schwartzki Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) This thread is a walkthrough for repairing your broken heated seat in your 05+ Legacy or Outbacks. Start out by removing the 4 seat bolts Once you have taken all 4 bolts out, lift the front of the seat up and you will see all these connectors for the power seat and airbags: Some plugs are tricky to get off, shown below is a particular airbag plug and how to get it off: This plugs outer shell slides back and then it unplugs: Next step is to take the seat out, be careful in this part as you can easily scratch your plastic. Seat Removed: Once removed, set the seat on a flat work surface and on the back of the seat take the screws out: Picture of the right side plastic cover on the drivers side seat You have to work around the seat belt plug, you can get it apart without taking the belt plug off: The left side is a bit more difficult: In from the front there are plastic retaining screws: One plastic screw in the middle: Pic of the left side panel removed: Left front seat cover anchor, there are many of these all around holding the cover on: On the back of the seat, on the bottom there is a stretchy cord, remove: On the front of the seat there is a plastic screw holding the front cloth cover: Front seat anchor, roll it off: Right front anchor: Another sneaky one on the back right side: Now that you got most of the cloth retainers you can peal the cover off the front of the cushon and back, you will run into these below, they are called hog rings: These are what the hog rings look like, you will need to get a new ones and a hog ring tool as well: Edited October 3, 2017 by schwartzki Updated Image Hosting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwartzki Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) There are metal rods going down both sides of the seat To remove, take the pliers and twist the hog rings off: At this point take out the 4 screws for the back of the seat and lay it down right behind the seat. Then roll off the back seat retainer: Then unscrew this screw, which holds the cushion on the frame: This tricky little bugger hides, remove it: Covers off!!: My heater overlay got pulled forward, and pulled a wire out: Follow the seat heater wire to its harness mounting point, undo this tie(its reusable): We moved the wire up to tell which one it was easier: Harness: Edited October 3, 2017 by schwartzki Updated Image Hosting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwartzki Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) Replacement part: Plug for the back heater, it operates on the chain relay, meaning if the butt circuit isn't complete, then the back wont work either: Close up of plug: Old broken one: Yay your all apart, now put the new one in and put it back together! Hog ring tool You will need this tool to put the seat cloth back on the cushion: Take the ring and put it through the metal rod and clamp it to the metal rod in the cushon: The rest is just reverse of taking it apart! Yay your heated seat is working again Good Luck! Edited October 3, 2017 by schwartzki Updated Image Hosting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Holy cow man. Great walk through but no way I would even think about attempting that. Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnJack Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 EXCELLENT WALK THROUGH! Did you happen to notice the location of the thermostat for the seat heater? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwinn Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Holy crap... excellent writeup. I hope I don't ever have to do this. One thing I'd consider is adding some heating elements on the side-bolsters, at least on the seat... those don't get warmed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutru01 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Not that I would ever attempt this, but that was one hell of a walk through. Props to you for the patience. I am sure people will benefit from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jxjjang Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 .... WOW the back part to my seat heater is broken, but i dont think i could go through this.. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwartzki Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 EXCELLENT WALK THROUGH! Did you happen to notice the location of the thermostat for the seat heater? I didnt see one, the pad was just a wire. It is possible there is one tho, i didnt see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrod Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 wow what a pita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyShackleford Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I think I'll just shoot myself instead. (But thanks for the writeup !) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wang Lung Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Looks like a lable on the pic of the bad heater. Does it mention manufacturer? Thanks for the walkthru, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Very nice. Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el5y Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 The most important part That would be awesome to have a nice toolbox nice walk through! Dads tool box http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v365/schwartzki/DSC_1035.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilCamaroSS Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 i wonder if the hog rings apply to leather seats as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemani Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 I think I'll just shoot myself instead. (But thanks for the writeup !) I can probably get through the part of taking the seat out ... then I'll just buy a brand new seat and put it in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outahere Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 ........Plug for the back heater, it operates on the chain relay, meaning if the butt circuit isn't complete, then the back wont work either:............... There's a seat back heater in the '05 Legacy????? I only feel heat on the seat bottom in my '05 wagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkl303 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 its there in mine but very lower back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I think I have the same problem on mine as well where the lower part has the wired pulled off.. man, that's no joke and a lot of work just to get the darn thing off. I do have one question, for the hog rings, is there a technique to make sure that the bolsters are nice and tight if you are already splitting the pieces apart to get them off in the first place? Thanks Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwartzki Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 The two metal rods that run down the seat keep the center part all nice, and if you lay the fabric correctly the plastic cover holders will hold down the rest, the only part that wasn't right on mine afterwords was on the front where the middle cushion sticks out past the side bolsters, the sides of that were funky but normalized after a few days. Just take your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwartzki Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 There's a seat back heater in the '05 Legacy????? I only feel heat on the seat bottom in my '05 wagon. The back is there but its like a fraction the heat that comes from the bottom, it warm when the butt is hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atc5 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 killer write up! hope I never have to do this, otherwise I'll waste a whole day taking it all apart just to have to take it to an upholstery shop to put it all back together LOL Very nice work tho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilCamaroSS Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 i still wonder if the hog rings apply to leather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilCamaroSS Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 anyone know where the cheapest place to find the seat heater element? p/n 64111AG14A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GateTwelve Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Wow, great walk through! I have been waiting a while for someone to post this exact thing, since my seat heater is shot. But now that it's posted...I'm kind of...disappointed. Because there's no way in hell I'm going to attempt this now. So, in short: thank you for helping me not destroy my seat by trying this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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