SCRAPPYDO Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 I am growing increasingly unhappy with the feel of my v1.15 flash. I feels less responsive and more sluggish than my 1.02 flash I orginally had. I no longer have the thrust I use to have in 4th or 5th. At highway speeds, 70+ I use to be able to just touch the gas and see 80+ in a heartbeat, now I litterally feel no acceleration and the response is slow. I know that the butt dyno is not the most telling, but something just does not feel right here. So, last night I hooked up the AP and trued to flash my old 1.02 version back on. It would get to: Sending... and thats it. It never told me to turn the car on and off again. In fact after a while at the Sending... screen it said done. When I checked the version it still had 1.15 on it. so my question is... is it possible to flash backwards? SCRAPPYDO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wukindada Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Flash to stock, then try again;) Toyota 6EATS .........SUCK!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmundu Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 I am growing increasingly unhappy with the feel of my v1.15 flash. I feels less responsive and more sluggish than my 1.02 flash I orginally had. I no longer have the thrust I use to have in 4th or 5th. At highway speeds, 70+ I use to be able to just touch the gas and see 80+ in a heartbeat, now I litterally feel no acceleration and the response is slow. I know that the butt dyno is not the most telling, but something just does not feel right here. So, last night I hooked up the AP and trued to flash my old 1.02 version back on. It would get to: Sending... and thats it. It never told me to turn the car on and off again. In fact after a while at the Sending... screen it said done. When I checked the version it still had 1.15 on it. so my question is... is it possible to flash backwards? SCRAPPYDO It sounds like you were attempting to just switch realtime maps, in which case, when you check the version of the map, it would have still displayed v1.15. That's because Cobb only shows the base map, and not what RT map is loaded. In order for you to go back to a complete v1.02, you would need to connect your green connectors, and choose change base map of the AP menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *Jedimaster* Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 I'm with you on the 1.15. It just doesn't feel as "good" as the 1.10. I assume it's due to being more "smooth", but I just don't like it. I'd flash back to stock and then 1.10, but I hate to waste a flash- hopefully COBB is working on another version that will meet my needs. If not, I'll just waste the flashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eles1 Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 I'm with you on the 1.15. It just doesn't feel as "good" as the 1.10. I assume it's due to being more "smooth", but I just don't like it. I'd flash back to stock and then 1.10, but I hate to waste a flash- hopefully COBB is working on another version that will meet my needs. If not, I'll just waste the flashes. Just out of curiousity, are there others out there that share this opinion?? I haven't flashed to 1.15 since I've been pretty happy with 1.10. If the concensus is that 1.10 is better than 1.15, maybe I won't even bother trying the new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myUsername Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Does this only apply to 5mt? I have a 5EAT. I just received my AP yesterday and 1.15 was already pre-loaded. I don't have a base to compare it to other than stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *Jedimaster* Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Just out of curiousity, are there others out there that share this opinion?? I haven't flashed to 1.15 since I've been pretty happy with 1.10. If the concensus is that 1.10 is better than 1.15, maybe I won't even bother trying the new one. I don't know if others feel this way, but after living with it since a few days after it was out, it's definitely less fun. Boost comes on so smooth in 3rd that it doesn't even feel like a turbocharged car anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limeydriver Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I don't have an issue with 1.15 other than not curing the stuttering. Which really is the biggest issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_T Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I've had 115 in since it came out and was running 110 before that. I find the car seeks 90 mph as its comfort zone now whereas 80 was it for 110. The walk to 120 feels at least as strong as 110. Much better bottom end although this car could use a gutted UP. I have no complaints with what seems to be broadened torque delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leggyman Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Been running Stg 2 1.15 (5EAT) for a couple weeks now. I like it a lot, but then I didn't run Stg 2 1.10 for quite as long. My standing impression of 1.15 is that it has much better low end tq. But it may die off at higher RPM's a bit, compared to 1.10. I'm not sure. I was actually thinking about flashing back to 1.10 to see if I like it better. Process Question: Do you have to revert to stock before flashing a retro map, like going from 1.15 to 1.10? I wouldn't think this should be the case, but I keep seeing that referenced in posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eles1 Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I've had 115 in since it came out and was running 110 before that. I find the car seeks 90 mph as its comfort zone now whereas 80 was it for 110. The walk to 120 feels at least as strong as 110. Much better bottom end although this car could use a gutted UP. I have no complaints with what seems to be broadened torque delivery. Been running Stg 2 1.15 (5EAT) for a couple weeks now. I like it a lot, but then I didn't run Stg 2 1.10 for quite as long. My standing impression of 1.15 is that it has much better low end tq. But it may die off at higher RPM's a bit, compared to 1.10. I'm not sure. I was actually thinking about flashing back to 1.10 to see if I like it better. I think 1.15 had some significant changes in it for the 5eat that would make it much better than 1.10. However, my car is 5MT (and I think Jedi's is too). Anyone else with a 5mt want to weigh in on 1.10 vs 1.15?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eles1 Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Process Question: Do you have to revert to stock before flashing a retro map, like going from 1.15 to 1.10? I wouldn't think this should be the case, but I keep seeing that referenced in posts. My initial response would be "no, you shouldn't need to reflash to stock first", but you may want to give Cobb a call to be certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *Jedimaster* Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I think 1.15 had some significant changes in it for the 5eat that would make it much better than 1.10. However, my car is 5MT (and I think Jedi's is too). Anyone else with a 5mt want to weigh in on 1.10 vs 1.15?? Yup, mine is 5MT- did you also like 1.10 better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eles1 Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Yup, mine is 5MT- did you also like 1.10 better? I like 1.10 better than 1.02. As a matter of fact, I like 1.10 so much that I haven't even tried 1.15 yet. After some of the responses in this forum concerning 5mt cars with 1.15, I'm wondering if I should even bother trying it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagcars26 Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I was also under the impression that the 1.15 was an improvement more for the 5eat then the 5 speed manual. I think I formed that conclusion from reading some of the remarks on Cobbs website. Rudy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *Jedimaster* Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Yeah, it did cater mostly to the 5EAT, but there were some changes for the MT version. I suppose the average person would prefer the feel of 1.15, but I liked 1.10 better because it just felt like more of a rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emlevins Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Any difference between v1.10 and v1.15 for the 5MT relative to the stuttering? 05 SWP Legacy GT Limited (aka "Pearl")- 5MT AP - Stage 2 Protuned (238/284) - wife driven 07 BMW 335xi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limeydriver Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *Jedimaster* Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Nah, mine stuttered the next day- at least with 1.10 it took a few weeks to come back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCRAPPYDO Posted October 6, 2005 Author Share Posted October 6, 2005 I have never felt this stuttering people keep talking about.. perhaps you can describe what it is to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eles1 Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 I have never felt this stuttering people keep talking about.. perhaps you can describe what it is to me? Try a search on "stutter"... I promise you'll find lots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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