thatericguy Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 wtf...i honestly see no pics on page 6. I even looked at the source code for the page and it doesn't appear to have any picture links. I am using Mozilla, and even went to a machine with only IE on it and still don't see any pictures. I should at least see a broken link or something. help?! i need to seee the results after all this time! :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtguy Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 nicd, can you post your camber settings before and after? What I'm suspecting is that with the drop you gained some camber, particularly at the rear, which is what accounts for the stability enhancements you feel, and increased willingness to turn in. Fundamentally, you have gone from slight tail up, to a more level car. That vehicle will indeed exhibit a greater willingness to turn in. That was one reason that the Prodrive springs for the WRX worked so well--they leveled out the car. That they ride like the SPT setup is bad news for me. That was something I was looking to get rid of when I got out of my WRX. That, and the whole notion of feeling like I was driving an "unfinished" car. :lol: But while the SPT stuff (for me, it should be pointed out) was great for around town, and running errands, I wouldn't have taken it on a longish road trip. Thanks again for being the first one, and answering so many questions that people had about that setup. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanoswrx Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 685, wow thats an amazing price, I will buy them now for that :) some vendors should really get going on this suspension now. Judging from the WRX's Spec C suspension these will sell like hot cakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GranTourer Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 [quote name='thatericguy']wtf...i honestly see no pics on page 6. I even looked at the source code for the page and it doesn't appear to have any picture links. I am using Mozilla, and even went to a machine with only IE on it and still don't see any pictures. I should at least see a broken link or something. help?! i need to seee the results after all this time! :x[/quote] You need to be logged in to view the pics, or else you just see the text describing the pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agctr Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 Fantastic Job, looks great and i would have to say it was well worth the wait just to get the pics. Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 [quote name='kanoswrx']685, wow thats an amazing price, I will buy them now for that :) some vendors should really get going on this suspension now. Judging from the WRX's Spec C suspension these will sell like hot cakes.[/quote] You and me both! 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicd Posted August 23, 2004 Author Share Posted August 23, 2004 Just an FYI at 685$ you really have to take care of evrything yourself. As at that price any vendor is not going to do it as they have no profit margin to make. I doubt that you will see these in the US for much under 1000$. It is just not worth it for less than that. I also have a local contact in Japan that can get parts but, they have to advance the cash, source the part make sure it is in good condition and win the auction, then they have to store the part locally (as you also know space is at a premium in Japan, they then have to repack it to ship by post international, take care of the shipping costs plus duties. All in all that is why I think you will not see the spec B suspension offered here for the cost plus direct shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 [quote name='nicd']Just an FYI at 685$ you really have to take care of evrything yourself. As at that price any vendor is not going to do it as they have no profit margin to make. I doubt that you will see these in the US for much under 1000$. It is just not worth it for less than that. I also have a local contact in Japan that can get parts but, they have to advance the cash, source the part make sure it is in good condition and win the auction, then they have to store the part locally (as you also know space is at a premium in Japan, they then have to repack it to ship by post international, take care of the shipping costs plus duties. All in all that is why I think you will not see the spec B suspension offered here for the cost plus direct shipping.[/quote] Although it should be 750 US landed correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicd Posted August 23, 2004 Author Share Posted August 23, 2004 Yeah, actually the real total cost was 75,000 yen plus duty and taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 [quote name='nicd']Yeah, actually the real total cost was 75,000 yen plus duty and taxes.[/quote] Still not a bad price. Throw in STi pinks for another 300-400 and you'd be all set. 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff_DML Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 [quote name='gtguy'] That they ride like the SPT setup is bad news for me. That was something I was looking to get rid of when I got out of my WRX. That, and the whole notion of feeling like I was driving an "unfinished" car. :lol: But while the SPT stuff (for me, it should be pointed out) was great for around town, and running errands, I wouldn't have taken it on a longish road trip. Thanks again for being the first one, and answering so many questions that people had about that setup. Kevin[/quote] ^ same comment. I was hoping the would provide a more refined ride, aka BMW like, with increased performance, especially since they where tuned by a german comapny. My bouncy ride in my wrx with JDM STi takeoffs can get old afterwhile and I miss the ride of our bmw wagon(which handles good by the way). