08GTLimited Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Have seen many, including the Subaru STI short shifter, but which has been the best one so far ??? Cobb, Kartboy,......??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubiGT Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 I vote Kartboy. I'm really impressed with mine. I had that Perrin adapter thingy for awhile, teh crapZors. I recently drove my buddy's bone stock 5mt OBXT. My shifter is SO much shorter and better feeling. Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBad Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 +1 Kartboy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochNY91TSI Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 I like the Cobb ss, but haven't compared it with anything other than stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
integroid Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 I have had both the Cobb on my LGT and the Kartboy on my WRX. The advantage cobb has is that it is adjustable. Both are great SS and both have great build quality. Just depends if you want to spend the extra $$ on the Cobb piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubiGT Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 I have had both the Cobb on my LGT and the Kartboy on my WRX. The advantage cobb has is that it is adjustable. Both are great SS and both have great build quality. Just depends if you want to spend the extra $$ on the Cobb piece. Good point on the adjustability of the Cobb. If you don't care about adjustment, Kartboy. If you got the money to spend, Cobb Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaskajoel Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Maybe I am a little too OCD about sounds, and stupid stuff like that, but i've had both the cobb and the kartboy and they made too much noise. What I mean by that is transmission whine, especially when down shifting, and rattles from the shifter while in gear. I moved to an STI short shifter, and cut the length on the shifter with the STS Shorty shifter mod - by far my favorite of the 3 i've tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy7 Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 please elaborate on this sti sts shorty shifter:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneskiian Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Is this it? http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11039&highlight=sti+sts+mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaskajoel Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Yup that's it - without the sti shifter it doesn't do much but give you the lowered look...with the sti linkage it works really well. http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd71/alaskajoel/DSC08424.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneskiian Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Yup that's it - without the sti shifter it doesn't do much but give you the lowered look...with the sti linkage it works really well. What is this STi linkage you speak of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaskajoel Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 the sti short shifter for the 5mt legacy is the entire linkage assembly instead of just the shifter rod. https://www.subarugenuineparts.com/product_info.php?cPath=31_71&products_id=960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneskiian Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I thought that's what you meant but wanted to be sure. However, it has been observed by a few members (trying to find the thread links) that there is no difference between the stock and STi STS linkages. The difference is in the shifter rod itself. Unfortunately I'm going to have to defer to their observations as I haven't seen them side by side myself. I have seen the rods together (FWIW). STi rod on top in picture. This makes sense since Subaru claims the only difference is the shift throw length which is what the change in shifter rod geometry would cause. From your link to the STi STS description at subarugenuineparts.com: "The shifter is made of the same materials as the stock unit." Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urs1ne Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Been very happy with my kartboy and bushings. Great bang for the buck. ^ n00bs below this line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneskiian Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I'm definitely going to add the Kartboy bushings next. I'm pretty happy with the height and throws. I should have the Extra-S fluid in there by then too so it will be a good comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeFromPA Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Cobb STS, adjusted to medium throw and height (not the shortest on either), stock knob, AMSOIL 75w110 trans fluid.... Moderately crisp shifts of medium length, 0 noise when up/down shifting below 4000 rpms, smooth very any notchiness whatsoever even when fairly cold. I'm happy. I might adjust again in the futre. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ed Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 using the kartboy sts and bushigns in the wrx and it's good...nothcy and louder than the sti sts I had in the Legacy... but equally good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrod Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Just did the Kartboy STS, Delrin knob, and front shifter bushing on mine. So far liking it, didn't feel like getting into the rear shifter bushing today but will probably get it tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STiRA Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 I thought that's what you meant but wanted to be sure. However, it has been observed by a few members (trying to find the thread links) that there is no difference between the stock and STi STS linkages. The difference is in the shifter rod itself. Unfortunately I'm going to have to defer to their observations as I haven't seen them side by side myself. I have seen the rods together (FWIW). STi rod on top in picture. This makes sense since Subaru claims the only difference is the shift throw length which is what the change in shifter rod geometry would cause. From your link to the STi STS description at subarugenuineparts.com: "The shifter is made of the same materials as the stock unit." Cheers! So what you're saying is that all I have to do to get an STi short shifter for my Legacy is to buy the stock STi shifter rod (pictured) itself? The linkage is a waste of money? I read somewhere (sorry, I searched but couldn't find it) that the shift rods from the factory have a rubber vibration reducing damper inside the shifter rod. Anyone know for sure on these two points? Thanks for help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaskajoel Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 So what you're saying is that all I have to do to get an STi short shifter for my Legacy is to buy the stock STi shifter rod (pictured) itself? The linkage is a waste of money? I read somewhere (sorry, I searched but couldn't find it) that the shift rods from the factory have a rubber vibration reducing damper inside the shifter rod. Anyone know for sure on these two points? Thanks for help. Having had both the STI Shifter with and without the linkage, I will say it was worth it. It's a very crisp combination. Also, OEM shifters do have a rubber surround, and it helps a lot for decreasing road and transmission noise. The cobb and kartboy had too much for my taste. You can see what I mean in the walkthrough on how to make a shorty STS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneskiian Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 So what you're saying is that all I have to do to get an STi short shifter for my Legacy is to buy the stock STi shifter rod (pictured) itself? The linkage is a waste of money? I read somewhere (sorry, I searched but couldn't find it) that the shift rods from the factory have a rubber vibration reducing damper inside the shifter rod. Anyone know for sure on these two points? Thanks for help. That's what I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverstar Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 OP - you may need to clarify what you would consider "best". It's not quite like asking for the "best" turbo, but it's close. Some people like a little notchiness and don't mind noise. Others want the shortest shift possible. Others are looking a good feel. I have the kartboy and am very happy with it. I think I've heard the stock assembly likened to "rowing a rubber chicken" thats a pretty good description. The kartboy took away much of that rubbery chickenness. If it added more noise, I didn't notice. But I didn't do the bushings. Bushings may add a more positive feel, but will give more NVH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneskiian Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I'm curious as to how the Kartboy (or COBB or...) would make such a difference since you're using the stock "rubbery" bushings and linkage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBad Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 The aftermarket bushings do make a difference, both front and rear with any short throw shifter IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSFW Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 So what you're saying is that all I have to do to get an STi short shifter for my Legacy is to buy the stock STi shifter rod (pictured) itself? The linkage is a waste of money? I read somewhere (sorry, I searched but couldn't find it) that the shift rods from the factory have a rubber vibration reducing damper inside the shifter rod. Anyone know for sure on these two points? I don't know either way about the linkage question, but I am very curious. I have the Cobb STS, which is adjustable, and the thing that limits the throw adjustment is interference between the link and the metal plate that surrounds the inner shift boot. A slight bend (or even just a divot maybe) would allow the link to be raised a bit, which would shorten the throw, which would be even cooler. I was hoping to hear that the STI linkage has a kink that allows it to clear the metal plate with a shorter throw... That said, I'm pretty happy with the Cobb. The factory shift lever does have some noise damping in it. It's in the thick section you see in the picture Goneskiian posted. Far as I can tell, it seem that rod that the knob attaches to is floating in a rubber sleeve. There's slightly more gearbox whine with the Cobb. And every other solid STS, I'm sure. It's no big deal IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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