geddyup Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 All right I know sometimes I get a bit wound up but this post is only to give subaru owners a choice when it comes time for a new vehicle. The 335i optionless is a great value. If you preorder most dealers will give you a grand or 2 off. So for 36,900 to 37,900 your in. Black or white with black, tan, or grey interior leatherette. Get the 6 speed manual. Now where the crappy run flat tires off and then add Vishnu is a strange name for an automotive aftermarket company. In Hinduism, Vishnu is the god of preservation, responsible for maintaining balance in the universe — or, in this case, the balance in the BMW 335i. Balance has become Vishnu's slogan. At Vishnu Performance Systems, tuning for ultimate power is less important than upgrades that deliver all-around drivability. Moving into a new universe Vishnu has made its name by selling engine-control upgrades for the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution and Subaru WRX and WRX STI. But now company founder Shiv Pathak is looking upscale. The BMW 335i is the perfect launching point. Its 3.0-liter inline-6 engine delivers 300 horsepower right out of the box, and its two turbochargers mean there's lots of headroom to pack in more power. Plus, the BMW 335i is fast. As we learned in our full test, the 335i is substantially quicker than BMW's own claims. Our test car (a questionably tuned press vehicle) smoked to 60 mph in only 4.8 seconds and eclipsed the quarter-mile in 13.3 seconds at almost 106 mph. This incendiary performance puts the cooking 335i in the same league as dedicated performance pieces like the Audi RS 4 and the Mitsubishi Evo IX — cars that don't come close to offering the Bimmer's stealth factor. How it works Vishnu's tuning philosophy is an example of clever engine management. And it's particularly effective with turbocharged cars like the 335i that are already carefully tuned by the factory to deliver measured doses of boost under the narrowly prescribed conditions determined by BMW's engineers. Making more power means adding boost, then tweaking fuel delivery and ignition timing. Doing so effectively requires that the stock engine-control computer thinks all these parameters remain within the expected range set by the factory. Vishnu uses a combination of electrical and mechanical devices to keep the warning lights off, but manages to keep the factory-set failsafe measures in place. The biggest tweak is a magic box called PROcede, which intercepts sensor signals in the 335i's wiring harness. It's designed specifically to operate with signals from BMW's high-resolution crankshaft sensor and allows Vishnu's Pathak to make more aggressive tuning changes than would be possible using lower-resolution electronics. Mechanical changes are limited to careful rerouting of the boost control plumbing and the addition of a small pellet in one of the vacuum lines to control airflow. In conjunction with the electronic controls, these changes make more boost pressure possible without disabling any of BMW's measures to preserve engine durability. Another bonus is a downloadable software package that allows users to connect a laptop computer to the 335i's ECU (just as a real tuning engineer does) and view digital gauges displaying boost, air/fuel ratio and ignition-timing data. The software also has data-logging capabilities and can produce horsepower figures based on a simulated dyno pull in 3rd gear. It can also calculate acceleration to 60 mph and through the quarter-mile. Balance The perfect combination of performance and comfort is what sells thousands of BMW 3 Series every month in the United States. Adding a little more performance without compromising comfort or durability is what Pathak set out to do with the 335i. It works. A 100 pound-feet increase in torque over a stock 335i from 2,000-4,000 rpm makes the Vishnu 335i not only quicker but also immensely more drivable. It never falls out of the power band. Roll into the throttle from 80 mph in top gear and the improvement in acceleration is, at first, only "meaningful." It quickly builds to "substantial," reaching its zenith at "Holy crap, this thing means business!" The sound this car makes is as impressive as its acceleration. The Vishnu 335i has been fitted with a prototype cat-back exhaust system that uses dual 2.5-inch, mandrel-bend stainless tubes and oval Magnaflow mufflers with polished 4-inch tips. The system retains the stock downpipes, which contain two catalytic converters each and the tips look utterly stock. You can get intoxicated from the sound. Few engine notes are more pleasing than a straight-6 with a real dual exhaust. The Vishnu 335i makes a burbling ring that builds to a ripping shriek at redline. We found ourselves mashing the BMW's throttle just to hear it build. The engine never sounds like it's working hard. Pulling from 2,000 rpm in 6th gear, the engine emits a low-pitched garble that slowly builds in intensity as boost rolls on. Once the engine reaches full boost at 2,500 rpm, the coupe rockets from 70-100 mph in 6th gear with little effort. How's she run? In an effort to preserve its stealthy appearance, Pathak has retained the 335i's stock wheels, tires and suspension. With a ton more engine torque than stock, we expected this combination would turn the coupe's 255/35R18 rear rubber into vaporized stench in no time. We were right. Too much throttle easily cooks the tires and careful pedal work is required for an effective launch. Feed in the clutch at 3,000 rpm while carefully finding full throttle; you get some wheel hop off the line but a very quick launch. Sixty mph arrives in 4.6 seconds and the quarter-mile flashes by in 13.0 seconds at 109 mph, 0.3 second quicker than the last stock 335i with an automatic transmission that we tested. And that's quicker than any stock Evo or Audi RS 4 we've ever tested. Combine this acceleration with the 335i's potent braking (114 feet from 60 mph) and handling numbers (0.88 g on the skid pad, 68.4 mph through the slalom) and the Vishnu coupe is capable of beating all but the twistiest roads into submission. This car also did a real number on the Dynojet chassis dyno at MD Automotive in Westminster, California. Peak wheel horsepower increased 75 hp from 265 hp to 340 hp over the privately owned BMW we tested in our first full test of the 335i coupe. But the real story here is the torque increase, which makes the 335i substantially more drivable than before. As we mentioned, the torque peaks at 390 lb-ft — 114 lb-ft more than stock. The margin decreases toward redline, although there's still a 50 lb-ft surplus. The bottom line During our test, the Vishnu 335i had 11,000 miles on the odometer, an indication of the substantial test mileage it had racked up in only about two months of development time. Vishnu currently has about 30 beta versions of the system in the hands of customers. Full production versions are available now for about $1,300. Outright speed hasn't been the primary goal with the Vishnu 335i and it also isn't the primary accomplishment. The 0.3-second improvement in quarter-mile time over the stock 335i isn't as impressive as the torque-rich driving experience. It's hard to argue with almost 400 lb-ft of torque at the wheels for less than the cost of a decent set of wheels. If you want affordable spped and power on a base car with only a tune this is the car. Dinan has his own coming which should trump this. I know you guys love power and this is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight705 Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 wtf....... this sounds like a ad more than a post...