cipha1 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Hi All, I'm looking to get a tune in the next month or so and wanted to make sure i wasn't overlooking anything. My current setup: cobb up/catted dp w/heat shield fujitsubo cbe avo tmic cobb intake w/box If I do not plan on upgrading the turbo, is there anything else I should consider before the tune? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vsick Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 subscribe Are intake and heatshield neccessary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous1 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Look into either a aftermarket EBCS or a smaller restrictor pill. Most cars that usually come to me can't run the boost I want pass 4500rpm because of the stock bcs and pill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vsick Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Infamous1, Is there a cheap functional you can recommend? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous1 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 You will get no cheaper than the restrictor pill, check the stickied thread for sizes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipha1 Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 subscribe Are intake and heatshield neccessary? the intake isn't necessary but would recommend the heatshield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipha1 Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 Thanks Infamous for your feedback. Any recommendations on EBCS? Perrin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous1 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Thanks Infamous for your feedback. Any recommendations on EBCS? Perrin? Prodrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boostsr20 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Just get the smaller pill. Its only a couple bucks and works great for the stock turbo. EBCS is really worthwhile for the cost on the stock turbo. You could look into some equal length headers or porting your stock manifold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vsick Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Prodrive. Infamous, Can seem to find the prodrive anymore...would a GM 3 Port BCS suffice? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous1 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Infamous, Can seem to find the prodrive anymore...would a GM 3 Port BCS suffice? Thanks. I've heard some good and bad things about the GM unit. There are a few vendors that are starting to pick the Prodrive stuff back up. There also was a thread in the vendor classifieds selling Prodrive goods not too long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipha1 Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 prodrive at kingofparts http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83181 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTGT Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 How about this Perrin EBCS, I may pick it up for just $50 shipped This would still be beneficial on a stage 2 tune I assume http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1562598 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous1 Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 How about this Perrin EBCS, I may pick it up for just $50 shipped This would still be beneficial on a stage 2 tune I assume http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1562598 Only if you are getting a retune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Just get the smaller pill. Its only a couple bucks and works great for the stock turbo. EBCS is really worthwhile for the cost on the stock turbo. You could look into some equal length headers or porting your stock manifold. +1 smaller pill. $1.90 and about 20 minutes. My '05 LGT My '07 Supercharged Shelby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal2You Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 I may be in a similar situation some time soon. I thought the '06's did not have a restrictor pill. The stock boost controller will not take certain target boost values? I thought I would just need an aftermarket BOV and be all set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipha1 Posted August 7, 2008 Author Share Posted August 7, 2008 so i've decided to go with the EBCS.... if anyone is looking i was able to pick up a prodrive EBCS from vividracing.com (although i believe its shipping from cosworth in cali) for $118 plus shipping... if after the tune i still have the itch, i will probably go with ELH and a retune. with that in mind, is there anything else you guys would recommend considering before the tune? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous1 Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Nothing I can think of and yeah the prodrive EBCS have went up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 What does the Prodrive EBCS offer vs. going with a smaller pill? My '05 LGT My '07 Supercharged Shelby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous1 Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 What does the Prodrive EBCS offer vs. going with a smaller pill? The short version of it is a 3 port EBCS is a blocking type solenoid. So boost will be blocked from the wastegate while at the same time bleeding any pressure that has been built up at the wastegate actuator. On the stock solenoid a bleed-type system, air is allowed to pass out of the vacuum lines thus reducing the pressure on the wastegate actuator. The 3 port is a tad quicker to respond which tends to make it a bit more touchy to dial in at times. Some say it really doesn't matter as the 3 port is never truely blocking 100%, however I have seen some setups where 100% WGDC was used to ramp up and hold boost in the higher rpms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal2You Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 If I get the 04-06 STi pill, will it work for my current Cobb stage 2 map and a protuned stage 2 map I may get in the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous1 Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 If I get the 04-06 STi pill, will it work for my current Cobb stage 2 map and a protuned stage 2 map I may get in the future? Even though the STi pill is only slightly smaller I would be wary of swapping any pills without control of the WGDC's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal2You Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Even though the STi pill is only slightly smaller I would be wary of swapping any pills without control of the WGDC's. So I'd be better off waiting until I get protuned and replacing the pill then, or should I get tuned with an aftermarket ECBS in addition to the pill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous1 Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Yeah get the pill at the time of tuning. For the EBCS tThe pill should not be needed as long as the 3 ports are hooked up correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbone Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 the intake isn't necessary but would recommend the heatshield Why the heatshield? I don't have one on my UP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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