whitetiger Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 http://www.autoblog.com/2009/09/30/tokyo-preview-subaru-wrx-sti-carbon-doesnt-make-sense/ Subaru has announced a new version of the WRX STI that will debut at the Tokyo Motor Show. We've looked at this one six ways 'til Sunday (maybe seven) and we still can't make sense of it. But, hear us out. One of the main knocks against the STI has long been that it's a little too porky. But, when you base a performance car on a plebeian chassis, that's the price you pay. Another knock is that the STI – while potent – is just not as hardcore as the Mitsubishi EVO, even though the EVO X is a little, well, less hardcore than the EVO IX. So obviously Subaru's going to address these concerns with a special, lightweight edition STI, right? Well... Meet the WRX STI Carbon. It has a carbon fiber roof. And a five-speed automatic transmission borrowed from the Legacy – no manual. And... suede seats. Yup, that's it. Now, we like the roof, don't get us wrong. Removing weight and lowering the center of gravity is exactly what the STI needs. But, a slushbox? For reals? Subaru says the five-speed auto is there to offer, "distinctive driving pleasure to a wider range of customers." Ah, the old dumbing it down so you can sell more trick. Hey, it worked for Porsche (see: Cayenne). Let's see here, the last time Subaru tried this maneuver was in 2008 with the GE/GH third generation WRX. That went so well that Subaru was forced to relaunch the car twelve months later and rename to the 2008 WRX as the auto-only 2.5 GT. In other words, we just don't get the STI Carbon. Maybe in a year's time, Subaru will be forced to rename it the Carbon GT. That would at least make some sense. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Brilliant Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 So it has the 5eat slush box, and unless they upgrade the 5eat, it will have no DCCD or Front LSD. whats the point?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 It's sporty Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest heightsgtltd Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 and for some reason, has real suede seats instead of Alcantara? I like the idea of a dual clutch auto for the Sti, but not the same 5speed that is in my 5 year old Legacy GT :unamused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 So, they dont want to put autobox in the new 2010 LGT, but they'll put it in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemo Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 So, they dont want to put autobox in the new 2010 LGT, but they'll put it in this. Well apparently demand for the AT in the Legacy is low. If you don't vote Trump, out, you're a bigot who hates america. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitual Line Stepper Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 At least make a 6eat or something. "I for one do not doubt you, dude. Your car is fast and an internet legend." -Gire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atc5 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 I'll take one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Sequential manual gearbox with straight-cut gears please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underpowerd Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 "distinctive driving pleasure" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Do they even state how much weight it lost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueWhiteBoy Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Further proving the 5EAT is t3h FASTARR hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucas569 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 i see some subaru people being jobless soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irimis Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/09/subaru-wrs-sti-carbon-large_0003.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 if they really covered everything in suede like that... any weight savings from the roof just got put back on. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Well it is nice to see upgraded interior materials..... but for the goal of the car it is kind of a step in the wrong direction. Maybe they should try a new SVX with a twin turbo 3.6L H6, and some of the nice interior trim of that STI. Oh yeah and no slush box, either a 6mt or a DSG type transmission please. That would be a nice GT car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacygtkc Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 looks like a honda si interior theme cough gay coough http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/09/subaru-wrs-sti-carbon-large_0003.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitual Line Stepper Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Putting a 5eat in a STI is half-assing it. Its not a bad transmission, but when the competition is putting in a 6sp dual clutch, the 5eat just isnt going to cut it. "I for one do not doubt you, dude. Your car is fast and an internet legend." -Gire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwannaSportSedan Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Whoopie... a WRX STI Spec A. or A-line, or whatever they want to call it. A as in Automatic. Has been around for a year or two already. A carbon fiber covered composite roof... for style points. Maybe to justify homologating it to Spec C or something... Alcantara interior... because if you want an STI with an automatic, chances are you also want other luxury amenities to show off to your freinds. Moving on to other news... there has to be some other news than this.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest heightsgtltd Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I don't think it's Alcantara as they are calling it suede.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katalyst Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 is this coming to the US? i'll be honest....i kinda like it.... haha, but for what it is....not what it's trying to be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserpro2 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 like what IWSS has said, in Japan, they have been selling the 07 Impreza with the A-Line which is automatic option, but not in such a crappy specification as mentioned for the WRX STi Carbon. wtf is wrong with you subaru? =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Putting a 5eat in a STI is half-assing it. Its not a bad transmission, but when the competition is putting in a 6sp dual clutch, the 5eat just isnt going to cut it. I'd call it selling out. Subaru has offered their best vehicles only in MT for awhile now, catering to the enthusiast and not the common man/woman. This changes that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest heightsgtltd Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I'd call it 10 year old technology. Check out other companies, they all put dual clutch autos in their enthusiast models including Audi, Ferrari, etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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