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc0032 Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Gettyup recent captured on film... http://www.redstarnaturalliquidsoaps.co.uk/soap-7.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDII Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 And now back to your regularly scheduled program.... Need forum help? Private Message legGTLT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geddyup Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 yada yada the point is the car eats 100k card for under 40k Get one, get the tune, go to the track and school time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc0032 Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 My LGT will eat you for under 40k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geddyup Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 hey microman glad to see you made it home safe. When the wagon comes out the exile will be 10 fold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrok Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 I don't think I would have bought the LGT if I could have afforded the 335i (if it was out at the time). But even now, I can't afford it. My 06 LGT stickered at 31k. I got it for 26,500. So 37k if the dealer is nice, get me a 300hp BMW. Or for 26,500 (28% less), I can get my LGT and put a couple grand into it and it will handle closely with a BMW and be as fast or faster. Granted, the rattles are what piss me off in my Subaru, but are losing rattles worth 39% more? I don't think so. When my wallet can afford it, I am sure I will be in a BMW (or better yet, a cts-v) Oh, and there is just something that erks me about buying a 3-series. It's a poor mans BMW. It's like seeing college kids driving C-series MB's. I don't want to be a poser, which is what most 3-series owners are! Step up to the M5! Now thats a car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geddyup Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 0-175 come on the thing will die at 110 still a 4 banger now go to bed and put your head under the pillow. Once again a great replacement to those getting RID of their subaru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrok Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 It tops out at 155, electronically limited. Not sure how you would get it to 175. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geddyup Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 Barrok- you will be there soon enough. Just a 1300 mod and everything else stock and you have a 911 eater. I saw a few in slc last week when I raced through. Should have looked you up and took a lap around the city. Hopefully a few smart people will see the post and plant the seed. I cannot save the rest they are already lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geddyup Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 With the custom software top speed goes to power max not 155 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrok Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Hah, I might take you up on that. I doubt the dealership will let a poor married college kid like me take one for a spin, but I wouldn't mind taking a cruise with ya! Just get me some discounts on pella windows! haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 This thread is pointless. Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red beast Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 coworker has a 330xi 18" rims with runflats drives from nyc now he has three new tires at $1,000 what a wonderful car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geddyup Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 This thread has many points to those with an open mind. For a tiny close minded person it may be pointless. The review by edmunds has merit as the car does for people shopping for cars. If you do not like it do not read it and move on. I also heard that there are several cheap mods coming down the road keeping the factory up/down. A ton of subaru moddrs are haunted by leaks from those mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geddyup Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 The run flats suck big time, Looking for some new love on the wheels when the tune comes around. You would think bmw would know better but with the cost of roadside assistance it penciled out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VXCL Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 mmmdef went lgt -> si -> 335i car is nice and hauls on highway MAYHEM #122/22 STS NNJR SCCA AUTOX4U.COM XENON RETRO GUIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NutBucket Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 coworker has a 330xi 18" rims with runflats drives from nyc now he has three new tires at $1,000 what a wonderful car My coworker with a Z4 ran into the same problem. The tire size is impossible to find....the run flats always get sold to BMW dealers first and even then they're on backorder. He said screw that and is taking his chances with normal tires. Given the choice, i'll wait for AAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Pimp Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 http://blah.de/bilder/blah-postkarte-20.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosco Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 i'll bet that bimmer won't beat this bosco Stay Stock Stay Happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Gettyup recent captured on film... http://www.redstarnaturalliquidsoaps.co.uk/soap-7.jpg http://blah.de/bilder/blah-postkarte-20.jpg I love it! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 You guys REALLY better be careful in here... geedyup is liable to invite one of you to JHAF! He means BUSINESS when JHAF come up. Be nice, play nice, and pretend to like him, it's better for all of us. Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 i'll bet that bimmer won't beat this bosco No, but if you need seating for four, with plenty of power, good handling, and good brakes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 No, but if you need seating for four, with plenty of power, good handling, and good brakes....then you'll be SOL while your bmw spends a good deal of its life in the shop. fix0red [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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