VTGT Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Always planned to put tranny cooler in, waiting to find a temp switch that I can put inline set at about 120-150 with a led in dash, anyone have any suggestion about the switch. yeah I would like to have at least an ATF gauge sometime in the future. So I can back off of her if the temps get outta control. I do not know if a switch would be necessary. A gauge with a warning light at a specified temp should suffice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo427 Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Temp gage would work but I'm havivg hard time figuring out where to put a boost gage have no idea where to put a tranny temp gage. That why I figure a little warning light down by the mirror switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTGT Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Would this ATF (or any synthetic ATF) make the shifts more crisp or actually increase feel and performance on the 5eat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim1969 Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 so what's the final verdict on this? Will SOA allow use of the 5EAT amsoil ATF or will it void the warranty? Opie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wukindada Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 If we can I'll be giving it a shot in 16K;) Mine gets changed every 18-20k down here....... Toyota 6EATS .........SUCK!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waverunner Posted June 26, 2007 Author Share Posted June 26, 2007 this is what i have to show you,one is a bit fuzzy but if someone is willing,i will gladly email this link and perhaps post it a little more clear,it looks fine on my email but when i uploaded it one of the sheets are fuzzy. when the company releases its updated technical bulletins & product application guide i will try to post it for everyone. it says Subaru atf p/n k0140y0700-idemitsu atf/hp This says the exact same thing on the subaru 5eat bottle of transmission fluid,same formulation,meets all specs required by subaru,i can't answer for SOA, but they would be hard pressed,or so it seems to say that this could void your warranty when it is better than what they sell and it meets their requirements too. If you ever had a problem then SOA would have to prove that amsoil caused the failure and that is'nt likely to happen,in the event it did(very doubtful) amsoil would step in,they have a warranty that their products will not cause failure if used proprely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_KT Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 ^^^^^^ When I go home this evening, I'll fire off an inquiry to SOA and see what they have to say about the AMSOIL ATF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06lgtsti Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 OK, .first of all the temps are going to be lower because there will be less friction,the result is going to be lower temperatures,by adding a tranny cooler,(optional) it will help lower them even more. this will not void your warranty on your tranny because the atf meets and exceeds the performance specifications required by subaru think of it like this motor oils are different,but they all have to meet certain specifications so you can use any type of motor oil that you choose as long as it meets the specs.subaru does not tell you to use a specific type of motor oil or else we will void your warranty.bottom line if it meets their specs then it is perfectly safe to use with no fear of voiding your warranty. as far as intervals,which i dont agree with amsoil recommends 50,000 miles intervals under severe conditions or 100,000 miles under normal conditions, myself i will not ever go over 20,000 on the tranny. the amsoil tranny filter is also the same filter used as the oil filter on our cars which means you get the nanotech filter for your transmission too. i hope this helps explain things a little, believe me as soon as i went stage 2.5 last year i am looking for things to make my car last as long as possible. this guy has no proff that amsoil outperforms the SOA oil. The SOA oil has 2.5 + years under its belt with no problems. SOA formulates that oil just for the 5eat, where as amsoil is simply a universal tranny oil. I learned the hardway with amsoil, I had a 04 sti which I had put the amsoil gear oil in the diffs and tranny, and after 10k miles they started making a awful whining noise. Just be careful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waverunner Posted June 27, 2007 Author Share Posted June 27, 2007 This guy is only letting people know that there is another option available for the 5eats,what you use buddy is up to you. amsoil is 100% synthetic,you make your own mind up,thats why God gave it to you,all i am saying is this take conventional types of oil and synthetic types,which would you run a little longer,the synthetic will resist oxidation and varnish and lower temps longer than a non-synthetic and for the 5eats,that aint all bad. I have been running amsoil 10+ years and have never had a single problem at all. I'm not trying to tell anybody what to run in their cars thats each persons choice, you just have another option available if you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo427 Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 I would be surprised if SOA (Subaru of America) has a R&D team to develop there own oil the way thing are so specialize and outsource in today’s world, big manufactures I doubt it. Now SOA may call API or oil company, we need an oil that can do “X” and last “X” long under “X” stress. Then the oil company’s R&D departments would try to meet those needs they may even package the product under SOA name but the patent I’m sure is under the R&D company that develop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06lgtsti Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 This guy is only letting people know that there is another option available for the 5eats,what you use buddy is up to you. amsoil is 100% synthetic,you make your own mind up,thats why God gave it to you,all i am saying is this take conventional types of oil and synthetic types,which would you run a little longer,the synthetic will resist oxidation and varnish and lower temps longer than a non-synthetic and for the 5eats,that aint all bad. I have been running amsoil 10+ years and have never had a single problem at all. I'm not trying to tell anybody what to run in their cars thats each persons choice, you just have another option available if you want stop making those claims. amsoil trans fluid has not been fully tested in the lgt like the soa fluid has. thats why its a universal fluid. some transmissions need dyno fluid and some need synthetic fluid. Im not saying amsoil tranny fluid is bad, its just it hasnt been pruven like the soa fluid has. I read a post where you even have the soa fluid and bg additive in your 5eat:lol:, do you have any problems? No you dont and you wont aslong as you own your car, no matter what stage your car is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waverunner Posted June 27, 2007 Author Share Posted June 27, 2007 Richard, As per our conversation concerning your 