Mitsu to produce the belts sold under their name. Gates does have a Japanese division located in Japan. Many, many products sold under many many names are all produced by a limited number of manufactures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boostedgrocerygetter Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 ^+1 Look at napa. All of Napa's parts carry the Napa name and logo. But you really think Napa makes all of the parts they sell. hell no they buy them and pay extra to rebrand them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boostedgrocerygetter Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Example 2. You really think Cobb makes all of their items. No... The Cobb sway bars released for our cars were made by hotchkis. Rebrand as Cobb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I think each reseller, does add their own variation to the belt, i.e., the blue or black finish (don't know whether it's paint or not) and also don't know whether this is to enhance longevity, or to make them quiet-er, but it's there. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charged Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Painted timing belts are worth +5hp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJuan Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 ^^ Sould be worth a -5hp for the additional weight on the pulleys. My wife's balls are delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 OP, so prior to your timing belt getting ripped, you basically had low compression on #4 without knowing it right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibr_adam09 Posted May 14, 2013 Author Share Posted May 14, 2013 Most likely because none of my valves were bent. Had no symthoms of burning oil, bad mpg, or odd noises. Looking back, airboy dyno and virtual dyno did show pretty low hp reading (at least for an 18g) when I was getting tuned at the time. If I had to guess the source of the problem, it would have been around the time I discovered my fpr line disconnected a month before my belt popped. I think that may have something to do with it, then again my afr ratio was always spot on in boost. Maybe it was just aged at 120k. Long story short. You may be driving on a bad cylinder and not know it In the meantime. I'm at 6k with the new motor, amsoil synth and just got back from a 3 hour spirited driving trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJuan Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I'm in the same boat with you adam, had a crack ringland and didn't realized it until I did my head gasket change. I was losing at least 1 quart of oil ever month, but yet the car was still running strong. When I notice the hair line crack on the edge of the piston, I knew it was time to pull the motor and rebuilt it. Now with the new motor and new forged CP pistons, I notice a difference in power and no oil consumption. btw - thanks adam for the advice when I was doing my new motor. My wife's balls are delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boostedgrocerygetter Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Well that's good that oil consumption goes along with that issue. I only burn about 1/8 qt over the course of 4k miles. So I guess as soon as I see that shoot up ill worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibr_adam09 Posted September 5, 2013 Author Share Posted September 5, 2013 Knock on wood. Still going great with my motor. Actually in the middle of another tune after an actuator install. I think this makes my 4th tune in 6 months. I did recently replace my ocv's and rebuilt my chra. Swapped to T6 oil and see how I like it seeing how its 1/3 the cost of amsoil. I rather change more often if I spend the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob-2 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Knock on wood. Still going great with my motor. Actually in the middle of another tune after an actuator install. I think this makes my 4th tune in 6 months. I did recently replace my ocv's and rebuilt my chra. Swapped to T6 oil and see how I like it seeing how its 1/3 the cost of amsoil. I rather change more often if I spend the money. Lucky duck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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