j0ebert Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Anti-roll bars are mostly just compensating for spring rate. With bigger bars you're increasing roll resistance but you don't need to increase the spring rates. I run the Progress 22mm bars with iON springs and I love it. Finally changing out my stock struts for Tokicos next week. Don't worry about end-links until the stock set dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniStiGuy Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I run a Cobb bar and love it. Instantly notice a firmer rear once you install it. If you need help putting it on let me know as its really easy to do the rear bar. OEM HID's Rx330 Retro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtrace95 Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 20 mm hollow JDM RSB is a good complement to the 21 mm solid FSB, IMO. Is the Spec-B rear sway bar the same size as the GT bar ??? Or is it a better bar.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniStiGuy Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 same. If you want better get the cobb OEM HID's Rx330 Retro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhook Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 same. If you want better get the cobb Idk, I've heard of the Cobb bars cracking and/or snapping before. I'd recommend a bar that uses solid construction, not hollow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtrace95 Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 I ordered a 19mm rear Rallitec, that should work good with the stock front I would think, but can always upgrade the front if I need too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowright82 Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 I HIGHLY RECOMMEND PERRIN 25mm FRONT and 22mm REAR Both adjustable - I am absolutely THRILLED with my cars neutral bias as i slide around the autox track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VXCL Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 I HIGHLY RECOMMEND PERRIN 25mm FRONT and 22mm REAR Both adjustable - I am absolutely THRILLED with my cars neutral bias as i slide around the autox track. nice that is exactly what i'm looking for. on the stock bars during auto-x i had a little too much body roll and slight plow into corners, but car seemed pretty predictable. dont want too get tail happy. what strut/springs you running? MAYHEM #122/22 STS NNJR SCCA AUTOX4U.COM XENON RETRO GUIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VXCL Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 ahh MAYHEM #122/22 STS NNJR SCCA AUTOX4U.COM XENON RETRO GUIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaruski Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 I HIGHLY RECOMMEND PERRIN 25mm FRONT and 22mm REAR Both adjustable - I am absolutely THRILLED with my cars neutral bias as i slide around the autox track. nice that is exactly what i'm looking for. on the stock bars during auto-x i had a little too much body roll and slight plow into corners, but car seemed pretty predictable. dont want too get tail happy. what strut/springs you running? I'll probably being doing the Perrin 25mm front and 22mm rear and then a koni/rallitek strut spring combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoostWagon Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 How harsh would the ride be with the Perrin 25s front and back, if I'm running stock struts and springs? Stimulus funding has not reached MA rds once you're off the Big Dig. Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhook Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 How harsh would the ride be with the Perrin 25s front and back, if I'm running stock struts and springs? Stimulus funding has not reached MA rds once you're off the Big Dig. Thx Sway bars don't effect the ride "harshness" so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniStiGuy Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 your ride will be "firmer" but not harsh. OEM HID's Rx330 Retro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fzanetti Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Sway bars don't effect the ride "harshness" so to speak. +1 Mostly decrease the body roll that our cars are infamous about to have... Flavio Zanetti Boston, MA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaruski Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 ug im trying to decide between Rallitek 22mm front and 19mm rear or going with the Perrin 25mm front 22mm rear. Plus side is Rallitek is almost $40 cheaper but the Perrin comes with an upgraded rear sway mount. Hmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sactojesse Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I recommend reinforcing your RSB mounts regardless of what RSB you choose. I'm running the AVO reinforcement brackets w/ only a 20 mm JDM LGT RSB. Stock endlinks should suffice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniStiGuy Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Go with the Perrin as its a good kit. OEM HID's Rx330 Retro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VXCL Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I HIGHLY RECOMMEND PERRIN 25mm FRONT and 22mm REAR Both adjustable - I am absolutely THRILLED with my cars neutral bias as i slide around the autox track. looks like you are on oem struts/springs and oem rubber? that could explain things. MAYHEM #122/22 STS NNJR SCCA AUTOX4U.COM XENON RETRO GUIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaruski Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 any reviews on the Rallitek setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal2You Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I have the Rallitek / IPD set (front and rear). I like them, no complaints. I've done a few autocross events and have had no issues. The handling is very neutral and I have very little body roll, both on and off the track. I'm also using Megan Racing coil-overs, Group A end-links, and AVO rear sway mounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolksey85 Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 looks like you are on oem struts/springs and oem rubber? that could explain things. What would you recommend for a car that (hopefully) will sooner or later get different wheels, rubber, and a moderate drop on possibly Tokicos? 22mm F+R? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtrace95 Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 ug im trying to decide between Rallitek 22mm front and 19mm rear or going with the Perrin 25mm front 22mm rear. Plus side is Rallitek is almost $40 cheaper but the Perrin comes with an upgraded rear sway mount. Hmmmm Some of the Rallitek stuff is back ordered for 2-3 weeks :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VXCL Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 What would you recommend for a car that (hopefully) will sooner or later get different wheels, rubber, and a moderate drop on possibly Tokicos? 22mm F+R? like stated previously you can run bigger bars on oem suspension and rubber, but when you change all that you dont need bars that big because then it could be too much and depending on your tires you could be breaking loose way too early up front. i'm leaning towards perrin 22mm solid adj f & r for now. would like to go 25 front and 22 rear, but unless i know someone with that setup to check it out ill prob play it safe. last thing i want is the front letting go first. im more worried about the winter as i dont think my winter tires can handle a 25mm bar up front. not worried so much about my summer setup. MAYHEM #122/22 STS NNJR SCCA AUTOX4U.COM XENON RETRO GUIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolksey85 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 like stated previously you can run bigger bars on oem suspension and rubber, but when you change all that you dont need bars that big because then it could be too much and depending on your tires you could be breaking loose way too early up front. i'm leaning towards perrin 22mm solid adj f & r for now. would like to go 25 front and 22 rear, but unless i know someone with that setup to check it out ill prob play it safe. last thing i want is the front letting go first. im more worried about the winter as i dont think my winter tires can handle a 25mm bar up front. not worried so much about my summer setup. Aaahhhh, gotcha. Sounds like I'll be alright with 22 F+R with future plans of a slight drop and better rubber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowright82 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 I have the Perrin 25F and 22R Currently on stock struts and springs with Yoko S-Drives (225/45/17) The beauty is that they are ADJUSTABLE - I'm currently running the front bar on SOFT and rear bar on MEDIUM and the car is COMPLETELY NUETRAL when AUTOXing . . . . I can't recommend it highly enough - most people who get 22f 22r regret not going larger on the front!!! I know now that I've upgraded my tires, I'm planning on putting the front on firm and rear on HARD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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