Underdog Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYFQ9kqPSPs]YouTube - Shock Dyno Demo[/ame] The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorbykemike Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 A dynomometer measures torque from a rotating machine whether its an electric motor, an engine, or from the wheels of a car. It is not a tool that can measure resistance of dampers in any of its forms. im gonna go with my wifes fav response , "whatever" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorbykemike Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 and there you have it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 While that's not technically a dyno, its good to know that's how its done. Take a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamometer#Types_of_dynamometers lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 im gonna go with my wifes fav response , "whatever" Thanks for that. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorbykemike Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 if you were my wife you would owe me a bj or dinner depending on the particular 'bet' but , whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorbykemike Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 While that's not technically a dyno, its good to know that's how its done. Take a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamometer#Types_of_dynamometers why do ohlins , penske , wp , showa , bilstein , traxxion dynamics , le , works , race tach , elka , tein , rce , kyb & just about every other damper company on the planet call it a shock or damper dyno then ? maybe the did not read the know all wiki thing eh ? what does wiki call it ? seriously doood , it's a dyno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 While that's not technically a dyno, its good to know that's how its done. Take a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamometer#Types_of_dynamometers It is technically a dyno. Read and learn: http://www.roehrigengineering.com/Technical%20Information/Where%20the%20graphs%20come%20from.pdf The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 We're arguing over terminology, so it doesn't really matter. If you refer to it as "shock dyno" I wouldn't argue. If you refer to it as a "dyno" I will argue. Either way, I'd never seen it before so thanks for sharing. As I mentioned a dynomometer measures torque of a rotating machine and nothing more. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorbykemike Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 i concur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 We're arguing over terminology, so it doesn't really matter. If you refer to it as "shock dyno" I wouldn't argue. If you refer to it as a "dyno" I will argue. Either way, I'd never seen it before so thanks for sharing. As I mentioned a dynomometer measures torque of a rotating machine and nothing more. No, this is not semantics. The resistance of the damper acting on a rotating assembly is what is being measured. I do not refer to it as a shock dyno, the industry refers to it as such. By virtue of being an internet argument it doesn't really matter, but a shock dyno is a dyno. Done. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 No, this is not semantics. The resistance of the damper acting on a rotating assembly is what is being measured. I do not refer to it as a shock dyno, the industry refers to it as such. By virtue of being an internet argument it doesn't really matter, but a shock dyno is a dyno. Done. Actually the resistance isn't being measured. A force is being measured and resistance is calculated based on speed and force. But good to know that you didn't read your own link. Call it what you want, as an engineer I make sure my terminology is correct at all times. Maybe your profession doesn't require you to be correct all the time... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 And also from your own link: " The force vs. shaft speed graphs you see in this article come from data generated by testing a damper in what is generally known as a shock dyno or damper dynamometer " lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Terminology is correct but you are wrong to say it's not a dyno. Reaction force or resistance, call it what you will but it is a dyno in the classic sense being used to quantify the damping effect of the shock. You have no idea what my profession is, but then again you don't know how to admit when you are wrong either. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 And also from your own link: " The force vs. shaft speed graphs you see in this article come from data generated by testing a damper in what is generally known as a shock dyno or damper dynamometer " ...and you are proving my point? The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorbykemike Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 i concur again , this is my part time field/hobby labor of love btw & i do know wtf is up . much like a potentiometer , there is on our gas pedal that rotates or a tps & one that travels in a straight line like on a SHOCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 ...and you are proving my point? Well, if you were bright enough to understand, the statement infers that that the name of the instrument is a general term and not official. It is "generally" referred to as this. I really don't want to or care to argue about this anymore. Again, its terminology and in the end doesn't matter. Thank you again for sharing the video and pdf. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorbykemike Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 as an engineer I make sure my terminology is correct at all times. Maybe your profession doesn't require you to be correct all the time... where is the gigantic O RLY button ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorbykemike Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 go back to night school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Ahh, i see. Insult my intelligence and grasp at straws and somehow you are not wrong. It is an interesting world you live in. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorbykemike Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Well, if you were bright enough to understand, the statement infers that that the name of the instrument is a general term and not official. It is "generally" referred to as this. I really don't want to or care to argue about this anymore. Again, its terminology and in the end doesn't matter. Thank you again for sharing the video and pdf. ok , no more arguing , i just wanna know what that thimagig that the shock in the video is on is really called , please , by all means enlighten me as i am always willing too learn something new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorbykemike Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 good thing i'm too stupid to spell thingamagig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorbykemike Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 any architects in the house , i love those peeps too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 ok , no more arguing , i just wanna know what that thimagig that the shock in the video is on is really called , please , by all means enlighten me as i am always willing too learn something new We are not bright enough to understand that he - as an engineer - has never heard of it, therefore it doesn't exist. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Ahh, i see. Insult my intelligence and grasp at straws and somehow you are not wrong. It is an interesting world you live in. I'm sorry, I didn't mean for it to be an insult, it was just a general observation lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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