Leg A See Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 If you had to choose between the GoodyearLS2 or Kuhmo Ecsta, which would you choose? I don’t really know a lot about tires and need them put on tomorrow. These are the two available that I can afford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilot1226 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Go check out the ratings on TireRack. They’re pretty solid for ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securityguy Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Since you are asking, I don't like either...especially hate Goodyear. Suggest you look at Continental and Michelin. I got the Michelin Premier A/S...highly rated and a great tire. I do all my research on TR as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLINH Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Getting my Michelin premier A/s put on Wednesday.can’t wait. Good bye no good year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcEWoLF Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I went with the Continental DWS 06 and so far loving it. The Michelin Pilots 3+ are solid too. I’d stay away from the ls2. Absolute garbage rating, sold mine on fb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin3.6R Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Michelin and Conti DWS. Hard to beat period. I have had both and great tires.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raider600 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 LS2 are factory, or at least they are on my 16 now. Complete trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apexi Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I really like Kumho tires.. Great tires for the money. I've never bought goodyears because the reviews always seem pretty mediocre for the price. Though they do make a few different ecsta models, so I'm not sure which you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil_Ed Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 LS2 are factory, or at least they are on my 16 now. Complete trash. Yup, they came on my 18...I can tell you they really suck in winter and on snow, badly. I haven't noticed any issues since it's thawed a bit here, but I also haven't tried them in actual rain/wet yet, either, so... I can say, I'll be buying a set of actual winter tires for this coming winter; these things are truly horrible when it's cold and snowing. Maybe they'll redeem themselves in summer, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raider600 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Yup, they came on my 18...I can tell you they really suck in winter and on snow, badly. I haven't noticed any issues since it's thawed a bit here, but I also haven't tried them in actual rain/wet yet, either, so... I can say, I'll be buying a set of actual winter tires for this coming winter; these things are truly horrible when it's cold and snowing. Maybe they'll redeem themselves in summer, who knows. And yours are new. Imagine them used. Subaru is doing a disservice to themselves putting these on AWD cars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcEWoLF Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I mean the tires are serviceable, just horrible on snow and rain, I drove them on crappy weather and they were truly crappy. I didn’t feel comfortable at all. If you live in warm weather you should not have any issues unless it rains a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crudzinskas Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I've had an excellent experience with the goodyear LS2 tires that come with the car. The tread life is lasting very well with a little over half life left at 30,000 miles. The wet traction feels very reliable and I've never had any type of hydroplaning at speeds near 70mph in heavy rain. Snow traction is average. You'll definitely get where you're going and have no problem driving when there is 2-4 inches of snow accumulated on the roads but of course they are no snow tires. Would I buy these tires again? No - you can definitely get a better tire for the same or less price. Am I mad these are the OEM tires on the car - not at all. In your situation since you seem like you have to get one or the other, I would probably go with the Kuhmo because I would be interested in trying something new from just quickly searching they look to be much cheaper and of similar performance. I'd also do a search and see who has any tire rebates going on right now. The tires the other guys are recommending are without a doubt superior, but not everyone needs or can afford the absolute best tires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNTransplant Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I’ve had both, and I'd go with the Kumhos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrelaplume Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Yup, they came on my 18...I can tell you they really suck in winter and on snow, badly. I haven't noticed any issues since it's thawed a bit here, but I also haven't tried them in actual rain/wet yet, either, so... I can say, I'll be buying a set of actual winter tires for this coming winter; these things are truly horrible when it's cold and snowing. Maybe they'll redeem themselves in summer, who knows. Wait...You have AWD and still have issues in snow...this one reason I just bought an AWD car. My wife had a RAV...never any issues with any tires. So, can you clarify what is so bad about them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securityguy Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Traction of the tire itself sucks. AWD is not the end all be all. A great set of tires helps a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97outbackron Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Wait...You have AWD and still have issues in snow...this one reason I just bought an AWD car. My wife had a RAV...never any issues with any tires. So, can you clarify what is so bad about them? Id like to know as well. I don't deal with snow (unless I decide to drive up into the mountains which I don't. This car is 21 years old and I can rip around town in the rain. I have not been able to break a tire free yet. Would like to hear your experiences in snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornichoe Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 If you had to choose between the GoodyearLS2 or Kuhmo Ecsta, which would you choose? I don’t really know a lot about tires and need them put on tomorrow. These are the two available that I can afford. You probably made your choice already. The LS2s are not the best tires, but they are not too bad when new. I've had mine for almost a year and 10k miles later; drove in the north east and mid west winter weather, and heavy rain. Never felt that I wasn't in control. Unless you are driving like you stole it, they are decent. The original ones on the car were pretty toast when I bought it at 35k. So don't expect them to last anything more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
personatech Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I've put Kumhos on several cars we've owned in the past - great bang for the buck! As someone else has already pointed out, the Goodyears aren't terrible as OEM tires (I have plenty of treadlife left at 40K miles on my '17 Legacy) but they are noisy and better tires could be had for similar money (including, probably, those Kumhos). I'll also second the motion that you check the tire ratings at Tirerack. When it's time to replace my Goodyears, I'll probably put a little more money into the set and go with either the Michelins or Contis, if for no other reason than trying to reduce the road noise a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securityguy Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Just because you have AWD does NOT mean that you can just plow through anything that comes your way. Your tires still have a LOT to do with the traction of your car and how well it performs in an AWD scenario. No different than having EyeSight. Just because you have it does not mean you can drive like an idiot thinking that your car will prevent you from killing yourself or others around you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrelaplume Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Just because you have AWD does NOT mean that you can just plow through anything that comes your way. Your tires still have a LOT to do with the traction of your car and how well it performs in an AWD scenario. No different than having EyeSight. Just because you have it does not mean you can drive like an idiot thinking that your car will prevent you from killing yourself or others around you. Yes I am aware of the dangers of plowing thru snow. And to be fair I am in Eastern PA...the definition of a ‘lot of snow’ here may differ from the original poster. Having had 30+ years of driving both FWD and AWD around these parts I can tell you I have never has an issue pulling and moving in my wife’s AWD car (both 1st and second generation RAVs) My Camry and Corolla...thats another story and pretty much the reason I am in a Subaru...I wanted AWD and a **car**. I Was merely asking for an elaboration...was it pulling out, stopping...does the car perform worse than say the Forestor etc. As far as eyesight, I do not have that and wish I could have afforded it. That tech is the best thing to come along in years. The down side is that, as you mentioned, people will become complacent so those using it properly need to start to watch for folks hitting them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xelu01 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I bought the kumho and absolutely love them compared to good year. Price was much cheaper then the Michelin or Continental. Ratings were close to them but much cheaper. I don't regret it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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