PLTek Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Hello, Subaru of America introduced a new VF40 turbo on the 05 Legacy GT/Outback. It is completely different in its compressor housing design making traditional Subaru bolt-on upgrades useless. Deadbolt Ent. was able to get one of these before the cars were on the dealer lots. This new upgrade starts the new line up that will look similiar to the current Impreza one. This new model is based on a powerful 18G compressor rated at 39lbs/minute. The turbo should be able to spool to about 17.5-18PSI (normal pressure) by the range of 3300-3800RPM, and be able to support about 370BHP with proper tuning and supporting mods. This turbo come Monsterported and Coated. Leadtime is 1.5-3 weeks at this time. Contact us or order online: http://www.pltek.net/newlegacy-engine-bo-turbo.htm Peter Sz. PLTek,llc http://www.pltek.net tel.508.615.6606 subie@pltek.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Is this a ball-bearing turbocharger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaptan Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 I wonder if COBB will be coming out with new maps for this turbo? Is it even possible to use this turbo with the Cobb stage 1 or 2 maps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th3Franz Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 I wonder if COBB will be coming out with new maps for this turbo? Is it even possible to use this turbo with the Cobb stage 1 or 2 maps? You'd probably want to use a UTEC if you do a turbo upgrade anyway... -Franz The end of a Legacy http://www.youtube.com/th3franz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidiq Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 You'd probably want to use a UTEC if you do a turbo upgrade anyway... Or you can use the Street Tuner from Cobb, comes out March 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLTek Posted February 21, 2005 Author Share Posted February 21, 2005 Hi, I am sure that COBB will come out with maps for a turbo set up just as with the WRX/STI. They have a test car so its just a matter of time before they bolt-on an aftermarket turbo and come out with maps. and of course, with the StreetTuner, you will be able to do that yourself but choosing a base map that the software comes with and tweeking it to fit your upgrades. Thank you and will post later. Peter Sz. PLTek,llc http://www.pltek.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axis008 Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Wait, I don't get it. Subaru of America introduced an upgraded turbo? Does this mean '06 models will have it? Or will they be selling it just to tuners? -ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostjunkie Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 I think the reference to SOA was for the VF40 that is stock on our cars. PLTek is selling a Deadbolt modded turbo that has a bigger compressor wheel that is setup to bolt-on to the stock TMIC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axis008 Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Oh, oops. I didn't read it. Silly me. -ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLTek Posted February 22, 2005 Author Share Posted February 22, 2005 Boostjunkie, thats correct, the new VF40 comes stock on the Legacy GT, the Deadbolt is a modded version of it. Talk to you soon guys. PS PLTek,llc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisn2me2 Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 will this deadbolt upgrade be able to run with stock injectors and stock ecu mapping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avishar Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Is this a bolt on mod? Does it come with all necessary hoses, piping, injectors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLTek Posted February 23, 2005 Author Share Posted February 23, 2005 Hi Guys, 1. The legacy turbos will NOT be able to run with stock injectors and engine management system. The only turbo that will work safely and correctly would be just a standard Ported or Ported and coated version of the stock turbo, compressor wheel upgrades will change the flow charactaristics too much and would make it unsafe for use with the stock parts. ( you can put the new StreetTuner software from COBB to the test) 2. It is bolt on and includes coolant lines, coolant banjos, banjo seals, oil return line with gasket and bolts, downpipe studs, and wastegate actuator. It does not come with gaskets for uppipe and downpipe or injectors. Talk to you soon guys, Peter Sz. PLTek,llc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidiq Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 I'm still waiting for a USDM FMIC solution before I go upgrading turbos. Plus, if they design it right, you can use any standard bolt-on WRX/STi turbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatV8 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 The guys over on ImprezaWRXSTi.com have had nothing but problems with Deadbolts "Monster black hole" wastegate or whatever they call it. 370hp seems very little over what the stock turbo would offer so would make me wonder if the $ is worth it. I would be waiting for something better to emerge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatV8 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 I'm still waiting for a USDM FMIC solution before I go upgrading turbos. Plus, if they design it right, you can use any standard bolt-on WRX/STi turbo. I was about to say that aswell. Wait for some FMIC's before playing with a bigger turbo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLTek Posted February 23, 2005 Author Share Posted February 23, 2005 FMIC are good if you are planning on racing or running a huge compressor on your vehicle, stock or Perrin TMIC will do just fine with this baby and