BigT Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Will tuner lugs work on our stockers? When I had my rims installed the stupid shop threw most of my lugs out. I do have a full set of tuner lugs though. Gorilla I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaho8930 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Will tuner lugs work on our stockers? When I had my rims installed the stupid shop threw most of my lugs out. I do have a full set of tuner lugs though. Gorilla I think. yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nKoan Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 The chamfer is different. Its doable, but I wouldn't recommend it personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axis008 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 I read somewhere not to use aftermarket lug nuts on stock wheels. Not sure where I read it from so take it with a grain of salt. -ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fweasel Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 They'll work, the bigger concern is are they the same thread pitch... 1.25 or 1.5 ignore him, he'll go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msb175 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 i have gorilla lugs i got when i had rota's. i'm using them now with the spec b wheels i have. fits and works fine. the curvature where the lug meets the wheel fit snugly as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meier motor sports Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 what do u mean they threw out your lug nuts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwannaSportSedan Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I have McGard Spline-drive lugs, with conical bearing seats. (the cone seat can spin separately from the threaded/splined part of the lug. The seat stays stationary, and engaged when you tighten the lug...) I haven't had any problems so far. the lugs are narrower than stock, but they seem to be engaged just fine. conical seats should be fairly interchangeable. I believe they are almost all cut at a fairly standard angle. different shaped seats may not be. some use hemispherical seats (rounded engagement surfaces) or flange seats, or other things, but those are usually manufacturer specific, and aftermarket wheels for those cars usually revert to use conical seat lug nuts, unless the car typically uses lug bolts. (bolt goes through the wheel into the hub, rather than stud extending from the hub) On a car with bolts, or non-conical seat lug nuts, I can see why they wouldn't be interchangeable. but I would think that most conical seat arrangements would be, including subaru. But I could be less than completely informed. And as was said, make sure whatever you use is the right thread pitch. A lot more contact area and friction on the threads than on the wheel lug seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigT Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 I have McGard Spline-drive lugs, with conical bearing seats. (the cone seat can spin separately from the threaded/splined part of the lug. The seat stays stationary, and engaged when you tighten the lug...) I haven't had any problems so far. the lugs are narrower than stock, but they seem to be engaged just fine. conical seats should be fairly interchangeable. I believe they are almost all cut at a fairly standard angle. different shaped seats may not be. some use hemispherical seats (rounded engagement surfaces) or flange seats, or other things, but those are usually manufacturer specific, and aftermarket wheels for those cars usually revert to use conical seat lug nuts, unless the car typically uses lug bolts. (bolt goes through the wheel into the hub, rather than stud extending from the hub) On a car with bolts, or non-conical seat lug nuts, I can see why they wouldn't be interchangeable. but I would think that most conical seat arrangements would be, including subaru. But I could be less than completely informed. And as was said, make sure whatever you use is the right thread pitch. A lot more contact area and friction on the threads than on the wheel lug seats. Ok WOW I didn't understand anything you said, and I had no idea there was so much to know about lug nuts. Guess I've got some more research to do, or experiments. They threw them out because they are jackasses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwannaSportSedan Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Do the lug nuts, and the wheels look like they have cone seats? The end of the lug nuts with the threaded hole should look like a cone shape The wheel lug holes should look like they have a cone dish to them... Then they should be ok. theoretically there could be different angles to the cone shapes from wheel to lug nut, but I think it is pretty likely that they are the same. I have had two sets of tuner lugs on my Legacy both work with the OE wheels. Just make sure they thread on easily (right thread pitch) and get torqued down evenly, and re-check them after 50 miles, and periodically after that. Chances are, they'll be fine, otherwise exchange them for ones that are the correct specification for Subarus or Nissans. (same lug nut size, but the studs are spaced differently, so the wheels themselves aren't interchangeable.) Someone correct me if I am wrong, but ALL Subaru Models use 12mm x 1.25 lug nuts. The ones I have are the black lugs pictured just below. The silver bit is the seat, and on these particular lugs, the black main part of the lug turns independently of the silver seat, when it presses on the wheel. Most lugs, though are just one piece, and the cone seat section spins in the wheel lug hole until it is tightened. http://www.subydude.com/osc/product_info.php/cPath/220_21_92/products_id/43 http://www.subydude.com/images/prod/products/Wheelaccessories/500/500/McGard_Compare_01.jpg - Stock lugs have a rounded seat and some have seat angles that are not the same as the ROTA which means SMALL contact point .(see illustration below) http://www.subydude.com/images/prod/products/misc/round_edge.JPG - THESE lugs have the same taper as rota lugs which means LARGER contact point. (see below) http://www.subydude.com/images/prod/products/misc/flat_edge.JPG As long as your wheels look like the bottom angle, and your lugs look like the top angle, not the top round seat, and the threads fit, you should be in business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilh Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 How about you just make the shop pay for new stock ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownBoy Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 How about you just make the shop pay for new stock ones. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL PAALO Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 nissan and suby use a conical seat very similar to aftermarket tuner lugs so it's generally np. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigT Posted March 26, 2007 Author Share Posted March 26, 2007 Installed them friday and no problem yet. They seem to be working well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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