Mega Users paintpollz Posted August 31, 2012 Mega Users Share Posted August 31, 2012 I did a pretty thorough inspection of my sisters yesterday. I can say that I wasn't very impressed on the quality of the interior materials aside from the leather. The plastics are cheap. And even the plastic chrome trim on the outside of the car seemed slightly flimsy and cheap. Oh well. "Remember Danny - Two wrongs don't make a right but three rights make a left." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDII Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 it is an American car. Did you expect better? Need forum help? Private Message legGTLT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users paintpollz Posted August 31, 2012 Mega Users Share Posted August 31, 2012 it is an American car. Did you expect better? marginally, yes. When comparing it to the new Tahoe and Explorers interiors, I did expect it to be on par. "Remember Danny - Two wrongs don't make a right but three rights make a left." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDII Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 I guess the commercials and the claim to have the best interior in class would lead one to believe there have been improvements. Need forum help? Private Message legGTLT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users paintpollz Posted August 31, 2012 Mega Users Share Posted August 31, 2012 Specifically the plastic being thicker and less flimsy. Best interior in class? Maybe best looking. "best" is very vague. "Remember Danny - Two wrongs don't make a right but three rights make a left." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users paintpollz Posted August 31, 2012 Mega Users Share Posted August 31, 2012 also, leave room in your wallet for this upon purchase. for obvious reasons so clean, and necessary for jeep weekends. "Remember Danny - Two wrongs don't make a right but three rights make a left." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDII Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 Specifically the plastic being thicker and less flimsy. Best interior in class? Maybe best looking. "best" is very vague. Not that I agree, just saying. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3f_3GLA8hY]2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee "Luxury for All" Commercial - YouTube[/ame] [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcKGMLwCmdQ]2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee "Sandbox" Commercial - YouTube[/ame] [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7Rxk6PhNWg]2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee "More than Respect" Commercial - YouTube[/ame] Need forum help? Private Message legGTLT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 this I'm hoping for 35-40 highway mpg with 300whp/400trq Well hope you'll settle for 28-29 highway, and about 225-240hp/410-420lb-ft at the crank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDII Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 are those the numbers with the 5 or 8 speed auto? source? Need forum help? Private Message legGTLT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Just an educated guess based on competitive vehicles in that price range, namely the VW Toureg TDI which weighs around the same, is roughly the same size, and also has an 8 speed auto. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Jeep diesel (if ever offered) squarely bracket the VW numbers within 5% of every figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDII Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 I've heard the 8speed they are using is beefed up a bit (rumor) to handle the torque. It better do more than 30mpg. They have V8's putting out 30+mpg with that tranny Need forum help? Private Message legGTLT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 On what vehicle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDII Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 early tests on the new 300 Need forum help? Private Message legGTLT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 A bit lighter, and a bit smaller hole being punched in the air, plus no additional friction drag of AWD components. Also bet you that the final EPA numbers won't show over 30mpg highway for a Hemi hooked up to an 8 speed. Maybe mid to high 20's on the highway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users paintpollz Posted September 7, 2012 Mega Users Share Posted September 7, 2012 (if ever offered) I'm starting to think the same thing. Based on the slim Liberty CRD sales in 05-06, heavy state regulation on diesel emissions, and the new pentastar V6, I'm thinking there is a reason why the expected release was bumped out to 2014. "Remember Danny - Two wrongs don't make a right but three rights make a left." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDII Posted September 7, 2012 Author Share Posted September 7, 2012 The diesel option in the liberty flopped because the liberty is a POS. The GC is selling like hotcakes up here in NE. The older diesel didn't really offer much over the gas anyway. It only achieved 3 more MPGs and more torque. When you're talking 300whp/400+trq and 28+ mpg you're looking at a recipe for success. People who tow and need an SUV will be scrambling to get one. Need forum help? Private Message legGTLT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated Too laff79 Posted September 7, 2012 I Donated Too Share Posted September 7, 2012 Specifically the plastic being thicker and less flimsy. Best interior in class? Maybe best looking. "best" is very vague. sat in one of them at the Philly Auto Show. I dug the leather a lot and the fit n finish seemed nice for a Jeep. However, was disappointed with how claustrophobic it seemed in the driver's seat. The Hyundai Vera Cruz destroyed it in terms of interior quality and room believe it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users paintpollz Posted September 7, 2012 Mega Users Share Posted September 7, 2012 When you're talking 300whp/400+trq and 28+ mpg you're looking at a recipe for success. People who tow and need an SUV will be scrambling to get one. I agree. When I purchase a boat within the next 3 years, you're damn right this will be on my radar, along with an RRS. The diesel option in the liberty flopped because the liberty is a POS. You are entitled to your opinion. If the Liberty was such a POS during the 2005-2006 years that they produced the CRDs, they wouldn't have sold the most Liberty's ever during those years. The US just doesn't have enough demand for the diesels, so at the time were not enough Liberty CRDs sold to justify the existance of the option. I'm thinking this is an reoccuring concern with the WK2. The diesel option in the Liberty also flopped because the states where large percentage of Jeeps were sold per there size, banned sales of the CRD in their states because of emissions standards. (ME, VT, MA, NY, CA). I'm sure this will not be an issue with the new diesel. "Remember Danny - Two wrongs don't make a right but three rights make a left." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users paintpollz Posted September 7, 2012 Mega Users Share Posted September 7, 2012 sat in one of them at the Philly Auto Show. I dug the leather a lot and the fit n finish seemed nice for a Jeep. However, was disappointed with how claustrophobic it seemed in the driver's seat. The Hyundai Vera Cruz destroyed it in terms of interior quality and room believe it or not. Hyundai crushes. A very sick car company. "Remember Danny - Two wrongs don't make a right but three rights make a left." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDII Posted September 7, 2012 Author Share Posted September 7, 2012 I agree. When I purchase a boat within the next 3 years, you're damn right this will be on my radar, along with an RRS. You are entitled to your opinion. If the Liberty was such a POS during the 2005-2006 years that they produced the CRDs, they wouldn't have sold the most Liberty's ever during those years. The US just doesn't have enough demand for the diesels, so at the time were not enough Liberty CRDs sold to justify the existance of the option. I'm thinking this is an reoccuring concern with the WK2. The diesel option in the Liberty also flopped because the states where large percentage of Jeeps were sold per there size, banned sales of the CRD in their states because of emissions standards. (ME, VT, MA, NY, CA). I'm sure this will not be an issue with the new diesel. There's a difference between "best sales" and "high sales" It's never been a strong contender. Need forum help? Private Message legGTLT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 When you're talking 300whp/400+trq and 28+ mpg you're looking at a recipe for success. People who tow and need an SUV will be scrambling to get one. Not going to get there with a 3.0L V6 diesel at least not the hp number. Not even close. It would need compound turbocharging ($$$$$$$) and a lot of expertise that Fiat doesn't have and Chrysler doesn't have. The leaders in diesel passenger vehicle power and innovation are Mercedes-Benz, BMW, and VW. Their 3.0L 6's in diesel form are nearly all in the 225-240hp range, except for BMW who uses complex and expensive compound turbocharging on some models. Mercedes Benz and VW get more power by offering V8 diesels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDII Posted September 7, 2012 Author Share Posted September 7, 2012 220 or 300 it will still tow 6000+ with all that trq Need forum help? Private Message legGTLT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 220 or 300 it will still tow 6000+ with all that trq 6000lbs isn't very much. A dodge durango from 1998 with the v8 can tow 7k with the tow package. Why doesn't chrysler tell cummings to make them a new diesel for there smaller SUVs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated Too laff79 Posted September 7, 2012 I Donated Too Share Posted September 7, 2012 ib4snarkyihavetohavethelastwordcomment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDII Posted September 7, 2012 Author Share Posted September 7, 2012 the durango also gets 11mpg Need forum help? Private Message legGTLT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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