chucktoo Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Well I did it - ordered a Factory Five Challnge race car kit. I decided not to race spec class but have a car that meets all SCCA and NASA CCR requirements. Given I will never drive well enough to be competative why not just go out there and have fun . I can point by with the best of them. Got my SCCA regional liscense to play - something out of all the training. FFR will finish my car kit by Dec 30 and it will go to MPE racing to get built into a car. They are finishing up a FFR roadster now and it looks awsome. They are in a shop that does custom brakes and can powder coat anything you want any color.It is something to be able almost completely to pick what you want in a car. They are building me 13" disk brakes all around with 2400 lb and 275/315 R tires it will stop. Power House Machine is building me a 331 cu in 4 bolt main engine with trick flow heads. This same block is used in 1000+ hp dragsters. We are putting a Kenne Bell supercharger on it - make full boost by 2000 rpms. With a 5 min pulley change can have from 6 to 18 psi of boost with no lag. Pick the gas - pick the pulley - pick the map [ they have a piggy back like UTEC] and make more power than I can possible use . A simular enginre made ~700 whp with C-16 race gas. It can be dialed down to 300 whp or so just as easilly. Now in a 2400 lb car that is going to be fast. No problem getting a 600 ft-lb close ratio transmission to hold the power. What ever power I feel I can drive safely I can have . I will have to become a master of easy gas as well as easy brake Bondurant taught me. I rode with a past national champion FFR spec racer and the thing that impressed me was how smooth he was and how little brake he used. It is all about keeping the car ballanced. It also convinced my not to compete for points. It is going to be interesting to see which car I get first. It is a lot easier to build a race car - no creature comforts at all ,nothing but frame and drive train with some cosmetic plastics wrapped around it. I probably should have done this in the first place . If you want to race get a race car. I will have to run in Super Unlimited so being competative is a joke , but it will be a lot of fun. The main thing is to be safe and have fun. Oh- by the way it is street legal and should pass emissions. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/chucktoo/grad2a.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/chucktoo/grad5a.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWDxBOOST Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 damn balla! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewScooby Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Congratulations! I have been a fan of Factory Five since they started and as soon as I get my wife an inground swimming pool I will be ordering one. I have put 5000 miles or so on my dads 440whp Cobra replica over the last 10 years and they are a blast! Your a lucky Man, Chucktoo! Get some sticky rubber, my dad runs hand carved goodyear eagle wet weather slicks on the street. Cornering and acceleration are NUTS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTsleeper Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Sweet, but will it go in the snow:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondas123 Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 WOW, impressive. Any pics of what this should look like? Congrats. - The Mortgage Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aczwild Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 So how can I get to play like you get to play? Any advice for me before I get outta college? Post pics when you get them! JDM'd All to hell Thanks Jimmy @ Hkc-Speed.com! RIP Coxx & Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewScooby Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Chucktoo, you might want check out http://www.corner-carvers.com/ and search for Bart's Cobra. It is the best track built Factory Five I have ever seen. magnesium wheels, dry sump oiling, aluminum block, bad to the bone. Many pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Awesome! You should enjoy it a lot. Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nsaglibene Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Awesome, can I have your Outback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucktoo Posted December 16, 2005 Author Share Posted December 16, 2005 Thanks for all the support - next Summer is going to be fun. one of these http://www.factoryfive.com/table/ffrkits/speccar/challenge.html one of these http://www.dartheads.com/fordsb.aspx one of these http://www.trickflow.com/product/fordcylinderheads/twisted_wedge/pr_twisted.asp one of these http://www.kennebell.net/superchargers/ford/blowzilla-flowzilla/blowzilla-flowzilla.htm one of thses [ check out PMS III ] http://www.andersonfordmotorsport.com/pms/pms-50.html one of these http://www.ttcautomotive.com/English/products/TKO.asp Mixed by http://www.mperacing.com/ and http://www.powerhousemachine.net/services.html All the othe rparts can be found pretty eailly. My car is a non doner. The people on th Cobra board are great like the people here http://www.ffcobra.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi If I had the place and the 250 hours to build the car I would have . So far the cobra is the best training car I have been in. Nothing like having the instructor in the same car as you and being able to ride with someone who knows how to drive. That is the biggest limitation of Skip Barber. The Cobra school cars handles almost as well as a formula car and way better than most street cars. Still haven't driven an new Z-06 . There is nothing like an open car at 120 mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aczwild Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 So wow. I say again what, or how do I get to live like you? Seriously, PM me if you have the time. I'm a Junior now in college and if you can direct me a certain way, hell I'll walk that line. JDM'd All to hell Thanks Jimmy @ Hkc-Speed.com! RIP Coxx & Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I'd stay away from the PMS, IMHO Tweecer will do the job better. I have no desire to own one of the Factory Five cars, but I would love to build one! Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 chuck we should hit up the track some time Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jah64 Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Congrats It is also on my dream list on things to. My buddy just bought a Superformance roadster with a Roush 427R! this thing is awsome. Check out the FFrogs forum too. If you are looking for a small block 302 I might have a line on one for you it's a cleavor similar to a Boss 302 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucktoo Posted December 16, 2005 Author Share Posted December 16, 2005 I lucked out - right place right time . Times were much easier in the rapdly growing economy of the 70 and 80s. I have been high level engineering for 34 years but I would not recomend that as a professsion today - I am not sure what I would recomend. My daughter is in Med school now. It took a long time before I could afford toys like these. RAO I am using an A9L EEC so if I dont like Chris's results with PMS -tweecerRT is aways there. He really likes to tune with PMS. There is a new version of PMS coming with MAP and Wide Band support. There is always AEM but that is gross overkill. With 90's vintage technology you actually have some choices in ECU. Humm - what do you do with a 2006 car with no OBD-2 port or CELs . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aczwild Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I have been high level engineering for 34 years but I would not recomend that as a professsion today - I am not sure what I would recomend. Haha great I'm a Mechanical Engineer specializing in Computer Aided Design and then I'm gonna try to go to California for Transportation Design at the Arts Center College of Design after I get outta Clarkson. Thanks for the reply and best of luck to your daughter. JDM'd All to hell Thanks Jimmy @ Hkc-Speed.com! RIP Coxx & Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDII Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I hate you !! actually im just really jealous. Bring it up to louden and let me know when you do!!!! Need forum help? Private Message legGTLT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aczwild Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Loudon (IBspellingnazi) good track watching the Nas-ama-car roundy rounds JDM'd All to hell Thanks Jimmy @ Hkc-Speed.com! RIP Coxx & Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xantium Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Was considering building a daytona coupe (they call it a type 65 coupe for legal reasons) for the longest damn time... might still actually happen, we'll see... btw congrats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacy_y_tu Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Looks like mad fun. My buddy just finished up his Factory Five cobra and LOVES it . Good luck with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kster Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Congrats on the new car! Just one caution, before you take on the track, please get a well built cage. Don't want to scare anyone but I have to share this quick story: I was behind one of these cars last year at Thunderhill. He went over turn 9 (it's a blind turn over a hill) and then a few seconds later, I when I went over T9. As my suspension compressed, I saw him rolling track right off in the dirt. When I drove closer, I saw his helmet rolling along the track. It's a sight I'll never forget. He was taken by helicopter and suffered major injuries. From the last I heard, he was okay after a very long recovery. This driver had only the single roll hoop, so please get better roll protection. I have a full cage in my track car (a miata) and it's the only way I feel safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodan Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Very cool! Make sure and post some pics when it's up and running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucktoo Posted December 21, 2005 Author Share Posted December 21, 2005 I am have bought a Challenge car kit- with roll cage -fuel cell - hans mount- everything needed to be SCCA and NASA approved for open racing in the unlimted class. My FFR kit will be done 12/30 - we will pick it up the next week. We are also welding in 1/8" steel plate for side impact and drivers foot well protection. All the engine parts are on order . The fun begins in about 2 weeks. Should be 400-500 rwhp on pump gas with 6-9 psi of boost. The question now is which will be finished first the Cobra or Outback ? April ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 I bet on the Cobra Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucktoo Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 I think you are right - the Cobra is such a simple car and really easy to work on. We are setting mine up so you can pull front or back body 1/2s off in minutes to get to the frame. I will have to get used to a race car on the street -things like seats are bolted down and non-adjustable - turn signal is a toggle switch on the dash Basically just a drive train and a frame with a couple of pieces of plastic covering it. No creature comforts just go fast . It will be interesting with ~2500 lb and ~500 hp even with the 315/35 x 17s and long track gears it will be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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