PGT Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 so, it also scatters more quickly in fog than yellow. Which was my original point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 so, it also scatters more quickly in fog than yellow. Which was my original point. It still has to do with the way the eye reacts to the different spectrums. If our eyes recepted the blue spectrum better, we'd use blue fogs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 sure. If we had sensitivity to the near infrared, we could drive through anything. Don't try to one-up me on color theory. I am uniquely qualified....in more than one way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 sure. If we had sensitivity to the near infrared, we could drive through anything. Don't try to one-up me on color theory. I am uniquely qualified....in more than one way I will try. The internet's knowledge > yours you damn liberal arts major. Don't forget you're the one who started the whole "mr. smartypants" comment, I just proved I'm not a n00b myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 my fiancee's knowledge > internet > my various archaeology and remote sensing courses..... Seriously, unless you know what a Pantone number is or have used a Munsell book, don't try and skool me boi!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 my fiancee's knowledge > internet > my various archaeology and remote sensing courses..... Seriously, unless you know what a Pantone number is or have used a Munsell book, don't try and skool me boi!! http://www.light-house.com.hk/stationery/pantone2007.jpghttp://www.coloracademy.co.uk/Subjects/Munsell/stuff.jpg intArw3b > Your fiance + you. The great equalizer of knowledge! Oh, and put your e-wang away, stop trying to compare it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 yeah, but I had to tell you what to look for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 As if you're one to object! Hey, I might be blingy, but I ain't THAT blingie! I definitely think that blue-scatter is real, but as Stern pointed out, optically, it's only really a problem if the water droplets are smaller than the wavelength of incident light....which, of course, in the real-world foul-weather conditions, indluding fog, hardly happens. Well, unless, of course, you're talking about the much smaller water vapors in the air, which makes our sky blue. In this sense, what makes us "see better" with the yellow is that our eyes are naturally more attuned to this wavelength - and secondly, that the blue-scatter we perceive instead stems from incident glare, exacerbated by the much larger water droplets. As for Infra-red? Just wait a few more years. I am in the field of biomedical research, ophthalmology, actually. The first steps towards such implants, which gave a blind test-subject near 20/200 vision (yes, this is still "legally blind," but that's where the dstinction must be made between not being able to see anything at all, and actually being able to see), already took place some 5 years ago. My dreams of being able to spot enforcers parked on the side of the road, at night, with their markers off (think Jackie Chan, in Cannonball), should be reality in not many more years. In these days of better than 20/20 vision via laser corrective surgery, better things are just around the corner. <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 yeah, but I had to tell you what to look for So what? I could just google color theory and find more information than you and I could ever contain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 Hey, I might be blingy, but I ain't THAT blingie! I definitely think that blue-scatter is real, but as Stern pointed out, optically, it's only really a problem if the water droplets are smaller than the wavelength of incident light....which, of course, in the real-world foul-weather conditions, indluding fog, hardly happens. Well, unless, of course, you're talking about the much smaller water vapors in the air, which makes our sky blue. In this sense, what makes us "see better" with the yellow is that our eyes are naturally more attuned to this wavelength - and secondly, that the blue-scatter we perceive instead stems from incident glare, exacerbated by the much larger water droplets. At least SOMEONE got what I was saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 At least SOMEONE got what I was saying. ^ Yeah, but I'm bling! <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansGT Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 what is our stock light output? here's another dumb question...don't we have H.I.D. stock? On PIAA's site they list thier 9005 Xtreme as being close to H.I.D.....um so is it a downgrade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claw Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 Edumacate a n00b: Why go yellow bulbs on fog lights? Seems like everyone wants some kinda Blue faked-HID look.. but why Yellow for fogs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundBoy Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 read the thread. Yellows are better for foggy / rainy conditions as they provide better contrast & penitraton. Blue is just scattered more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBLU24 Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 yellow fogs add 3 HP Each! