Verwilderd Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 I thought it was if you drove it hard or for a long time??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeFromPA Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 There is no consistent evidence of long-term harm (i.e. within 150-200k miles on the engine) from extended idling, but it is considered a form of severe service on the car. What really amazes me is just HOW MUCH fuel can accumulate in your oil after 2-5 minutes of idling. It's mind-boggling and scary that your 5w30 is thinned out to a 5w20 after about 5 minutes of idling, and it takes a nice long drive to evaporate enough fuel to get it back up to 5w30. Maybe we should be asking all those turbo failures if they liked to idle all the time Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 That's why I use straight 50 weight racing oil Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeislord Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 I warm my car up for 2 minutes or until the temp needles moves if the cars been sitting for more than 4 hours or so. If its warmed up, maybe 10 to 20 seconds before putting it into gear. I also run a fuel system cleaner every bunch of tanks to eliminate some of that carbon I build up by letting it idle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeFromPA Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 That's why I use straight 50 weight racing oil With you, I believe it Not that there's anything wrong with running 50weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboa113 Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 OH NO! not GREENHOUSE GASSES!! we're all gonna dieeeee!! thanks for the info. "The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverstar Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 That's why I use straight 50 weight racing oil But shouldn't you only be running 50 weight while idling to warm up? Once warmed up, you should switch to 5W30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator GT Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 This is based on a long running study I have been performing on sarcasm. gotcha. "If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed." - T. Jefferson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryN Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 I warm my car up for 2 minutes or until the temp needles moves if the cars been sitting for more than 4 hours or so. If its warmed up, maybe 10 to 20 seconds before putting it into gear. I also run a fuel system cleaner every bunch of tanks to eliminate some of that carbon I build up by letting it idle. Just go to a Chevron or Texaco. They use techraline in their fuel. Good stuff!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbone Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 I also run a fuel system cleaner every bunch of tanks to eliminate some of that carbon I build up by letting it idle. The stuff you get at gas stations is weaksauce. If you really want a good fuel system cleaner, go with something along the lines of BG44K. Running that more often than once every 6 months or so is a total waste of money, unless of course you are running who knows what cruddy/crappy gas off the bottom of the holding tanks Also note that most fuel system cleaners out there are noted to be a bit on the harsh side, if you really want to get into the nitty gritty of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeFromPA Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 But shouldn't you only be running 50 weight while idling to warm up? Once warmed up, you should switch to 5W30. No, you should really pre-heat your oil in your microwave and then dump it in prior to starting the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 But shouldn't you only be running 50 weight while idling to warm up? Once warmed up, you should switch to 5W30. That's exactly what I do I am surprised more people don't care about their cars and do this as well. Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-WDC Spec B Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 OH NO! not GREENHOUSE GASSES!! we're all gonna dieeeee!! thanks for the info. Maybe we should stop breathing too. Cuz we do exhale CO2 and with over 5 billion people in the world thats alota CO2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboa113 Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 ya know when gas got to $4 a gallon people started hypermiling.. cutting their cars off at redlights etc. whats interesting is since I've gotten my new brakes I've seen more of a fuel econ boost from being able to stop better than I did from (almost) hypermiling.. I never cut the car off, but I did let it coast down hills in neutral.. which I later found out was worse than leaving it in gear.. heh. I dont do any kind of warmup on my car. even when its freezing outside.. I start it up and go.. the heater is blowing hot air by the timeI reach the neighborhood exit. "The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator GT Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Maybe we should stop breathing too. Cuz we do exhale CO2 and with over 5 billion people in the world thats alota CO2. no no, you're doing it all wrong...you have to plug the cow's arses! They're the REAL culprits! "If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed." - T. Jefferson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verwilderd Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 no no, you're doing it all wrong...you have to plug the cow's arses! They're the REAL culprits! +1. One fart = many cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05lgt5spd Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Your car will also wear alot better if you dont start it at all. Push it to the largest hill and coast to your destination. Also makes a smaller carbon footprint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Racing Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 I dont do any kind of warmup on my car. even when its freezing outside.. I start it up and go.. the heater is blowing hot air by the timeI reach the neighborhood exit. +1 If it's really cold outside ( -50 degrees F) I;ll giver her a couple minutes. Generally I start the car in the morning, hook up my MP3 player, get some tunes going, get situated and go. It sits for about 1 minute before I take off for work every morning. I've been trying to give it a little more time in the morning, but when it comes down to it, it's either I get to sleep an extra 5 minutes or she gets an extra 5 minutes to wake up. Long story short, I'm sleeping that extra 5 minutes. When leaving work for my lunch or at the end of the day I go outside and start her up, but that's about it. In the mornings she's got about 1 mile to wake up before I reach Route 1 and have to give her some real throttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verwilderd Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 ^ everytime time you do this, an angel loses their wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimberDHexMods Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 ^ everytime time you do this, an angel loses their wings. In Texas, it's so hot that the car reaches operating temperature before oil has fully circulated through the engine at start up. This results in a 87.3% reduction in engine wear, and no fuel dilution. So I have posted my slightly wider bore pistons that I use for startup only in the Member Classifieds. Sadly, water also boils immediately too. [CENTER][B][I] Front Limited Slip Racing Differentials for the 5EAT now available for $1895 shipped, please inquire for details! [/I][/B][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 In Texas, it's so hot that the car reaches operating temperature before oil has fully circulated through the engine at start up. This results in a 87.3% reduction in engine wear, and no fuel dilution. So I have posted my slightly wider bore pistons that I use for startup only in the Member Classifieds. Sadly, water also boils immediately too. Sounds like you would want an air-cooled diesel in Texas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Racing Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 ^ everytime time you do this, an angel loses their wings. Good. My job here is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Wow so im pretty stupid for letting my car idle for 10 minutes after hard driving then huh. Can I stop doing this crap now or what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verwilderd Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Wow so im pretty stupid for letting my car idle for 10 minutes after hard driving then huh. Can I stop doing this crap now or what. Nope you're screwed. fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboa113 Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 you're* "The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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