mwiener2 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I have dyno graphs on our dyno with my GT28 using full atmospheric correction. If I dyno after with full atmospheric then the two graphs would be fairly comparable. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimberDHexMods Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 You kept the same turbo just swapped turbine housings? [CENTER][B][I] Front Limited Slip Racing Differentials for the 5EAT now available for $1895 shipped, please inquire for details! [/I][/B][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 no My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05Boost Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I have dyno graphs on our dyno with my GT28 using full atmospheric correction. If I dyno after with full atmospheric then the two graphs would be fairly comparable. ok that works awesome. Really just want to see spool characteristics with the different locations. Basically how much rpm sooner should this location spool the turbo. And wow $4000+ to do this kind of work. Im sure if its a decent gain and you had more people put deposits down for some it would be cheaper as its already somewhat made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I have one made, from scratch, to fit my outback. I doubt this would just bolt up to a completely stock car. I'm missing some plastic under the radiator from my FMIC so I'm not even sure what a stock car has anymore around there. I've also spent at least 40 billable hours working on this so $4000 in labor is a steal. My wholesale parts cost on everything I'm gonna need to do this is in the $4000+ range also. This is not practical unless you are filthy rich or are doing it yourself. I do not plan on producing any kind of kit for sale. If someone wants to come to my shop and have me do custom work, I am more than happy to work with them. But there will be no group buys or anything like that. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05Boost Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I wasnt saying you overcharge. Im sure that it has taken that many hours if not more to plan it out. This is definatly a one off system thats not for everyone. Cant wait for results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I didn't mean that to sound defensive... What I was getting at is that I probably won't be doing anything this complex for customers for a quite some time. http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/ae227/5250Performance/IMG_2783.jpg My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 ^^ Looking great, Mike! Keep the hard work and pics coming. My '05 LGT My '07 Supercharged Shelby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full-Race Geoff Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 mwiener - the pics look like you are using thin wall tubing, and the welds could use a little more inert gas coverage! nothing personal, just a bit of advice as ive seen a lot of stuff crack over the years. Good luck!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 This IS Ver.1 My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 more progress http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/ae227/5250Performance/IMG_2789.jpg http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/ae227/5250Performance/IMG_2788.jpg My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimberDHexMods Posted July 29, 2010 Author Share Posted July 29, 2010 I would have my compressor side on driver side, and hot side on passenger side. Turbine outlet would follow the path of the UP location, over the frame rail/axle/tie rod, and follow the old DP path. 3" all the way. Perhaps 3.5", not sure, don't know much about sizing exhausts. But that's easy stuff to do either way, point is I only see that one way to easily run the exhaust post-turbo. Air filter and compressor inlet can really be run anywhere. driver side is fine. Lastly, I would flip the intake manifold. FMIC hot side on driver side, cold side on passenger side. All short runs this way. Make sense? This whole time I was waiting to see your brilliant new idea for running the exhaust. Well still only one good way to do it then. Glad it worked! [CENTER][B][I] Front Limited Slip Racing Differentials for the 5EAT now available for $1895 shipped, please inquire for details! [/I][/B][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 The other way would have been much shorter, by feet My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimberDHexMods Posted July 29, 2010 Author Share Posted July 29, 2010 The other way would have been much shorter, by feet The stock way? Not really an issue regardless. [CENTER][B][I] Front Limited Slip Racing Differentials for the 5EAT now available for $1895 shipped, please inquire for details! [/I][/B][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 No, the other way I was going to route the exhaust... under the crossmember My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattg Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 Tucked and protected FTW. And a little extra length there doesn't even matter. Props to you, wiener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 I'm gonna plumb the wastegate back into the exhaust and maybe get some of the "catback" section done tonight edit: can't do the "catback", i'm out of 3" pipe. Might start on the charge piping instead My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimberDHexMods Posted July 29, 2010 Author Share Posted July 29, 2010 With your Outback, clearance to go under the crossmember should be fine with 3" unless you run up against a hardened snow pack, but for the LGT guys even if a 2.5i crossmember and sway bar is swapped over, the big pipe will still be the lowest point and therefore not a good idea IMO, based on my research. Opinion being the key. But yeah we see it the same way. Only difference is I would wrap it since it's still a source of heat, granted not nearly as bad as before. *Wrote this with the generally interested observer in mind, not necessarily you mwiener since you already have your plans. [CENTER][B][I] Front Limited Slip Racing Differentials for the 5EAT now available for $1895 shipped, please inquire for details! [/I][/B][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 Who said anything about using a 3" round pipe to go under the crossmember My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimberDHexMods Posted July 30, 2010 Author Share Posted July 30, 2010 No, the other way I was going to route the exhaust... under the crossmember Who said anything about using a 3" round pipe to go under the crossmember What other kind of pipe did you have in mind? [CENTER][B][I] Front Limited Slip Racing Differentials for the 5EAT now available for $1895 shipped, please inquire for details! [/I][/B][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 flat pipe My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Exhaust is almost done http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/ae227/5250Performance/IMG_2790.jpg My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 So I have been worried about my pipes being too close to the oil pan and the oil filter. Then I see this... http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/ae227/5250Performance/IMG_2791.jpg If there are subies driving around with that many un-coated pipes in that close of proximity with no issues, I should be just fine. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deaks2 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 The JDM TS manifold is similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full-Race Geoff Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 mwiener - i dont mean to be negative, please take this as constructive - looking at the photos of your manifold/turbo assy and WG tube area: http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/ae227/5250Performance/IMG_2788.jpg the design, welds and material used are almost guaranteed to crack, if you need material that will hold up and be more forgiving to weld let me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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