Scooby2.5 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Lower your car about 2 inches which isn't much and then special order front and back the same length. That is what I did..... Also for all those running the kartboys and various sway bars, keep the bushings lubed holding the sway bars and you will never have noise.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Do you think Kartboy would ever make a REAR endlink for OBXTs? Huh??? I have installed plenty of Kartboy links (front and rear) on OBXT's. Usually with Hotchkis bars. LosAngelesLGT has a full set on his stock height OBXT that we installed. His wifes DD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Lower your car about 2 inches which isn't much and then special order front and back the same length. That is what I did..... ^That's the thing, I don't really want to lower it. I go at times on slightly rough dirt roads. Huh??? I have installed plenty of Kartboy links (front and rear) on OBXT's. Usually with Hotchkis bars. LosAngelesLGT has a full set on his stock height OBXT that we installed. His wifes DD. . I have a whiteline rear swaybar. About to install AVO 90 mm adjustable rear endlinks. But I somehow don't trust them as much. Are you saying you can buy the LGT rear endlinks and fit them on the OBXT without any mods? IIRC, kartboy website does not offer OBXTs rear endlinks. I'll PM LosAngelesLGT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 We might have used the extra spacers. Kartboy includes 4 spacers with their endlinks. With Hotchkis bars, you need 1 spacer on each side up front. We might have used the extra 2 spacers. 1 on each side in the rear. But we have done more than 1 (at non-stock height). LosAngelesLGT is just the first stock height OBXT that comes to mind. The only suspension mod is the bars and links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby2.5 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I would think the only way you could put these on stock height outback is to rotate the sway bar up. Am I wrong on that? I actually measured the distance from eye hole to eye hole on mine after it was lowered on the BC/BR coils, and came up with how long they needed to be. Then ordered the same length for front and rear from kartboy. My car is slightly lower in front than back so as to compensate for my tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I guess I did not take any pix. But we did nothing special to mount it all up. I verified that we did use 1 set of spacers in the rear to make the links perpendicular to the ground. Possibly Max (LALGT) has some pix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby2.5 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Interesting, I have cobb bars front and rear and only had to use the washer spacers in the front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Cobb and Hotchkis are the same bars. Hotchkis made them for Cobb. But, you are lowered and had "custom" links put together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby2.5 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Yea i knew that about hotchkis..... Outback XT lowered about 2 inches on BC/BR coils. I measured center of hole to center of hole and had tom send me two sets of rears. The rears are 3.0 inches, fronts are 2.5 typically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Same as LGT. 2.5" eye to eye front, 3" eye to eye rear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby2.5 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Yea I don't know why when I measured mine even lowered with the BC's that it was 3.0 and 3.0 on the outback xt I just wanted to measure and verify My sways are level, end links are straight up and down Love the kartboy and cobb/hotchkis setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Good to hear. Enjoy the twisties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec B Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 I am leaning towards the KB endlinks. Running RCE Tarmac 1 coils with Hotchkis F&R sways (with AVO reenforcement brackets) - will the upgraded endlinks make a noticeable difference? Stock endlinks have been holding up fine for the last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaNu1142 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Received my KB end links this week. They'll go on tomorrow. Tits mcgee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Noticeable difference, no. Piece of mind that you wont snap an OEM, yes. OEM will last a bit. Just no guarantees. Eventually they will break. My wife got quite a few miles out of her stock links with Hotchkis bars (I had to test somehow). But, she drives very conservatively (compared to me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobyscoodle Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 They make a difference in your mind. They are also the last pair of end links you will buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutbackXT05 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I have an adjustable whiteline 20mm adjustable rsb on my 05 obxt with kartboy endlinks. Only negative I have is that I am indeed an idiot and ordered front endlinks for the rear and they slightly make contact with my lower control arms (lowered on enduratech coilovers). Other than that I like them. Need to get a front sway bar and rear endlinks now because I still understeer really bad and im assuming that would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Guys, thanks for the feedback. I'll put the AVO rear endlinks for now. I still haven't PMed LALGT but you guys think that one can buy the Kartboy rear endlinks for an LGT, adjust the bar a bit so the holes align with the endlinks and call it a day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby2.5 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 According to sprank yes, report back if you do I'm curious how they work at stock height. I had the AVO end links for a while but they became noisy so I purchased the Kartboys. They are quiet as a mouse and if you ever do get noise just lube the sway bar bushings as that is what I have found. I was getting some slight noises so I lubed the sway bar bushings and now it is quiet again. Guess there is a reason Cobb put grease zerks on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteyjr Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I found the MSI endlinks made a noticable difference in turnin response time. Held out on endlinks for years thinking the gains would be minimal. Boy was I wrong. I don't see why the KB endlinks won't do the same . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Dont get me started on those MSI, LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaNu1142 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Can I change my vote? I installed KB front & rear this morning... MASSIVE improvement. Tits mcgee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteyjr Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Dont get me started on those MSI, LOL. Boy are they noisy and painfull to have . Mine creak like a sinking ship . Oops didn't mean to start anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaNu1142 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 I installed KB front & rear this morning... MASSIVE improvement. Spoke too soon... troubles with my Kartboy end links in the rear as well. I wonder if I'll ever get this right. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/solid-end-links-problem-188535.html Tits mcgee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustangendsley Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 I took my front MSI ones off and put the ralliteck ones back in. I like the non noisy ones. The rear MSI work great, but the front i dont think fit right from day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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