WraithAkaMrak Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 ceci n'est pas un linkFixed. Forgot to throw the URL in the tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05LGTLtd Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Looks like Subaru has hit a spot between the Genesis and the BMW 128i, while lining up right next to the Miata Price wise. These three cars are the closest to BRZ is style and class. Out of the box the BRZ has the potential to out handle them and has a P/W advantage as well. The Genesis coupe has a better aftermarket potential power wise, but it will still be a heavier car with a higher center of gravity. If you want to spend the extra cash the 370z is the obvious next step up as far as I'm concerned. If you want more HP and better stop light performance you have the American trio of coupes to choose from at competitive price points in various stages of trim. I hope they don't drag their feet on the convertible model. I'll head to a dealership come spring to drive a BRZ for sure. Although a turbo would be one option to add power, perhaps a H6 direct injection engine would be another option? They were able to stretch the EJ series engine without much difficulty. Will this be the case for the new engine platform, maybe not since it looks like they are starting with a timing chain on the 2.0L FA. All I need now is a hill holder and a center passing light... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 EZ30/36 are already chain driven. Chain or not I don't think it matters much for "stretching". But in case of H-6 chain is better because it takes less space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Saw this posted on NASIOC BMW M3 (E30) 2 door coupe 195 hp (6750 rpm) 170 ft lbs (4600 rpm) 4cyl 2,302 cc displacement 6.9 seconds 0-62 mph (0-100kmh) 143 mph top speed 2,724 lbs weight lbs $34,900 retail in U.S. Subaru BRZ 2 door coupe 200 hp (7000 rpm) 150 ft lbs (6300 rpm) 4cyl 1,998 cc displacement under 7 seconds 0-60 mph 143 mph top speed 2,690 lbs weight lbs $25,000 (est) retail in U.S.The BRZ has the same wheelbase, is 3" shorter, 4" wider, and 3" closer to the ground. It weighs a little less. The M3's hp and torque are probably a little less under today's numbers considering the 2008 SAE revisions, but even still it's pretty close. Torque is down a bit, but the E30's torque delivery was peaky, and the BRZ is said to have a very broad torque range. Auto enthusiast and BMW drivers still lament the backwards direction the M3 is going in and talk about the E30 M3. For the BRZ's price tag, it will more than fit the bill as a great reincarnation. That would make sense after seeing this picture: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2011/09/07-subaru-brz.jpg [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieDriver Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Hey B4, you missed the first line of your quote. Wasn't it E30 M3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonwacker Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Hey B4, you missed the first line of your quote. Wasn't it E30 M3? Definitely. sorry...this forum practically blows goat nuts so im not always on here.Team Pony Express POSTED FROM MY COMPUTER USING A WEB BROWSER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Hey B4, you missed the first line of your quote. Wasn't it E30 M3? sorry about that. fixed! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05LGTLtd Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Someone over at tirerack must be a BRZ fan, it's the only 2013 model subaru in the pull down selector. All I need now is a hill holder and a center passing light... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bskrocki204 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Probably a deal breaker for a lot of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonwacker Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Probably a deal breaker for a lot of people. The lack of other 2013 models on the tire racks website? Or are you responding to the original post in this nearly two-year-old thread? sorry...this forum practically blows goat nuts so im not always on here.Team Pony Express POSTED FROM MY COMPUTER USING A WEB BROWSER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 The lack of other 2013 models on the tire racks website? Or are you responding to the original post in this nearly two-year-old thread? neither. he's trying to increase his post count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dujo Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 neither. he's trying to increase his post count Says the guy with nearly 4000 posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Says the guy with nearly 4000 posts. he's trying to increase his post count so he can sell something dipshit. he already got warned about it once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonwacker Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 he's trying to increase his post count so he can sell something dipshit. he already got warned about it once. Hmmm. That'll be a dealbreaker for me, then... sorry...this forum practically blows goat nuts so im not always on here.Team Pony Express POSTED FROM MY COMPUTER USING A WEB BROWSER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjoe Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 In case you guys haven't seen this yet: http://www.autoblog.com/2012/01/24/first-toyota-ft-86-coupe-dynod/ Then from the ft-86 forum, they extrapolated the charts: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showpost.php?p=120485&postcount=143 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red beast Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 f86 test with video http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-feature/faceoff-toyota-86-and-subaru-brz-20111208-1okdl.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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