05GT Guru Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 It's actually 2800lbs but yea still pretty good. The 7 lug axles etc bump GVWR to 8300lbs and the truck is around 5500lbs as they have limited options in the max payload XLT. I don't have leather, power seats, nav, touch screen, dual climate etc. I have a crew cab, 4wd, a 6.5ft bed and basic options like power windows etc. It's a somewhat bare bones truck... not a full on work truck stripped down interior but def not top end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted August 16, 2017 Moderators Share Posted August 16, 2017 Yeah, I kinda wish they would do the max payload package but still option the trucks out. Would be nice to have a well optioned truck with a payload of well over 2000#. "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Which could be totally doable with the aluminium trucks coming in at under 5,000lbs... even with the added axle weight etc the max payload package would add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted August 17, 2017 Moderators Share Posted August 17, 2017 Which could be totally doable with the aluminium trucks coming in at under 5,000lbs... even with the added axle weight etc the max payload package would add. If they kept all the same components and just switched to aluminum, I think the payload would have gone up by like 700# on just about every truck. I don't think that's what the numbers did though. Seems like the switched to aluminum and then undersized some of the other components in response to the reduced weight, I'm sure to partially offset the cost difference for the aluminum. "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris GTO TT Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 Oh man I want this ball mount! https://www.etrailer.com/Ball-Mounts/Weigh-Safe/WS4-2.html 2003 Baja 5MT 2016 Outback 2.5i Premium w/Eyesight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodan Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 That's pretty cool! Most people have no idea what their actual tongue weight is... I use a weight distributing hitch, so it wouldn't work for me, though. I have a regular tongue weight scale, and experimented with our typical loadouts to determine where to tie down the car to get the proper tongue weight. Something like that would be a lot quicker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris GTO TT Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 Yeah by the time you buy an adjustable ball mount and a scale you can just buy this and have both! 2003 Baja 5MT 2016 Outback 2.5i Premium w/Eyesight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodan Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 My only question would be if you could lock out the scale, so the load is not 'bouncing' on it as you go down the road. I would think that wouldn't be good for the scale components in the long run... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted September 4, 2017 Moderators Share Posted September 4, 2017 Can't you weigh tongue weight with a bathroom scale and some cut/measured 2x4 pieces? "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodan Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Can't you weigh tongue weight with a bathroom scale and some cut/measured 2x4 pieces? Sure... but it's a PITA. Especially when dealing with higher tongue weights. I use one of these: https://www.etrailer.com/Tools/Sherline/5780.html http://sherline.com/Wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/lm2000_pic.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris GTO TT Posted September 4, 2017 Author Share Posted September 4, 2017 My only question would be if you could lock out the scale, so the load is not 'bouncing' on it as you go down the road. I would think that wouldn't be good for the scale components in the long run...Yeah I wonder about that too, but they offer a lifetime warranty. Can't you weigh tongue weight with a bathroom scale and some cut/measured 2x4 pieces? Sure assuming your bathroom scale doesn't break when you put 500-700lbs on it. 2003 Baja 5MT 2016 Outback 2.5i Premium w/Eyesight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodan Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 He's talking about a leverage trick with the 2x4s: http://neotrailers.com/images/tonguewt2.jpg In this example, only 1/3 of the tongue weight is on the scale, so you multiply the reading by 3. PITA... and still not great for heavier trailers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris GTO TT Posted September 4, 2017 Author Share Posted September 4, 2017 Oh I've never seen that before. Looks like a massive pain lol. Disregard my previous comment about the bathroom scale breaking. 2003 Baja 5MT 2016 Outback 2.5i Premium w/Eyesight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhitter Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 My scale is glass. It probably would break so your statement is still valid. My OBXT build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted September 5, 2017 Moderators Share Posted September 5, 2017 That's a nice looking little scale, rodan. I think I would prefer to have a separate scale and a good WDH over a drawbar with a scale built in. We just put a deposit on a used travel trailer, so will be hooking up the WDH that I've had sitting around for the first time. Should be interesting. When we get it loaded up I might invest in a tongue scale to really get the weight dialed in. The 2x4 method is definitely a PITA, but better than nothing! "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodan Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 There's a little adjustment required to dial in a WDH, so be sure to follow the instructions, or hit youtube when you hook yours up. It does make a noticeable difference in handling, it's just a PITA sometimes when parking, as you'll need to remove the torsion bars to back the trailer at any kind of angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris GTO TT Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 Did brakes on it yesterday, Raybestos Enhanced Hybrid pads and Advanced Technology Rotors at all 4 corners. Pedal feel is greatly improved and the truck stops better too, and that's without the pads being fully bedded in. IMG_20170922_182508_914 by christobal65, on Flickr 2003 Baja 5MT 2016 Outback 2.5i Premium w/Eyesight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris GTO TT Posted October 14, 2017 Author Share Posted October 14, 2017 The pictures on the left is stock and the right is with a spacer. The spacer pushes the wheels out to where most aftermarket wheels would be. I'm not planning on driving this way, it was a cheap way to see if I'd like how it looks. IMG_20171014_135749_993 by christobal65, on Flickr 2003 Baja 5MT 2016 Outback 2.5i Premium w/Eyesight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris GTO TT Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 Here's one out of the garage... IMG_20171014_164220 by christobal65, on Flickr 2003 Baja 5MT 2016 Outback 2.5i Premium w/Eyesight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhitter Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Slightly too far imo My OBXT build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris GTO TT Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 Slightly too far imo I tend to agree with you, but unfortunately wheels the offset I'd need to put the wheels where I'd want them are few and far between. Additionally, most of them are stance style wheels. The Explorer uses 5x114 17x7.5 et42 wheels stock, it's GVWR is too high for a typical car wheel. The wheels which are available are typically for older Jeeps and have a very low or negative offset. It makes shopping for wheels a pain in the neck. 2003 Baja 5MT 2016 Outback 2.5i Premium w/Eyesight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodan Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 IMHO that looks fine. And I'm not a fan of "poke" on trucks (although it appears to be all the rage around here). Some guy just posted this on one of the Ram forums... it's crap like this that makes me want to puke... It should help you put things in perspective... http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171015/55c64e9ae4f8874e6dcf70869717c3bb.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris GTO TT Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 Yeah, I know what I have is a more 'traditional off-road poke," but I'm not trying to make it super aggressive bro'ed out Explorer either. 2003 Baja 5MT 2016 Outback 2.5i Premium w/Eyesight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris GTO TT Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 Teaser post.... I finally pulled the trigger on wheels and tires with the deals/rebates Discount Tires Direct was offering. Ordered a 16x8 et+25 wheel with 265/70/16 Cooper Discoverer AT3 tires. Pics coming when they arrive 2003 Baja 5MT 2016 Outback 2.5i Premium w/Eyesight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris GTO TT Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 They were finally delivered today and I love how it looks 2003 Baja 5MT 2016 Outback 2.5i Premium w/Eyesight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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