dkodyl Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Diesel power for Subaru? 02 September 2005 http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/images/null.gif Subaru is developing a pair of diesel engines for the first time in the firm's history. In true Subaru fashion, the new common rail turbo diesels will be based around the firm's trademark horizontally opposed 'boxer' design. Designed in conjunction with Isuzu, the four cylinder engines will come in two guises, a 2.0 litre developing 111kW and a 135kW 2.2-litre. Subaru originally commissioned Porsche's engineering expertise to design the new diesel units but the production units will be based around an in-house design. The move to develop these new engines is to help improve sales in diesel mad Europe. Expect to see these units to be powering the Impreza and Legacy models by the end of 2006. Also on Subaru's agenda is the development of a Legacy petrol- electric hybrid. With help from electronics giant NEC, the company is making claims that the battery technology used has a life of 15 years while offering a 30 per cent reduction in fuel economy from the car's turbocharged 2.0-litre petrol engine. The electric Legacy is due to go on sale in Japan in 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firedawgs Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 interesting. Updated my vBGarage: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f1anatic Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Dawg...I am buying that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tantal Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Sign me up for the turbo diesel, as long as it has a 7MT. =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 that's some towing power. Keefe Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfxdave99 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 US Market will never see them though, with the new emissions standards starting for 07 for diesels even the ones they sell here now dont pass.. They will be popular in the eurpoean market however wher diesel is signifigantly cheaper and widely adopted. http://www.epa.gov/cleandiesel/ If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *Jedimaster* Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Awesome! I want a stinky clackety clack car too!!!@1111eleven!1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aczwild Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Man that would be so sweet to see Legacy Turbo Diesels scooting around, hopefully they engineer the babies to pass the stricter emissions standars, but most likely they are engineering them to be more competitive in Europe. JDM'd All to hell Thanks Jimmy @ Hkc-Speed.com! RIP Coxx & Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opie Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 US Market will never see them though, with the new emissions standards starting for 07 for diesels even the ones they sell here now dont pass.. They will be popular in the eurpoean market however wher diesel is signifigantly cheaper and widely adopted. http://www.epa.gov/cleandiesel/ Actually these motors are designed to be run on the higher quality type Diesel that Europe already gets. The U.S.'s new Diesel Fuel standard that goes into effect on '07 will be the same quality as Europe's fuel and less polluting than our current Diesel. I expect them to come to our shores...even moreso since the price explosion for U.S. Fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 Here in BMW land we are expecting our turbodiesels to show up when we switch over to the better quality low sulphur diesel. So do not be too surprised to see a diesel Subaru here at some point in time. If I can afford it I will buy a BMW diesel when they show up, not because I don't like Subaru, but because BMW has more experience building high output turbodiesels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyeFlyIsTheEye Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 A 30% reduction in fuel economy? My mileage is too high- I want one of those so I can waste more gas Diesel power for Subaru? 02 September 2005 http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/images/null.gif Subaru is developing a pair of diesel engines for the first time in the firm's history. In true Subaru fashion, the new common rail turbo diesels will be based around the firm's trademark horizontally opposed 'boxer' design. Designed in conjunction with Isuzu, the four cylinder engines will come in two guises, a 2.0 litre developing 111kW and a 135kW 2.2-litre. Subaru originally commissioned Porsche's engineering expertise to design the new diesel units but the production units will be based around an in-house design. The move to develop these new engines is to help improve sales in diesel mad Europe. Expect to see these units to be powering the Impreza and Legacy models by the end of 2006. Also on Subaru's agenda is the development of a Legacy petrol- electric hybrid. With help from electronics giant NEC, the company is making claims that the battery technology used has a life of 15 years while offering a 30 per cent reduction in fuel economy from the car's turbocharged 2.0-litre petrol engine. The electric Legacy is due to go on sale in Japan in 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 moved to news and rumors My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93formula Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Doesn't BMW make a bad ass twin turbo 3.5 i 6 diesel with like 450 lb ft of torque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfxdave99 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Doesn't BMW make a bad ass twin turbo 3.5 i 6 diesel with like 450 lb ft of torque http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/pricesandspecifications_technical_specs/0,4639,1156_2053__bs-NQ%253D%253D%2540bb-TEk%253D%2540bm-TkM5Mg%253D%253D%2540sit-bmwuk,00.html If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93formula Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I want that motor in a 3 series. BMW do it and Im sold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
type b Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 the 330d is available over here - same block, different turbos, so you could make your own.... The diesels over here don't smell, most of them don' t emit particulates and they aren't much noisier at idle than a petrol. If the 2.2 comes in a Spec B I'll be first in line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93formula Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 I want one so bad. Think of a big turbo on that tuned by a big diesel tuner like bullydog or banks. 450-500 hp and 650-750 lb ft or torque. Why can't we be cool like Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
type b Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 'cos your gas quality sucks! And GW is too involved with the oil industry to look beyond the bucks he's making right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdisco Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 I miss my VW TDi, 42+ MPG, filled up every two weeks. Oh yeah, TORQUE baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retslo Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 Yeah give me TDCI anytime. Gobs of torque, great mileage and longevity... Sooner the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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