2005 Subaru Legacy transmission, the AMSOIL ATF is now formulated to meet Subaru ATF specifications. The attached files are scans of our product selection guide for this year. The highlighted items on the page confirm AMSOIL’s recommendation to use our universal ATF in place of the Subaru ATF. We hope this is helpful, and should you have any further questions or comments, please feel free to contact us. Sincerely, Darryn Wallace Senior Technical Service Specialist AMSOIL, Inc. I guess you know more than them, i just spent 650.00 for a new turbo + 300.00 for a new fuel pump, and right now i do have the 5eat subby fluid in my car,only because i had it done before i knew amsoil was reformulated,in about a week i will have the amsoil in my car. I aint making no claims about nothing,just you have another option if you want,never said anything was wrong with the SOA 5eat fluid, so dont take things out of context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06lgtsti Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 I dont know more than they know, I just know that this amsoil tranny fluid is not pruven. Just because amsoil is saying it meets soa's specifications, doesnt mean it out performs or is better than soa. soa reccomends their atf fluid, thats what Im gonna use, and amsoil may have been reformulated, but it still isnt on the same level as soa tranny fluid. 10k miles when your having your tranny replaced, dont come crying to soa or amsoil cause you have been warned. I will lay you 10 to 1 odds that amsoil wont help you with your fried tranny. I just stick with what works, and have the piece of mind that soa fluid hasnt had any problems. we will just have to wait and see about this universal oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06lgtsti Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 OK, .first of all the temps are going to be lower because there will be less friction,the result is going to be lower temperatures,by adding a tranny cooler,(optional) it will help lower them even more. this will not void your warranty on your tranny because the atf meets and exceeds the performance specifications required by subaru there are your claims to amsoil being better than soa, please until you can prove that amsoil fluid is better, please stop making these "shoot from the hip" comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTGT Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 This thread is getting hairy/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waverunner Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 Not to worry,i aint gonna argue the point,all i was and am doing was trying to help out. never again will i stick my neck out for new info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waverunner Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 AMSOIL ATF is two times more oxidation resistant than conventional transmission fluids – even under the toughest heavy towing and high temperature conditions. AMSOIL ATF resists breakdown in temperatures up to 100°F higher than conventional automatic transmission fluids. It protects against sludge and varnish deposits and helps ensure cooler, smoother transmission operation. • AMSOIL ATF remains fluid down to -63ºF. It provides faster warm-ups, smoother shifting and improved fuel economy. AMSOIL ATF protects clutches, planetary gears, valves, pumps and seals and resists oxidation better than conventional petroleum fluid. • AMSOIL ATF is formulated for extended drain intervals. Automatic transmissions typically are subjected to “Severe Service” conditions – stop and go driving, cold temperature shifting, sustained hot weather driving or heavy towing. In severe service conditions, conventional transmission fluid may have to be changed as often as every 12,000 miles. AMSOIL ATF may be used up to 50,000 miles in severe service conditions and up to 100,000 miles in normal service conditions. See ATF data bulletin (G-173) for more information. this is my last post on this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06lgtsti Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 WOW, For one SOA Fluid is not a regular conventional fluid! I understand that amsoil outperforms the regular autozone brand tranny fluid. If you look at any tranny fluid bottle, they all make those claims that you just posted about amsoil. I sent a email to SOA asking about amsoil and their 5eat speific fluid, I will post their response on this forum. Your post still doesnt show that amsoil outperforms soa! Please until you get some facts, stop posting amsoil advertisments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim1969 Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 WOW, For one SOA Fluid is not a regular conventional fluid! I understand that amsoil outperforms the regular autozone brand tranny fluid. If you look at any tranny fluid bottle, they all make those claims that you just posted about amsoil. I sent a email to SOA asking about amsoil and their 5eat speific fluid, I will post their response on this forum. Your post still doesnt show that amsoil outperforms soa! Please until you get some facts, stop posting amsoil advertisments! I'm still using the SOA stuff. However, IPT, who builds and modifies tons of automatic transmissions for all makes of car, recommends the use of amsoil ATF. I've also had Jorge (RiftsWRX from Nasioc) recommend amsoil (granted he has a 4EAT). He has a highly modified A/T and is a well known and respected tuner in the Chicago area at P&L. I will consider the amsoil for my next ATF fluid swap. I'm at 33K and have had it done at 15K and 29K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06lgtsti Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 anybody will recommend the amsoil who are paid to recommend it or they get discounts on a certain brand of motor oil or tranny fluid. keep the soa stuff and ditch the universal fluid. SOA did their homework on this one. amsoil puts out a universal fluid and expects all the amsoil wanna buyers to jump all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06lgtsti Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 Not to worry,i aint gonna argue the point,all i was and am doing was trying to help out. never again will i stick my neck out for new info. thank god the amsoil idiot will stop bashing the soa fluid and stop with the amsoil love stories:wub: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waverunner Posted June 30, 2007 Author Share Posted June 30, 2007 You really got no class at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06lgtsti Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 i speak the truth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wukindada Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 Wave I can tell you that 2 of the highest HP 5EAT's will be running AMSOIL before years end;):) Any special deals for a bulk buy, enough for 2 cars?? PM me:) Toyota 6EATS .........SUCK!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyan Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 Wukindada, I'll be joining you guys very soon . Mike SoCal Duck Hunters Club - Unit 52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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