Opie Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Seems like it's being repackaged, but it makes it more economical! http://www.turninconcepts.com/product_info.php?cPath=1_14_364_1095&products_id=612 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrod Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 is that $20 a quart? It really that much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHole Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 You are paying quite a bit for the repackaging as labor and containers aren't free. If you want it straight from Subaru you'll be buying 20L at a time ($135 + ship from KOP), which is a lot of trans oil changes. Kyle "BlackHole" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeFromPA Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 IIRC, you need 5 quarts for the trans and diff (I could be wrong on that). So pay $100 in quart containers for one change, or pay more for enough to do multiple changes. I think a few people have mentioned that shifting improved even more after the first change, due to getting even more of the old fluid out... Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoozeRS05 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 $20/quart is too expensive, and you get 3x as much for another $50 if you buy the drum... No brainer IMO... EB's Subaru journal - 2005 LegacyGT Wagon & 2014 Forester FB25 (2008 specB - RIP) IG@legacygtliving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal2You Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 $20/quart is too expensive, and you get 3x as much for another $50 if you buy the drum... No brainer IMO... Yeah, $20 per quart is ridiculous! It should be half that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoozeRS05 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I know of two members in my area with the drums, which is nice... EB's Subaru journal - 2005 LegacyGT Wagon & 2014 Forester FB25 (2008 specB - RIP) IG@legacygtliving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrod Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I'd rather stick with redline <$10 a quart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Nice, and only $20 per quart. It aint that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 I bought a quart from them. At first I thought it was outrageous, but then found out it's $20 shipped. Still expensive, but not nearly as bad if the price didn't include shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turninconcepts Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 I know it may seem ridiculous on the pricing, but here's something I posted on Nasioc to help folks understand. In this we have: Cost of the oil - as established Cost to ship that oil to us - as established Cost of the bottles, and no you can't just buy them in packs of 10. So you have a lot of bottles which are still pricey, and the empties sit there until you need them. Cost to ship the bottles Cost of the caps - like the bottles you have to buy a lot of them. Cost to ship the caps - don't ask me why, but the place we found bottles ships the bottles from NC, and the caps from GA Cost of the labels That's the physical costs that are easy to quantify as they result in a tangible items right here in front of us. Now we've got the following: Cost of time to fill and label each bottle Cost of cashflow to have them sit on a shelf Cost to put them on the site and maintain the site Cost to answer questions and emails about it Cost to pack them and get them to UPS (yes, UPS does pick up, but if it's after the pick up time we run the orders over to the shipping center ourselves) Bottom line there's more to it than just the raw materials. What adds on to it is intangible costs. Think of these as where TiC has to earn income as everything else is established. In the end the price per bottle in more than reasonable when you break down what it takes to provide smaller (and often asked for) bottles of something folks have been wanting for quite some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoozeRS05 Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Solid vendor, TiC ftw... EB's Subaru journal - 2005 LegacyGT Wagon & 2014 Forester FB25 (2008 specB - RIP) IG@legacygtliving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeFromPA Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 TiC - First off, never have I heard anything but fantastic things about you. May I recommend potentially selling this in 5 quart containers...this may help lower your cost, your shipping cost, time to fill, and the overall product cost and help to promote people to buy it. If you had a 5 quart container for $60 shipped, I would most likely buy it. Don't know if that's possible. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal2You Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 +1 I think Joe has a good idea. Perhaps a four quart option for the 5MT and a five quart option for the 6MT, though only dealing with one size container (five quart) may reduce the overhead more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turninconcepts Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 We looked at doing a 5 qt container as that made perfect sense to us as well. Afterall, there's a TON more 5MTs out there than 6MTs. Problem was threefold on that: 1) 5qt containers were actually quite a bit more than 1qt. 2) Minimum quantity was the same. 3) Since min. quantity was the same the packaging was MUCH larger which really drove up shipping costs. 100 1qt bottles are MUCH smaller than 100 5qt bottles. What would really help is if I could find a local company where I could walk in and buy a box of HDPE bottles and caps, and my limitation on shipping would be how many I can fit in the Outback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outahere Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 ................Cost of the bottles, and no you can't just buy them in packs of 10. So you have a lot of bottles which are still pricey, and the empties sit there until you need them. Cost to ship the bottles Cost of the caps - like the bottles you have to buy a lot of them. Cost to ship the caps - don't ask me why, but the place we found bottles ships the bottles from NC, and the caps from GA............... USPlastic will sell you 25 bottles (caps included) for less than $20, plus shipping. http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=USPlastic&category%5Fname=14953&product%5Fid=14947 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rony Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 I think if you can get the costs down to where it make sense to sell the bottles for less than $15 a piece, you will have more luck selling them. My Car vBGarage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turninconcepts Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 I think if you can get the costs down to where it make sense to sell the bottles for less than $15 a piece, you will have more luck selling them. That wouldn't be possible when you figure up the free shipping as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheatleya Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 ^great vendor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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