driggity Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Awesome. Hopefully this will add some more sharpness to the steering of the Legacy. I'm assuming that these require a real press for installation. Is that correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Oh good, not full metal replacements, thanks!! http://photos.all.id.au/ALBUMS/SJ_Fulcrum-LCA-bushes/IMG_0192.sized.jpg http://photos.all.id.au/ALBUMS/SJ_Fulcrum-LCA-bushes/IMG_0195.sized.jpg Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hifiandmtb Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Yeah guys - the bushes are priced at AUD$140. Probably end up at US$140 anyway 'cause they have to be shipped to the U.S. & distributed out. They made an outstanding difference to the way my car steers. And there's no NVH tradeoff, unlike the Perrin ones. Yes, a press is necessary - I'd suggest you get it all done at a good suspension shop. They need to take an alignment reading pre-fitment anyway to know which bush kit to order. Take the time to read my write-up linked to the earlier post. From what I can tell, U.S. customers should discuss this with the U.S. distributor: Glenn Dirkse Global Performance Parts 4554 - 128th Street Michigan 49423 Ph: 616 399 9025 Fax: 616 399 9174 Web: www.globalperformanceparts.com E.Mail: glennd@globalperformanceparts.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 good time to swap to the aluminum arms too....have these bushings pressed in off the car, then swap the hole unit out. Should be a killer upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hifiandmtb Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Too right, Patagonian GT. I was thinking just that but $ got in the way These bushes have transformed the way my car steers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_sp Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Hi Folks, HiFi is dead-right about these bushes. If you haven't read his report, I recommend you do so! I had the Perrins fitted about 6 months ago and while they provided excellent location of the LCAs, I found the regular trips the dentist to have my fillings re-done were becoming tedious... About 3 months ago I was fortunate to have some early SuperPro (Fulcrum) bushes fitted in place of the Perrins and everything HiFi says regarding these new units is correct, - 99.9% of the benefits of the Perrins, - virtually 0% of the NVH issues. These are a great product from a company that (secretly) supplies OEM bushes to some of the most exclusive sports-car manufacturers in the world for some of the most expensive and high performance cars on the planet. (Their supply agreements precludes advertising or even acknowledging this fact. Go figure...) However, from what I've found with their bushes, they've put their expertise and experience to good use in producing a really well-engineered mass-market product at a very reasonable price. (I personally can't afford the phone-number prices of the cars to which their bushes are fitted as original equipment, so having these is a bit like having a bit of secret exotica in my sedan...) Anyway, I can't imagine anyone being disappointed with this product if it's selected and fitted correctly. It made a huge difference to my vehicle. Thanks for the report HiFi. Regards, Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainmorgan Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 I smell a group buy coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieRU Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Just called Global Performance Parts. They will get back to me tomorrow with the pricing. I was told that the part will be in the US in about 3 weeks as it is relatively new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckman Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Anybody want to explain the purposes of the three kits??? Do you generally want castor to be the same on both sides or should there be a slight differential side to side. My car currently pulls to the right on crowned roads (left hand drive) which I think is due to the castor being uneven on both sides?? But maybe it is just more uneven then it should be... They sell three kits: SPF2801K - 2 standard SPF2802K - 1 offset and 1 standard SPF2803K - 2 offset bushings Thanks for the help, Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieRU Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 SPF2801K - 2 standard SPF2802K - 1 offset and 1 standard SPF2803K - 2 offset bushings Hifi, which kit did you use? I assume 2801- standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Bhwhahahahah, From teh linked article: Other points to note ... WTF Subaru? Get your act together, would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 very tempting.. might have to do this later once I end up bending a control arm.. then i'll just upgrade to the aluminum arms wtih the new bushings.. "if it aint broken, dont fix it" Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driggity Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Anybody want to explain the purposes of the three kits??? Do you generally want castor to be the same on both sides or should there be a slight differential side to side. My car currently pulls to the right on crowned roads (left hand drive) which I think is due to the castor being uneven on both sides?? But maybe it is just more uneven then it should be... They sell three kits: SPF2801K - 2 standard SPF2802K - 1 offset and 1 standard SPF2803K - 2 offset bushings Thanks for the help, Kevin If you want your car to track straight on flat ground you'd want equal caster on each side. I guess if you know how much the caster was off from one side to the other and how much the offset bushing changes the caster you could even it out by using one offset and one standard bushing. Personally if I do this I'll probably just use 2 offset bushings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckman Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Quote: Originally Posted by mckman http://legacygt.com/forums/skynetim/buttons/viewpost.gif SPF2801K - 2 standard SPF2802K - 1 offset and 1 standard SPF2803K - 2 offset bushings Hifi, which kit did you use? I assume 2801- standard. Actually from the picture it looks like Hifi used 2802. You can see the offset in one of the bushings and the number on the package. Just not sure why you wouldn't get 2 offset bushings for the maximum adjustability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckman Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 If you want your car to track straight on flat ground you'd want equal caster on each side. I guess if you know how much the caster was off from one side to the other and how much the offset bushing changes the caster you could even it out by using one offset and one standard bushing. Personally if I do this I'll probably just use 2 offset bushings. According to my last alignment the castor is different on each side due to a slightly bent right control arm (minor accident). These bushings would help me even out the castor as well as improve steering response. I am leaning towards the 2 offset bushings as well, but just wondered if there were any drawbacks other than maybe making the install a bit trickier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hifiandmtb Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: my reason to chose the 2802 (one standard, one offset), this was recommended to me by Fulcrum as my car has always (mildly) pulled left (falling off the left-hand side of the road) due to road camber & this annoyed me no end. If the road is flat & straight, the car tracks straight. All the offset seems to do is provide more resistance to falling towards the road camber (remembering, we drive on the LHS ). My OEM caster reading was actually a little less on the left than the right. With these new bushes, the delta has shifted to where I wanted it to be...more on the left! BTW - just completed a 1,460 km (900-odd mile) drive in 13 hours & feel great. It's fantastic not to have to fight the slight left pull & also experience pin-sharp steering & arrow-straight tracking. I'm more than happy with the outcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 I really can't believe that Whiteline hasn't started making these yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieRU Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 About an hour ago, I talked with Zach at Global Performance Parts, who told me that they can get the kit for $126 within 3 weeks. Now I need to decide which one I want. I think 2803 corresponds to the Perrin PSRS that I currently have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 OOoooOoOo.... I want, I want. Anyone know if OB fittment is different? My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hifiandmtb Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 This will fit an Outback too - no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim1969 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 I really can't believe that Whiteline hasn't started making these yet... superpro makes the bushings for whiteline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hifiandmtb Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Yes, that's my understanding. So you will soon be able to source these bushes through your Whiteline distributor too...I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 whiteline = yellow superpro = blue correct? Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanboy Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Would be in for a group buy... Would wait to install until coilover/Spec B takeoffs happen. In two years, I have yet to start a LGT aftermarket parts pile. Perhaps the time has come! -B http://www.standardshift.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 In for the group buy!!! Or someone just tell me what I need (parts numbers) and point me in the right direction My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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