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicd Posted August 23, 2004 Author Share Posted August 23, 2004 Guys do not mis-understand what I am saying, I think that an un-finished ride is very stong and negative way to talk about the spec B suspension. It will at speed behave in my book better than the stock suspension, less rebound adn bounce from road holes etc. But if you are just cruising around it will not feel like you are in livingroom couch. As I said the spec b is worth getting for the dampers alone, just buy softer coils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC GT Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 nicd, as far as you can tell, are the USDM top hats the same as the spec B top hats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtguy Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 Oh nicd, to clarify my WRX felt like an "unfinished" car overall, as regards fit and finish. I didn't at all mean to imply that the Spec B stuff on the Legacy GT was "unfinished." Sorry about that. The WRX was just noisy, and intrusive, and just too young for me, I'm afraid. The suspension firmness thing is just a personal thing. I'm old, and want my cushiness these days. Sorry for any misunderstanding. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicd Posted August 23, 2004 Author Share Posted August 23, 2004 Kevin I know where you are comming from! The harder the ride the more noise intrusion you will get. At this point the noisiest element in the chain are the tires, plus the top hats are not the same as the stock USDM ones you will need to replace those if you want to get the spec B suspension in, the JDM ones have less padding thus more noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agctr Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Could you spec this padding up to be thicker, hence less noise or is that impossible? Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicd Posted August 24, 2004 Author Share Posted August 24, 2004 I think that you maybe right but decide for yourself: [img]http://www.legacysti.com/files/resize_of_pict0646.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicd Posted August 24, 2004 Author Share Posted August 24, 2004 Well regarding the review, there is not much else to say than what has already been said. The car does handle better under hard cornering braking. The suspension is less compliant-coils are shorter than stock and are stiffer. The shocks are quite fast and potholes and speed bumps are easily handeled by the shocks. The ride is harder than the stock ride. There is alittle more road noise. The parts fit. To be frank unless you want a more hard edge ride do not switch. If you are wanting to get rid of some of the understeer and want less wallow and want a faster follow throu from the rear then switch or start looking at some of the other bits ie swaybar,links. But this car I think is not as easy to improve as the WRX. I feel that for a GT it is very well sorted out of the box. PS do reme,ber that the suspension up-grade was done on a fairly sticky rubber. Thats about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaqtly Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Thanks very much nicd, this has been very informative. It sounds like the spec B suspension is actually what I'm looking for. I'm still not sure if I were to get the Spec-B suspension, if I would need JDM top hats or not though. Will the USDM top hats work, or do we not know that yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanoswrx Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 From looking at the sides of the top mounts they do look a little different. It looks to be that the strut piston tops might be different, would have been able to tell right away if they were interchangeable if we had a side by side shot of the piston tops and the threaded section. But in my case I would rather just buy spec b take offs with the tops already attached, makes installs much much quicker and easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicd Posted August 24, 2004 Author Share Posted August 24, 2004 To be on the safe side get the JDM specB top hats. PS the coils are compressed so just bare that in-mind for the ease of install. But I doubt from what I saw that we can use our regular USDM top hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC GT Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 nicd, why don't you think the USDM top hats would work with the Spec B struts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicd Posted August 25, 2004 Author Share Posted August 25, 2004 I beleive and this is just a thought that the piston will not fit porperly into the USDM tophat, you would have to take them apart to check which you should only do if you have clamps to keep the coils compressed but if you look at the pictures the spec B top hat is larger where the part of the shaft comes to rest. I could be wrong but from a quick observation that is what I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC GT Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 So, nicd, now that you've had a couple of weeks with it, are you still happy with the Spec B set up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 That's a great question SC. Nicd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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