its boost. As for Deadbolt, they are a solid company with a lot of experience. I dont know the specific situation in which someone may have had bad experience with Deadbolt, was it the turbo, was it the tune, was it the customer service? I can or at least could point to threads that make the AccessPORTs out to be useless, I love them. I try to do my best to pick and present everyone with a solid reputable product and I know everyone appreciates that here, Thanks everyone and good night PS PLTek,llc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatV8 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 FMIC are good if you are planning on racing or running a huge compressor on your vehicle, stock or Perrin TMIC will do just fine with this baby and its boost. As for Deadbolt, they are a solid company with a lot of experience. I dont know the specific situation in which someone may have had bad experience with Deadbolt, was it the turbo, was it the tune, was it the customer service? I can or at least could point to threads that make the AccessPORTs out to be useless, I love them. I try to do my best to pick and present everyone with a solid reputable product and I know everyone appreciates that here, Thanks everyone and good night PS PLTek,llc It isnt an isolated experiance. The turbo itself is perfectly fine. It is the wastegate. Customer service when confronted about it isnt too great either. Will see how everything goes when a few members bolt on this turbo. Would be interested to know what gains they achieve with it. What does the stock turbo max at? Close to 370 isnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidiq Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 FMIC are good if you are planning on racing or running a huge compressor on your vehicle, stock or Perrin TMIC will do just fine with this baby and its boost. If you're upgrading your injectors to run this turbo, you better not be running the stock LGT intercooler. Sure, it's got low pressure drop, but it's still not as good as the STi. Plus, the hoodscoop on this car is restrictive IMO, and to get really good solid airflow, I would go FMIC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundBoy Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 i thought the lgt intercooler was reported to be smaller, but MORE efficient then the STI one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadbolt Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 The guys over on ImprezaWRXSTi.com have had nothing but problems with Deadbolts "Monster black hole" wastegate or whatever they call it. 370hp seems very little over what the stock turbo would offer so would make me wonder if the $ is worth it. I would be waiting for something better to emerge. I wonder how much of that is "I heard this, or a friend of mine's cousin's sister's ex boyfriend's dad said that he had a problem." We have done over 150 of these and have had 4 reported problems. 3 of them were easily remedied with different boost restrictor pill sizes, and the other did turn out to be a faulty flapper which was repaired by us for free. I don't see what this has to do with the Legacy turbos anyhow, as these don't need or get the Black Hole Wastegate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadbolt Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Customer service when confronted about it isnt too great either. Again. Can you give me some sort of a link to this or something rather than just half-way bashing us? I think if you look at any of the message boards we are on you will never see a complaint about our customer service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmundu Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Hi Guys, 1. The legacy turbos will NOT be able to run with stock injectors and engine management system. The only turbo that will work safely and correctly would be just a standard Ported or Ported and coated version of the stock turbo, compressor wheel upgrades will change the flow charactaristics too much and would make it unsafe for use with the stock parts. ( you can put the new StreetTuner software from COBB to the test)... Peter Sz. PLTek,llc If this turbo only supports 370hp, why would it require injectors? The stock STI vf39 can make about the same amount of power(Ie Stg2), utilizing the factory injectors, which are identical to ours. Unless this 370hp rating is very conservative, I don't see why the injectors need to be modified/changed. But I would upgrade the fuel pump, as the stock STI one is known to lose a little output as the pressure increases. On the other hand, I wouldn't drive around with factory EM, or even one tuned for the airflow of the stock vf40( Cobb, Ecutek). Maybe I'm wrong but from seeing a bunch of dyno charts and my own experiences with turbos, I've come to the conclusion that our stock vf40 is good for about 320-330hp. So this upgrade turbo, looks to add about 40-50hp, or about what a stock sti turbo is good for. If one was only looking for a mild upgrade;) without needing to invest a ton of money, this is a great option! I would sooner buy this turbo than add a cat back exhaust, as the ROI would be significantly better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc0032 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Does the price of $1099 include a core fee or do I get to keep my stock turbo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidiq Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 i thought the lgt intercooler was reported to be smaller, but MORE efficient then the STI one? Pressure drop is better, and it might be more efficient if you were to chop the STi intercooler to the size of the LGT one, but the STi intercooler is just bigger and can cool that much more air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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