ERLoft Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Maybe next time you can jump start your car like a genius... http://www.metacafe.com/watch/427774/jump_start_car_like_a_genius/ WTF? I'd like to see that. Guess I should make sure to carry a wool cap. 2013 █S4 - Glacier White - DSG - B&O - Tech Package - Sports Diff - Napa - RS4 Grille - Stasis Exhaust - APR Intake - KW Variant 1 - Stern Control Arms - CR-15 - Stasis RSB - Moog Endlinks - PC Hyper Black Peelers - Deval Front Lip - ECS Rear Diffuser - Carbon Imports Ducktail - ECS Mirror Caps - Relak Paddle Extensions - Autostyle Floor Mats - LED Interior - V1 - Blackvue DR900s - [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azca Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 lmao Maybe next time you can jump start your car like a genius... http://www.metacafe.com/watch/427774/jump_start_car_like_a_genius/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcwiggin Posted March 12, 2007 Author Share Posted March 12, 2007 The car is at the dealer.. I told them it was having "Electrical Problems" They are still trying to figure out what's wrong with it. There really weren't many sparks but the cables got hot.. but nothing that really seemed out of the ordinary. When I realized what had happened I was actually surprised more bad things, noises, or smells didn't happen. Next time I ever have this problem I am just going to be a man about it and roll start the car. (Yay manual transmission!) I will keep you posted on what the dealer says.. I actually feel kinda bad because I am guessing that they are likely as confused as I am as to what exactly is broken. I am guessing the ECU is dead though like you guys have said.. I am just wondering if the ABS, Air Bag, Stereo, Climate Control... ECU are all dead too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxerGT2.5 Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 The car is at the dealer.. I told them it was having "Electrical Problems" They are still trying to figure out what's wrong with it. There really weren't many sparks but the cables got hot.. but nothing that really seemed out of the ordinary. When I realized what had happened I was actually surprised more bad things, noises, or smells didn't happen. Next time I ever have this problem I am just going to be a man about it and roll start the car. (Yay manual transmission!) I will keep you posted on what the dealer says.. I actually feel kinda bad because I am guessing that they are likely as confused as I am as to what exactly is broken. I am guessing the ECU is dead though like you guys have said.. I am just wondering if the ABS, Air Bag, Stereo, Climate Control... ECU are all dead too. You'll usually get one big a$$ spark the minute the clamp touches the post. OBAMA......One Big Ass Mistake America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godwhomismike Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 You'll usually get one big a$$ spark the minute the clamp touches the post. +1 and it is usually as bright as a welding spark :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opie Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 When you say you checked the main fuses (the big ones under the fuse cover by the battery) did you uses a multimeter and check for voltage on each side of the fuse or did you check them visually? If you only checked them visually, I'd recheck them with a multimeter if I were you. 99.9% of the time when you do that (reverse polarity) you blow that main fuse and nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcwiggin Posted March 12, 2007 Author Share Posted March 12, 2007 I did not use a multi meter... I did a thorough visual inspection it would be nice if its just the main fuse that is blown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Good thing you didn't post this on Nastycocks, someone would have snitched on you to the dealer by now Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schneiks Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 my idiot friend did this (reverse the jumper cables) to my 2006 GT a few months back because my other idiot friend left the reading light on when I let him borrow it.. I called Subaru Roadside assitance and we had to put it on a flat bed and take it to the dealer. When I got there they said something along the line of the "main fuse" being blown. It ended up costing me about $26 for the fuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smushybrain Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 A friend did this to my old POS Ford Escort back in the day... he put one of the ends of the jumper cables to the radiator support and the resulting sparks did look like welding sparks. There was a little burnt paint and what looked like welding spatter on the radiator support... The car was fine aside from the already dead alternator, though... How did you make out mcwiggin? Did you hear back from the dealer yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMac1203 Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Wondering the same as well. Hope it works out for you! Need a CarPC bezel? PM me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motoracer Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 go into the main fusebox in engine compartment and you should see a main fuse (some call it a jumper) it should be 100A w/ clear window and 2 small phillips screws, one on each side, securing it to the fuse box. salemen do it all the time at my dealership, always the main fuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 This is one of the reasons that there is a main fuse...... Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motoracer Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 ^ i tried to tell him that in the 4th or 5th post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 ^ i tried to tell him that in the 4th or 5th post I understand, keep the faith Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcwiggin Posted March 13, 2007 Author Share Posted March 13, 2007 No word yet from the dealer... I checked the main fuse visually.. there was no noticeable disconnect. I figured seeing as it is rather large and 100amps if it were to blow it would like be something visual. I will post as soon as I hear from the dealer.. Hopefully I will hear from them in the AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcwiggin Posted March 13, 2007 Author Share Posted March 13, 2007 I heard back from the dealer.. Apparently its just a fuse somewhere in the ignition system. The guy on the phone called it a Maxi-Fuse. They believe the reason my battery died in the first place had to do with a recalled part. He didn't say what part but I am sure I will find out when I get the car back later today. They just wanted to run some diagnostics to make sure everything in car is okay. In addition they are giving me a new battery. All in all not to bad seeing as this is costing me 0 dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERLoft Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Glad to hear everything's getting take care of, with only a day or two without your LGT! 2013 █S4 - Glacier White - DSG - B&O - Tech Package - Sports Diff - Napa - RS4 Grille - Stasis Exhaust - APR Intake - KW Variant 1 - Stern Control Arms - CR-15 - Stasis RSB - Moog Endlinks - PC Hyper Black Peelers - Deval Front Lip - ECS Rear Diffuser - Carbon Imports Ducktail - ECS Mirror Caps - Relak Paddle Extensions - Autostyle Floor Mats - LED Interior - V1 - Blackvue DR900s - [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godwhomismike Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Just curious, when you attached them - did you get something that looked like this? http://www.bbcustomfabricating.com/images/welding.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motoracer Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 I heard back from the dealer.. Apparently its just a fuse somewhere in the ignition system. The guy on the phone called it a Maxi-Fuse. They believe the reason my battery died in the first place had to do with a recalled part. He didn't say what part but I am sure I will find out when I get the car back later today. They just wanted to run some diagnostics to make sure everything in car is okay. In addition they are giving me a new battery. All in all not to bad seeing as this is costing me 0 dollars. good thing they took care of you but fuse in the igniton system a what a maxi pad is that what they use to jump the wires:lol: what dealership is this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcwiggin Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 The dealership is in Western NY. I won't say which one till I get my car back. Apparently there is a recall on the ECM's for my model. The issues has to do with the ECM leaving the main fan indefinitely or sometimes just turning the fan on at random times even when the car is not in use. Usually they fix this with a software update and replacement of the fan relay but the dealer is ordering me a new ECM overnight just to be sure everything is okay. They are also replacing my car battery free of charge. All in all I have been really impressed with the fact that all of this is at no cost to me. Hopefully I should be getting my car back sometime tomorrow (assuming the ECM gets in tomorrow.) Of course I will keep you posted. As far as the welding spark.. nope didn't look like that at all. Just a normal spark.. Maybe a little bigger than normal but nothing that seem crazy big. I think in order to get a big spark like that you would need something that is high voltage. Car's are relatively low voltage but can be very high amperage. (Starting you car = ~500 Amps at 12 volts || Power to the wal socket in your house = ~15Amps at 120 volts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinlsb Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 So it looks like the ECM blew trying to protect the MAXI fuse, "Belief does not make truth. Evidence makes truth. And belief does not make evidence." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motoracer Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 The dealership is in Western NY. I won't say which one till I get my car back. Apparently there is a recall on the ECM's for my model. The issues has to do with the ECM leaving the main fan indefinitely or sometimes just turning the fan on at random times even when the car is not in use. Usually they fix this with a software update and replacement of the fan relay but the dealer is ordering me a new ECM overnight just to be sure everything is okay. They are also replacing my car battery free of charge. All in all I have been really impressed with the fact that all of this is at no cost to me. Hopefully I should be getting my car back sometime tomorrow (assuming the ECM gets in tomorrow.) Of course I will keep you posted. As far as the welding spark.. nope didn't look like that at all. Just a normal spark.. Maybe a little bigger than normal but nothing that seem crazy big. I think in order to get a big spark like that you would need something that is high voltage. Car's are relatively low voltage but can be very high amperage. (Starting you car = ~500 Amps at 12 volts || Power to the wal socket in your house = ~15Amps at 120 volts) yeah thats a common recall that i've been seeing a lot of. make sure you bring ALL of your keys in cause when they install the new ECU you will have a new imobilizer code also, so your gonna have to have ALL of your keys reprogramed. damn service writers forget to tell customers all the time and they get pissed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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