jdkobe Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I know this is insanely priced, but I just got back from talking this thru with my dealer. the good news is the headlight sells as a unit, including bulb, Ballast, igniter, harness and, get this, the pitch motor. the bad news is the price at $600 per side for a total of $1,200. I really like the idea of having the switch next to the dash dimming switch that changes the pitch of the headlights like the STI has... I wonder what it would take the wire the pitch motors up? So, I guess if you went with this, one would also have true HID projectors. Has anyone done a side by side with the new STI ? Jdkobe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melayout Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I know it's your money and everything, but come on $1,200 for HIDs. I keed I keeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agctr Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 1.2K is very expensive just for a trick bit of gear. There are a few vendors on the board now selling genuine Xenon/HID projectors that will do the exact job for a 1/4 of the price. The rest u can spend on the wife or gf or be even madder and mod something else. Then again its STi parts....... Just sit down and work the figures and really make up yr mind before pulling the trigger. All the best. Ada///M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYNY Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 that's 1200 w/o labor, probably add on another $200-300 if you do it at the dealer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhBe1 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I expect that most dealers would not touch this. 06LOB2.5i MT, JDMRSB, GYTTs, HPS, LGT Mufflers & Leather Wheel, SubiMomo Knob, Inalfa Moonroof, Clutch Switch Bypass, DeDRLd, DeChimed, & Straight Headrest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookslikeanevo Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 it only cost like 325 for hids, your projectors(stock) can handle iwth with very little glare, if any Current:MY05 SWP wagon - 253/290 UP, AEM CAI, Invidia Q300, tuned@yimisport OLD: MY06 GRP - 274/314 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOXRPWR Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 here's what you do....wait for some teenage kid who's parents bought him the wrong car (too powerful) totals it. Hopefully, the headlight housings will still be intact. then buy those at salvage pricing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deer Killer Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 They sell all that as a unit, without the housing? The price makes more sense if it includes the housing, and you can get some cash back for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 1.2K is very expensive just for a trick bit of gear. There are a few vendors on the board now selling genuine Xenon/HID projectors that will do the exact job for a 1/4 of the price. Brother Ada, I thought that currently, only one fellow member is offering such true-retrofit combos, already pieced together, as a pure service to his fellow LGTers....and that in so far as Vendors are concerned, they are only marketing the plug-and-play ballast-ignitor-bulb kits. Please correct me if I'm wrong..... <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agctr Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 That could be correct, I haven't done the full search on it to be honest, I was just merely stating that there are other Vendors as such selling Xenon/HID solutions that would be just as good at the OEM STi install for a 1/4 of that price. Then again, u get what u pay for. If the member wants them, get them, no one is stopping them, all Im saying is before U pull the trigger, have a look around, do a bit of shopping. As we all know, anything with STi stuck on it, means big load up costs. Oh and by the way.... Ada///M. = Adam Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Dangit, I truly meant to write "Adam," but my dumb fingers somewhat crapped out on me... Now I read you, Adam, I see that we're on the same page. I wonder when we'll see a member here who has done this pricy mod - and exactly what results it will produce with the adjustments/leveling control. Certainly, I know there are enough lighting "purists" here, and undoubtedly, some are already seriously eying this "ultimate retrofit." <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scans007 Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 To the top......scansy is starting to play again (did I just refer to myself in the 3rd person...what is wrong with me......long day). We'll see if I can work some magic with my local dealer..... And hell if I buy them, maybe I can start the train of I'll clear the lights you pay me I'll ship them out, you ship me your headlights back, I'll clear them....just to make a few bucks back All just toughts right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsalicru Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Eh, I think a better/cheaper route is to go with a setup like this... http://www.hidplanet.com/package.html $399-445 for a complete setup including the actual projectors. Frankly, I can tell you from owning a STi, the little button to aim them isn't really as useful as you think. One RARELY ever uses it. What I ended up doing was to change the setting so the lowest was my regular lowbeam and the highest was for when I went to the canyons at night (my wife used to work at a casino located in a rural area) "some say, his arms are made of coiled adamantium fibers. And that he tops his cereal with nuts and bolts. All we know is, he's called the Jose." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scans007 Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Yeah I'm not worried about cost right now, I'm just spit balling...... I want the spec B to be as steath as possible, In and out..... I can install just a normal set if HIDS $280, like i did in my last 3 cars..... and who knows what I can get them for.....maybe I can just get the Kit, not the whole light.....I'm sure I could sell my 06 headlights....for a good piece back...Don't forget I have hookups at the dealer (not really after the self leveling and stuff) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praedet Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Good luck!! The retrofit is definitely worth it! Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team23jordan Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 STi retrofit is too pricy and i don't really see the benefit Perrin BIG maf intake Perrin Turbo Inlet HKS SSQV BOV Megan Racing header with UP (ceramic coated) HKS DP (WRX) DMH E-cutout Custom 3" catback UTEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enlight Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 I don't see a benefit either. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the JDM legacys have HIDs and they are using the same projectors as we are. You can just buy a McCulloch kit. That's unless you really want the switch from inside that adjusts the beam. muFreight.co A JDM Container Sharing Service from Japan to NYC Website | Instagram | Email Bessie II's Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praedet Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Correct me if I'm wrong, but the JDM legacys have HIDs and they are using the same projectors as we areYou are wrong... They have a different projector. One for Halogen, and One for HID. Both are diff than the USDM Legacy... Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VXCL Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 just do what i did an use easily avail d2s sytems like hella and valeo. all parts can be had for $300 easy. i hate kits! if i had more parts id sell them to you but im all sold out. youd be crazy to pay $1200 for sti lamps especially when there are better systems out there for much less. peace my retro http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14544&page=1&pp=10 MAYHEM #122/22 STS NNJR SCCA AUTOX4U.COM XENON RETRO GUIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWP-LegacyGT Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Meh. The cost difference of $1200 bucks for a fvcking projector housing that uses the same D2S bulb as my HID kit is just a stupid waste of money. For that price you can get Stage 1 + HID and probably a freaking intake. Save your money as unless you win the lottery, the conversion is not worth the benefits. The projector that is "halogen" based is perfect for the Xtec HID kit or any other H7 conversion for that matter. Anyone can try and argue on the principle of "but, but but... it was designed for the HID bulb...." I really don't care, that is a mute point since chances are you're going to be seeing the same amount of the road that I see with my HID's. /rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 ^ Compare the two side-by-side, under *_all_* circumstances, and then you'll understand why a full retro is the only way to go if you truly want to see well. Sure, park any two such comparable vehicles some 10 or even 20 ft. from a blank wall, and things will seem to be equal, but true extensive testing will quickly reveal the shortcomings of the plug-and-play "improper" bulb-ballast-ignitor kit. Greater glare, artifacts, less defined cut-off...all are problems that simply cannot be denied. Even with a well-designed D2S adaptor ring, you're still not optimizing the halogen's optics. This is just simple physics, and its laws cannot be overcome. The end result of plug-and-play kits with our stock halogen headlamps are "acceptable" from both an in-car viewpoint as well as from outside the vehicle - aka "oncoming traffic" or "following." However, it is *far* from optimal, and furthermore, inherent artifacts that are enhanced with the "more light" cast by the HIDs will contribute to even greater exacerbation of hot-spots and dark areas, which will translate to decreased visual acuity. A true-optics retrofit, like VXCL cited, isn't a thousand(s)-of-dollars deal. Shop smart, and many can be had for just about as much money as it took to get even an "improper" bulb-ballast-ignitor plug-and-play "kit." Retrofitting the genuine '06 STI set, though, would likely be a futile pursuit in terms of trying to obtain significantly better beam pattern and throw - as compared to a well-thought-through and well-executed true-optics retrofit; and will also probably be quite an expensive undertaking as well. <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwannaSportSedan Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Or subaru could just start selling the Legacy with HID optics and bulbs, ignitors and ballasts. Like it should have from day one of the 05 model year. This is why I want OEM HIDs to be optional. Not everyone wants them, and that is fine, but some want them, and some want them done right and "official." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 ^ Agreed. I'd like to have HIDs as an option. As of current-technology, I don't think it's either necessary nor necessarily "a must have for safety." However, depending on vehicle specifics and anticipated driving patterns, they truly could come in handy. <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praedet Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Well, as Allen knows, and VXCL for that matter, I know the benefits of a retrofit. I love mine! I actually talked to scans about this. I guess I view this as something different, and new. If scans can get them for $500ish(the original poster said > $1K), then personally, I think he should. I would have. It's not that I think the STi HID will be better than my BMW retrofit, but it will be easier, and have more functionallity due to that. Plus, it is something NOVEL, much like what VXCL did. Everybody likes to give him a hard time too. Yes the LGT has great projector housings, but they are for halogen and a OEM HID projector is better. And it is noticeable. Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VXCL Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 hey there's my fellow retro'r. We lost the 3rd guy somewhere though. MAYHEM #122/22 STS NNJR SCCA AUTOX4U.COM XENON RETRO GUIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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