fotofan Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I think I might just take it into a shop and have them straighten the wheel during the alignment... or would it be as simple as me unmounting the steering wheel and reinstalling it to correct the angle? You can do it either way. I put something here like all the cool people, except there's nothing cool to put here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragman Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I am not familiar with legacy specifics, but don't most alignment shops adjust the tierods on both sides to even out the steering wheel in this situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJMC Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 There isn't much room left for adjustments in the tie rod ends to even out the steering wheel with the '15 STi steering rack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotofan Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Then yank the wheel out, straighten, and refit. 10-minute job. But if you still need an alignment you might as well wait till that's done. I put something here like all the cool people, except there's nothing cool to put here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJMC Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Is there anything that needs to be considered in the steering wheel when recentering it? Can it be spun around as much as possible? Or is there a spring or wires that need to be considered? I ask because I removed the u joint and it's freely spinning now and I'm about to recenter it. Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotofan Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 OK I've never removed a Legacy wheel, but I'm assuming it's like other cars I've messed with. If you remove and unplug the airbag/horn completely, there'll be this little plastic thingy that isn't connected to the wheel but spins with it; the airbag plugs into it. You wanna make sure that plastic thingy doesn't spin around, if possible. It'll probably have a few turns each way in it, just put it in the center before you put the wheel and airbag back in. What I'd do is reconnect the U-joint, then drive the car back and forth till you know the wheels are pointed straight, then remove the airbag, remove the lock nut on the wheel, spin the wheel, see if you can center the plastic spinner, then put the wheel on correctly and drive it a bit to confirm it's straight before you put everything back together. There's no springs or anything to worry about in the column, the only thing you need to mess with is the wheel and the plastic connector. I put something here like all the cool people, except there's nothing cool to put here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldskoolbiker Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 This seems to be the procedure. Requires the Subaru select monitor http://i.imgur.com/RE0A5UC.png I got this done at my local dealer. I told them in installed the 2015 STI rack and wanted the VDC reset. I gave them a print out of this procedure. They charged me $60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhitter Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 (edited) Did it help with the VDC issues? I can reliably turn VDC on in a few areas near my house. Because of that I typically just drive with it off all the time now. Edited June 26, 2016 by Rhitter My OBXT build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldskoolbiker Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Did it help with the VDC issues? I can reliably turn VDC on in a few areas near my house. Because of that I typically just drive with it off all the time now. It has not kicked on since I had the dealer do the VDC Reset. I haven't tried that hard to make it kick in. There are a couple of exit ramps where I could get it to kick on. I'll provide update in a few days of driving around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabo Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 It has not kicked on since I had the dealer do the VDC Reset. I haven't tried that hard to make it kick in. There are a couple of exit ramps where I could get it to kick on. I'll provide update in a few days of driving around. This is great news if it actually works. Please do keep us posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldskoolbiker Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 This is great news if it actually works. Please do keep us posted. I hit one sharp exit ramp today pretty fast and VDC did NOT kick in. It was slightly uphill. There is another steep ramp I want to hit that is downhill I want to hit which VDC had kicked on before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhitter Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 I hit one sharp exit ramp today pretty fast and VDC did NOT kick in. It was slightly uphill. There is another steep ramp I want to hit that is downhill I want to hit which VDC had kicked on before. I have noticed I can get it to kick on sooner if I am covering / lightly pressing the brake. This will cause it to kick in even with VDC off. I haven't had the reset procedure yet though. When I get my airbag replaced I'll do it. My OBXT build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabo Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 I hit one sharp exit ramp today pretty fast and VDC did NOT kick in. It was slightly uphill. There is another steep ramp I want to hit that is downhill I want to hit which VDC had kicked on before. Patiently awaiting results. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I am sorry if this has been covered in here already, but are all STi racks, at least from 2008 up, this 13:1 ratio? Looking at putting one in my FXT to help make it feel less like a whale. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted July 1, 2016 Author Share Posted July 1, 2016 MY15+ STI only. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 MY15+ STI only. I guess a 2013 STi rack wouldn't be an upgrade for my Fozz then unless my current lock-to-lock is more than 2.8 revolutions or 15:1 ratio. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted July 2, 2016 Author Share Posted July 2, 2016 Correct, at which point any old LGT rack would also be an upgrade as well. Not sure about track width and inner tie rod stub thread (where it attaches to rack, not outer tie rod) sizes for your Foz - something you may want to consoder before spending $$$ on a rack. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) Read this thread in it's entirety. Good info here guys!!! Turns out my 2009 FXT rack is 3.2 turns from lock to lock (16.5:1), so the 2013 STi rack that I am considering would be an upgrade at 2.8 turns lock to lock (15:1). And it seems that it would cause fewer issues with the VDC than what people are experiencing going all the way from 16.5:1 to 13:1. What is a fair price for a used 2013 STi rack, including inner tie rods/boots, with less than 5k miles on it? Is $200 low balling? Edited July 8, 2016 by GTEASER GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhitter Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 The LGT steering rack is 15:1 also. They might try and get more money because "STI", but really I don't think there is any reason to pay more than whatever a used LGT rack goes for. My OBXT build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 I got ~$200 for my good condition 87k LGT rack fairly recently. I think thats a fair price. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 The LGT steering rack is 15:1 also. They might try and get more money because "STI", but really I don't think there is any reason to pay more than whatever a used LGT rack goes for. The STi unit has beefier inner tie rods. 20mm vs 16mm if I read this thread correctly. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 Its only the stub threads - the rest of the ITR is identical (save for the length). Only the 15+ STI rack got the 20mm stub threads. The ITR spherical joint is the same size between the LGT and STI as well. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldskoolbiker Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Patiently awaiting results. Thanks Ok so I got to give it a good test today. Hit an off ramp at a good speed and it had a sharpish turn. VDC kicked on. I'm so disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabo Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Ok so I got to give it a good test today. Hit an off ramp at a good speed and it had a sharpish turn. VDC kicked on. I'm so disappointed. So am I, I was really hoping for good results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) It seems like the majority of the VDC issues here is the massive change from a 16.5:1 rack to the 13:1 rack, that's like 26% difference in the angle when the car thinks VDC should come on. Whereas going from 16.5:1 to 15:1, or 15:1 to 13:1 would only be a 10% or 15% difference, respectively, and may not show up as readily during daily spirited driving to the point where VDC erroneously interrupts. Edited July 8, 2016 by GTEASER GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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