DrewLGT Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 i wanted an STi but my fiance can't drive stick and doesn't want to learn. so i or "WE" got this car. i never thought i was whipped, till just now and reality sets in... sad isnt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcTec34 Posted January 4, 2008 Author Share Posted January 4, 2008 the LGt isnt even comparible to the sti though. i would find that to be a good thing. wrxs are a dime a dozen, at least a LGT is unique, not to mention the amazing build quality. well, i got a new map, ill post on how it works tomorrow =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005garnetGT Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 yeah, im not ready to get the VB upgrade, too much $$!!!! so the guy from Cobb is going to send me a redone map with a raised fuel limit resume. but i still think ill have the problem. this ONLY happens after i take a turn, etc. ugh. so im stumped. raising the boost limit rev resume fixed it for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcTec34 Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 so... the new map didn't fix it. any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005garnetGT Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 nope, the rev limit fuel resume is what fixed it for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcTec34 Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 did cobb ifx it or a private tuner? maybe the guy i talked to at cobb didnt change it on the "updated" map he just gave me and did other stuff instead.. he was skeptical when i brought this stuff up.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyd2005 Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 did cobb ifx it or a private tuner? maybe the guy i talked to at cobb didnt change it on the "updated" map he just gave me and did other stuff instead.. he was skeptical when i brought this stuff up.. I don't think they changed it. If he didn't know what rev limit fuel resume is then how would he know what to change. I've seen a posting by Cobb and they basically said rev limit fuel resume won't fix it. 2005garnetGT's experience is opposite to that. Also, ecutek seems to think it will fix it. I know that ecutek has flat footed shifting on older cars so they probably are familiar with rev limit fuel resume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcTec34 Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 so should I give up talking to this guy because he has no idea what the rev fuel limit resume is? or does he know but just not want to change it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005garnetGT Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 did cobb ifx it or a private tuner? maybe the guy i talked to at cobb didnt change it on the "updated" map he just gave me and did other stuff instead.. he was skeptical when i brought this stuff up.. I fixed it... I had to wait 2 months for the definition release that contained the table, but I had heard of the table and through logical deduction determined why it was that table, and why it never affected anyone who was stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyd2005 Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 If there is someone with a tactrix cable in your area, they can use that to modify Cobb's rom for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcTec34 Posted January 6, 2008 Author Share Posted January 6, 2008 Christain from Cobb changed thevalue for me. he says he raised the value to "1430.30" does this sound like the right value? because i still have the problem =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boostsr20 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Doesn't sound like it. The value is a boost value and it only changes how the car reacts when you hit the limiter. With the value changed to 12psi or so it should bounce off the limiter a couple times then shift immediately rather than dropping RPM's down to 4K or so. You really need more RPM's to give the TCU that extra second it needs. Its kinda "shift challenged". LOL To remedy this problem I have my rev limiter raised to 7K as well as the resume function changed to 12psi. Believe it or not though, I've had the car in sport mode hit the limiter still. Only a couple times but with the resume feature changed its not violent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian. Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Christain from Cobb changed thevalue for me. he says he raised the value to "1430.30" does this sound like the right value? because i still have the problem =( I have modified the values to the appropriate levels (hopefully), you will need to Reflash your vehicle in order for the changes I implemented in the Beta calibration I sent you to take effect. I will continue to communicate with you about this issue via e-mail. I posted here to let others know that I would appreciate it if I was able to get more volunteers to use a beta calibration to see if this behavior continues with a modified calibration. Please PM me if you are interested in testing this out on any 05, 05.5, or 06 LGT AT. Take care, Christian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcTec34 Posted January 8, 2008 Author Share Posted January 8, 2008 Christain from Cobb changed thevalue for me. he says he raised the value to "1430.30" does this sound like the right value? because i still have the problem =( yeah so when i said i still had the problem its becasue I didnt load that map coorectly oh well. So the problem DOES seem to be fixed with the new map. Anyone else who would like a revised test map should post here!