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Edumacate a n00b: Why go yellow bulbs on fog lights? Seems like everyone wants some kinda Blue faked-HID look.. but why Yellow for fogs? Like Roundboy said, the mystery is solved in the thread. Short version? It's because yellow isn't "fake bling." <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abakja1 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 I forgot to show you guys teh wedge bulbs, here ya go: http://img26.exs.cx/img26/1633/img00198qs.jpg Left: Ion Crystal Right: Stock http://img26.exs.cx/img26/2973/img00210vr.jpg Both in. http://img26.exs.cx/img26/5563/img00223zl.jpg closAr! NOOOOO!!!! Just makes it easier for the cops to read your license plate!!! Just received my ion crystals today shipped to me for $44,..good deal to Hawaii,...took like 10 min to install,..no problem,.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abakja1 Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Here are pics of my Ion crystals on my car,..The lowbeam Silverstar seem to wash out the front area covered by my Ion crystals, but definitely a "visual improvement",.. http://tinypic.com/f3yjae.jpg http://tinypic.com/f3yjyo.jpg http://tinypic.com/f3ylft.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team23jordan Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 how do you adjust fog light beam height?? i think mine's aiming way too low Perrin BIG maf intake Perrin Turbo Inlet HKS SSQV BOV Megan Racing header with UP (ceramic coated) HKS DP (WRX) DMH E-cutout Custom 3" catback UTEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Take off the outer cosmetic covers/surrounds. Look for the long "gold"-colored screw/bolt, inboard, upper corner. It's a Phillips-head, and pretty durable, but be-careful as the long screw does wobble-about quite a bit, and you might strip or slip off the head (and either hurt yourself or break your fog-light lens). Clockwise turns will raise aim. Before you proceed, though...... I am of the opinion that as set from the factory (assuming that they set it correctly), the design of our fogs truly is fog/inclimate-weather illumination. It is aimed so far "down" so as to reduce/eliminate back-scatter, which is an effect you can notice easily in denser fogbanks. Aiming the bulbs "up" a bit will get you better roadway illumination, but I'll caution you that it will also mean increased back-scatter, too. So adjust carefully, and keep this balance in-mind. I noted my vehicle position as well as light hot-spot so as to be able to reset to "zero" - this can be easily done by parking your vehicle on level ground, marking where your front tires are, and then marking where your fogs' hot-spots hit, _BEFORE_ you make any adjustments. <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldc2335 Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 nokya h7 70w artic white, and nokya h3 artic yellow 55w...looks better in person, comparable to a Is300 http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/8170/s30100698cp.th.jpg http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/8996/s30100679jl.th.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansGT Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 I found the nokya H7 on line and they are rated at 7000K! Doesn't that make them kinda too blue? The PIAA extreme whites are rated at 4000K. NOKYA Arctic White Pro Halogen H7 (Stage II) 12V100W High Wattage 7,000K PIAA Xtreme White Plus (H7) Halogen Light Bulb (PIAA-17655) Bulb Type H7 Wattage 55W = 110W XTRA, 4000K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldc2335 Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 I found the nokya H7 on line and they are rated at 7000K! Doesn't that make them kinda too blue? The PIAA extreme whites are rated at 4000K. NOKYA Arctic White Pro Halogen H7 (Stage II) 12V100W High Wattage 7,000K PIAA Xtreme White Plus (H7) Halogen Light Bulb (PIAA-17655) Bulb Type H7 Wattage 55W = 110W XTRA, 4000K yea they have have a decent blue tint but they look identical to H.I.D and put out plenty of light...way better than stock they are actually 70w draw =100w output mixed with the yellow fogs they put out more than enough and look great...nothin but compliments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansGT Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I did the PIAA Ion Crystal swap a little while ago and there is a definite improvement in visibility in rain/mist/fog. For really poor conditions, if you do the fog lights only mod you can then just run with parking lights (so your tails and side markers are lit) plus only the fogs so you have no glare back from the headlights. I just switched out the factory headlight bullbs yesterday with PIAA Xtreme White Plus 4000K for a little whiter low beams, and PIAA Xtreme Force 4700K for slight blue tint highs. I don't get to use the highs too often, and if there's any reduced visibility or oncomming traffic I wouldn't be using the highs anyway so no concern about glare. Also, when they're off and viewed from head on the high beam reflectors looks blue, which I think complements the Regal Blue paint. I tried the blue headlight film but never could get it to fit flat over the entire headlight housing because of the bulge, no matter how much adjusted it so gave up on those. I'll try to get some pix up eventually (gotta get me my own digicam 'cause the wife's always got "ours" somewhere). Can you take pics of your headlights with the lights turned off so we can see how blue the reflectors look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Can you take pics of your headlights with the lights turned off so we can see how blue the reflectors look? I'll try when I get home later. They only reflect the blue when you look at them straight on, level with the centerline of the highs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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