Johnny5 Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Xenock, Now I have to find brighter backup light bulbs. The owners manual says they are 921 bulbs at 12V/16w. I found piaa bulbs which look simular, but are called w2 at 12v/18w. Are these the same bulbs? Can the w2 bulb be used in the legacy for the backup light? If not, do you know where brighter bulbs can be found for the legacy backup light? thanks, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team23jordan Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 yellow fogs look sweet Perrin BIG maf intake Perrin Turbo Inlet HKS SSQV BOV Megan Racing header with UP (ceramic coated) HKS DP (WRX) DMH E-cutout Custom 3" catback UTEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxx Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 just put em on my car. Looks awesome & much brighter "Barack Obama, mothaf#%@a! Barack Obama! I'm the president...of hittin' the ass!" -this is not a political view it's merely a quote from a hilarious tv show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Xenock, Now I have to find brighter backup light bulbs. The owners manual says they are 921 bulbs at 12V/16w. I found piaa bulbs which look simular, but are called w2 at 12v/18w. Are these the same bulbs? Can the w2 bulb be used in the legacy for the backup light? If not, do you know where brighter bulbs can be found for the legacy backup light? thanks, John W2s from what I know are interior lights which are totally different from 921s. goto http://www.eautoworks.com to see any bulb you wish to have. Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team23jordan Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 I personally think PIAA's are rip off i had PIAAs in my lightning and it was not as good as people said or advertised this time i went with eurolights.com's bulbs i saw'em in my buddy's cobra and loved it a lot cheaper than PIAAs too here are some pics Perrin BIG maf intake Perrin Turbo Inlet HKS SSQV BOV Megan Racing header with UP (ceramic coated) HKS DP (WRX) DMH E-cutout Custom 3" catback UTEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maosta Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 I got yellow fogs in my car too. I'm using hella bulbs. I'll post pics when I have some time That's a damn good sugar cookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wukilla98 Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 I personally think PIAA's are rip off i had PIAAs in my lightning and it was not as good as people said or advertised this time i went with eurolights.com's bulbs i saw'em in my buddy's cobra and loved it a lot cheaper than PIAAs too here are some pics What xenons do you have...brand, kelvin rating? Thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmanus88 Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 here are some real fogs http://www.blinglights.com/shopbling/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4256 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 sorry, I would never buy something from a company with the word 'bling' in their name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted October 18, 2005 Author Share Posted October 18, 2005 Looks like I need new fog bulbs. I want more yellow, and they are way too amber now....not sure if they started this way, but they are nearly as orange as my signal lights... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 want to trade??? I have Osram all-weather bulbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmanus88 Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 i hope that isn't true pata i know the owner of bling lights and his product is top notch, a lot better than many of the HIDs i've seen people do group buys on within these forums. blinglights's prices are tough to beat vs the quality of product you recieve. i, along with other friends i have reccomneded to bling, are extremely happy with our xenons. u can check out the forum/gallery at http://www.blinglights.net . if i may add he is the only vendor i have seen that carries VHO HIDs and one of the few to have 3000k HIDs, which i have seen in person and they look awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 i hope that isn't true pata If I remember correctly, we looked at doing a group buy through them and it fell apart. I bought mine from XenonFactory - a Polarion kit with Phillips bulbs...I'm happy with them. Sorry if I offended you.....I just personaly loathe the word 'bling' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmanus88 Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 i hate anything that constitutes bling too, but this is a different case which must not be disregarded because of a company name try their products if you ever need a replacement or something, i gaurentee you'll be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 mmanus88 - No offense to either you or your friend, but a serious technical question: Why would anyone want a 6000-Kelvin color-temperature set of fogs? That's biased towards the bluer end of the color spectrum - aim and optics aside, what about the simple phenomenon of blue-scatter, especially in inclimate weather? <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Why would anyone want a 6000-Kelvin color-temperature set of fogs? Duh! It's all about the *bling* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 ^ I guess that, and color-matching with aftermarket HID lows, would definitely be it.... <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 ^ I guess that, and color-matching with aftermarket HID lows, would definitely be it.... As if you're one to object! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 want to trade??? I have Osram all-weather bulbs Yeah, but how yellow are they? I don't know what happened, but even when comparing mine to NALegacy's fogs, mine are straight amber! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 a little less than --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmanus88 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 getting all technical on me alls i know is that they are bright as hell (as their HID counterparts) and a lot brighter than stock halogens. the way i look at it, yea yellow/white may be more usable than blue, but if the brightness is high enough on the lights, then it doesn't matter at that point. such is the case with the 6k fogs from BL. i'm not a scientist and i hated physics, so i can only offer my observations from examples of different light installs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 6K for driving lights maybe, but fog patterns need a lower color temp. Bluish white light scatters in fog, so you are defeating the purpose by going that color. Don't confuse color temp with brightness....two different things. *Bling* = high color temp, to appear like HID's on factory installs. It's just not a good choice for use in fog/inclement weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 6K for driving lights maybe, but fog patterns need a lower color temp. Bluish white light scatters in fog, so you are defeating the purpose by going that color. Don't confuse color temp with brightness....two different things. *Bling* = high color temp, to appear like HID's on factory installs. It's just not a good choice for use in fog/inclement weather. It's really not that blue light "scatters" or yellow lights "cuts through" it's how our eyes respond to different spectrums of light. Our eyes just respond better to yellower light, and worse to the bluer end of the spectrum. I think I'll end up picking a set of these up: http://www.nlmotoring.com/images/POLB1puryelpackage.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 It's really not that blue light "scatters" or yellow lights "cuts through" it's how our eyes respond to different spectrums of light. Our eyes just respond better to yellower light, and worse to the bluer end of the spectrum. Oh really? Why is the sky blue and not yellow Mr. Smartypants ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 Oh really? Why is the sky blue and not yellow Mr. Smartypants ?????? Easy. Blue and violet are the shortest wavelength/highest frequency colors of visible light, and, as such, they scatter the most readily. This is why the sky is blue rather than any other color from the sun's white output spectrum. Blue light doesn't just scatter most readily in the sky, but also in the eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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