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleaver Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Thanks to all those who've posted on this; I think I've identified my problem too. It only happens when I manually shift my 5EAT, and I had assumed it was a harsher type of rev-limiter from the AccessPort. Whenever I hit the rev-limit it just hesitates, as opposed to the factory stutter. Today I watched the boost gauge and it does seem to "wait" until boost falls to 9psi until acceleration resumes, be it in the existing gear or the next one if I've upshifted. This only happens when I'm manually shifting, not in automatic mode. I'm at Stage 1 with a 12/04 build date 5EAT. Christian, while I don't want to be a beta tester (I'm actually still under warranty), I eagerly await a solution. Thanks, Cleaver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsdzine Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 i'll be finally going stg I tomorrow... will be getting latest updated map from cobb's site christian do i need to get this new map that's being discussed? or is that only if i have a problem? brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boostsr20 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Thanks to all those who've posted on this; I think I've identified my problem too. It only happens when I manually shift my 5EAT, and I had assumed it was a harsher type of rev-limiter from the AccessPort. Whenever I hit the rev-limit it just hesitates, as opposed to the factory stutter. Today I watched the boost gauge and it does seem to "wait" until boost falls to 9psi until acceleration resumes, be it in the existing gear or the next one if I've upshifted. This only happens when I'm manually shifting, not in automatic mode. I'm at Stage 1 with a 12/04 build date 5EAT. Christian, while I don't want to be a beta tester (I'm actually still under warranty), I eagerly await a solution. Thanks, Cleaver If it happens in manual mode then its simply your fault for pushing the button too late and its not a "problem". Although it can be fixed so it acts like a normal car and essentially bounces off the limiter. Either way, you still need to puch the button sooner or raise the rev limiter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcTec34 Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share Posted January 12, 2008 i'll be finally going stg I tomorrow... will be getting latest updated map from cobb's site christian do i need to get this new map that's being discussed? or is that only if i have a problem? yeah go stage one first and then hopefully you won't have these problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcTec34 Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share Posted January 12, 2008 Thanks to all those who've posted on this; I think I've identified my problem too. It only happens when I manually shift my 5EAT, and I had assumed it was a harsher type of rev-limiter from the AccessPort. Whenever I hit the rev-limit it just hesitates, as opposed to the factory stutter. Today I watched the boost gauge and it does seem to "wait" until boost falls to 9psi until acceleration resumes, be it in the existing gear or the next one if I've upshifted. This only happens when I'm manually shifting, not in automatic mode. I'm at Stage 1 with a 12/04 build date 5EAT. Christian, while I don't want to be a beta tester (I'm actually still under warranty), I eagerly await a solution. Thanks, Cleaver Being a "beta tester" isn't a bad thing.. and you're worried about your warranty? you went stage one to begin with.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005garnetGT Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 look, I honestly feel cobb should push this out to EVERY 5EAT legacy, 4EAT WRX and 4EAT baja, FXT out there. there is literally NO downside, and I'm sure some other isolated cases are experiencing this and not really knowing what is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian. Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 look, I honestly feel cobb should push this out to EVERY 5EAT legacy, 4EAT WRX and 4EAT baja, FXT out there. there is literally NO downside, and I'm sure some other isolated cases are experiencing this and not really knowing what is going on. That is the plan, once we get back from overseas we plan on testing and implementing this on all vehicles that exhibit the issues. You are welcome to PM me if you are interested in testing. Take care, Christian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleaver Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Well, I decided to become a beta tester, and the updated map definitely solves the problem. I can now bump the rev-limiter and reacts just like the factory rev-limiter - a fairly gentle misfiring instead ofa complete loss of power. So far, no downsides either, but I only drive my car on weekends. Thanks Christian! Cleaver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticbiker Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Just thought I'd chime in. I just got my AP installed on my '06 Outback XT 5EAT and am seeing red-line/fuel cut on rolling, 5mph, launches after making a turn. Seems like the transmission tries to shift too late for the acceleration rate. If I ease off the gas slightly at 5500rpm I can keep it out of the red-line. I've started a conversation with Christian about beta testing the updated firmware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsdzine Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 are you guys in 2nd or 1st gear when this is happening? Manual mode, sport mode or just automatic? I drive in manual mode (i find i get better mileage), and have not had this problem in 1st or 2nd and am running cobb's Stg 1, v1.16.... brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticbiker Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 are you guys in 2nd or 1st gear when this is happening? Manual mode, sport mode or just automatic? I drive in manual mode (i find i get better mileage), and have not had this problem in 1st or 2nd and am running cobb's Stg 1, v1.16.... I would assume its in 2nd. I usually run in automatic so I can't be sure. I wouldn't think the transmission would drop to 1st until I actually stop, which in this case I'm not stopping, just rolling around a corner. I'm pretty sure that manual mode will fix the problem as well, since I would then be controlling the shifting. Similarly, leveling off the gas prevents the situation, of course thats not much fun. As for sport mode, I think it will work similarly to manual mode. I'll give sport mode a try tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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