groff Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 the time has come to shut him up...i mean, get the most accurate data that can be had for all of the arguments. I need the following BONE STOCK (not even ever had a stage 1 map or any mod installed) cars, all must be manual transmissions: 2005LGT: OwenTT 2006LGT: 2006SpecB: #072 2007LGT: Shelby 2007SpecB: 2008LGT: 2008SpecB: all dyno runs will be on TDCs dyno, date to be determined once we figure out how long it will take to get all the cars found to do the experiment. don't worry about price, by the time we have all the cars, i'll have enough money to cover the cost myself for everyone. if you want to participate, please post or PM me. hell i'll even turn it into a nice meet/bbq/install/etc day too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meltdown07 Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 I'll chip in money to help out with this cause. I'd love to have an end all answer to this debate. Go Cardinals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owentt Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 I'd sign up for the 05 lgt. Just take off my perrin short ram for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvethesnow Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 would have givin my 05 but have kn short ram History does not entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid People sleep peacefully at night cause rough men stand ready to do violence on there behalf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groff Posted August 2, 2007 Author Share Posted August 2, 2007 owenTT got you down, as long as you have a stock airbox snorkus and all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 I appreciate what you are trying to do. However, you have only a single sample from each model year... this does not correlate to good confidence or power from a statistical stand-point. I do think it would make for great reference material, just not "gospel." The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDC Joe Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 If this happens and those of you participating want installs or parts or tunes that day we could do that too. Let me know PM Me for all your Modification Needs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groff Posted August 2, 2007 Author Share Posted August 2, 2007 I appreciate what you are trying to do. However, you have only a single sample from each model year... this does not correlate to good confidence or power from a statistical stand-point. I do think it would make for great reference material, just not "gospel." couldn't agree more, there is no gospel in this debate, its not possible. however this sampling is pretty good considering, and we'll see about getting more cars too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_KT Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 I appreciate what you are trying to do. However, you have only a single sample from each model year... this does not correlate to good confidence or power from a statistical stand-point. I do think it would make for great reference material, just not "gospel." Agreed, and that is why I take the content of car rags with a grain of salt. Their sample base is just as small if not smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
072 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 I'm down with my 06 specb I have no problem being the guy with the specb, I olny bought it because I liked the color combo, never thought it was better than any other LGT Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groff Posted August 3, 2007 Author Share Posted August 3, 2007 gottcha down, thanks, and i'd say you are the typical spec owner across america, there are just some on here who prefer to annoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vimy101 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 gottcha down, thanks, and i'd say you are the typical spec owner across america, there are just some on here who prefer to annoy Don't blame others for you getting annoyed by the evidence trend. I'm just glad this trend has aroused your curiosity enough to look into this matter further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groff Posted August 3, 2007 Author Share Posted August 3, 2007 theres no evidence trend to annoy me. just some red avatar thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vimy101 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 ^ Hey, that's the dancing Strong Bad doing his inimatable boxer dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groff Posted August 3, 2007 Author Share Posted August 3, 2007 ^ Hey, that's the dancing Strong Bad doing his inimatable boxer dance. sorry, don't see it, just looks like something annoying to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vimy101 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 sorry, don't see it, just looks like something annoying to me It's quite esoteric I admit. It's sorta of like opera is to the uninitiated until they learn to appreciate the art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groff Posted August 3, 2007 Author Share Posted August 3, 2007 anyhow, back to the topic, got another car today, list is getting shorter, lets find some more people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobE Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Ill bring an 08 LGT.... that would be one helluva test drive. http://newenglandsubarus.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groff Posted August 3, 2007 Author Share Posted August 3, 2007 Ill bring an 08 LGT.... that would be one helluva test drive. you know thats funny, cuz i actually thought about that, we all just show up to a dealer and request a test drive in a different model and then go dyno them would have to have some pretty good ins with a sales guy though P(O)S: you can bring your new rice burner along too rob but i wont pay for that dyno time, since it won't be able to move the rollers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDII Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 I'll be there, video camera in hand, just to shut Vimy up. Need forum help? Private Message legGTLT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobE Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 P(O)S: you can bring your new rice burner along too rob but i wont pay for that dyno time, since it won't be able to move the rollers WTF? Why do you and Gizzter think I bought a rice burner? http://newenglandsubarus.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vimy101 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 I'll be there, video camera in hand, just to shut Vimy up. So, you are convinced that the data and evidence we've seen to date is anomalous? I have an open mind which is why I began to question the LGT.com orthodoxy in the first place. However, what happens if the observations confirm the trend I identified? Let the data collection begin. Good luck and may no one's car be damaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groff Posted August 3, 2007 Author Share Posted August 3, 2007 dunno why peoples cars would be damaged 1. 2, i'm about to report that post for the use of the word orthodoxy. and 3, no rob i don't really think you bought a burner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vimy101 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Orthodoxy is the proper term as there is at least one thing on this site that is more faith than fact based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groff Posted August 3, 2007 Author Share Posted August 3, 2007 i'm not saying its not a proper term for anything. i'm just saying its dumb. so stop cluttering the thread unless you are willing to contribute to the experiment kthxbye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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