bill harvey Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I am looking to make mine towards back of car for up a gear and towards front for down shifting like a proper car, is there a way i can do this i keep shifting dow when trying to shift up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 That seems illogical. What cars have pull-back for up-shifting? [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted March 5, 2012 Moderators Share Posted March 5, 2012 drive backwards. "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimberDHexMods Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Yes it's been done. Just swap the pins on the shifter harness. FSM shows what wires are what and where to find them. Forum has scattered info on how to pull up the center console trim. I feel like pulling back (like shifting from MT 1>2) is more intuitive, and forward for slowing down... preference. [CENTER][B][I] Front Limited Slip Racing Differentials for the 5EAT now available for $1895 shipped, please inquire for details! [/I][/B][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lieutenantcolumbo Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Somebody on here did it posted up pictures as well. It was an old post I believe when I looked at it a couple years ago, so you'll have to search hard. But it has been done and relatively easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatsuDano Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 That seems illogical. What cars have pull-back for up-shifting? I thought some BMW's had it like this. I don't remember the rationale though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lardo420 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 sell car buy 5mt /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill harvey Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 sell car buy 5mt /thread Would this still be your recommendation if I only have a right leg? Porsche and every real sequential tranny has back to up gear and forward to downshift just watch wrc and you can see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lardo420 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Would this still be your recommendation if I only have a right leg? yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatsuDano Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Something tells me if you only have one leg you aren't exactly the type who is going to be competing in WRC. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Just learn to love the direction it goes in and recognize that it's a Subaru 5EAT. If you want a car with a porsche transmission, get a porsche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimberDHexMods Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 You just rationalized away all reason for modifying a car. [CENTER][B][I] Front Limited Slip Racing Differentials for the 5EAT now available for $1895 shipped, please inquire for details! [/I][/B][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Would this still be your recommendation if I only have a right leg? Porsche and every real sequential tranny has back to up gear and forward to downshift just watch wrc and you can see it. The 5EAT isn't a "real sequential tranny" And you are wrong about Porsche. http://carfreakz.com/wp-content/uploads/HLIC/94333c0fe168bdcd0a5416cd4cfe78ed.jpg [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.sane Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Mazda is the only manufacturer I know of that has pull-back for upshifting, other than racing cars with real sequential gearboxes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDragonV09 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I did it on mine. I just opened up the box and swapped the switch locations. Back is upshift and forward is downshift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatsuDano Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 You just rationalized away all reason for modifying a car. I know, and it made me sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyOldManMN Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 That seems illogical. What cars have pull-back for up-shifting? Cars with enough acceleration that it seems illogical to require the driver to push forward on something while the car is trying it's best to force the drive into the back seat? Or cars with good enough braking that it seems illogical to require the driver to pull back on a lever while trying to avoid making their way out the windshield? I know it's often simply done that way (forward for up, back for down), but I've never understood why... Physics WTF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Cars with enough acceleration that it seems illogical to require the driver to push forward on something while the car is trying it's best to force the drive into the back seat? Or cars with good enough braking that it seems illogical to require the driver to pull back on a lever on their way out the windshield. And a Subaru fits that bill, but no Porsche does? [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyOldManMN Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Already edited for clarity. Porsche is f#$%ing up if they do it that way. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Already edited for clarity. Porsche is f#$%ing up if they do it that way. Sorry. No they aren't. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyOldManMN Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 An engineer that designs a car which pushes me back in the seat so hard I can barely reach the shifter is f'ing up if they then make me PUSH IT FORWARD instead of pulling it. This is common sense stuff here. What rational justification can you possibly give where pushing forward to upshift makes sense, other than pointing out who does it that way? Are WRC teams doing it wrong? Is it possible they have a REALLY GOOD REASON for changing from the norm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 An engineer that designs a car which pushes me back in the seat so hard I can barely reach the shifter is f'ing up if they then make me PUSH IT FORWARD instead of pulling it. This is common sense stuff here. What rational justification can you possibly give where pushing forward to upshift makes sense, other than pointing out who does it that way? Are WRC teams doing it wrong? Is it possible they have a REALLY GOOD REASON for changing from the norm? An ergonomics engineer ensures you aren't "reaching" for the shifter. If you are, you are doing it wrong, not the car. Last I looked, all modern rally cars used paddles as primary shift instruments? [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyOldManMN Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Last time I actually remember what I saw for the shifters was rally cross. They definitely did the forward for down, back for up thing. I have no doubt I could dig up some youtube footage if for some reason you think I'm pulling your prick. Ergonomics or no, 0-60 in sub 4 seconds is going to have a negative affect on your ability to reach anything in front of you. The "logical" reason to push forward to down shift and pull back to up shift is because of what's happening to you inside the car while driving it hard. What is the logical reason for the 'Porsche' approach? Do they have one? I can't think of a good argument. Assuming your ergonomics engineer was a god damn rockstar and came up with some kind of Cthulu-esque, physics-defying Feng Shui cockpit that negated any g-forces entering the cabin, it STILL doesn't make any sense to me. It's a 50/50 decision, one of them has merit and the other... doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Don't know what to tell you. Every sub 4 second 0-60 car I've driven has never been a struggle to get into 3rd gear with a manual transmission. And every *fast* automatic I've ever driven, I've used the paddles. How fat are your arms that the g's associated with accelerating make it impossible for you to move a shift lever an inch in either direction? [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyOldManMN Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 How thick are you that you think the argument is whether or not it's possible? We're talking optimal engineering. Why are you ok half-assing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimberDHexMods Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 You can try going both ways, see which orientation feels "right"... [CENTER][B][I] Front Limited Slip Racing Differentials for the 5EAT now available for $1895 shipped, please inquire for details! [/I][/B][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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