KFCConspiracy Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Just dropped my car off for the high flow cats and mid pipe work at a local fabricator they'll have it for a couple days. Driving the girlfriends accord is a real drag... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Let us know how she runs after! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 So I know this topic has been brought up before and shot down due to feasibility but I'm going to bring it up again. 6 Speed Swap. So as we know the Legacy GT 6 Speed is a direct bolt on but the costs would be crazy high, apparently that's not necessarily true now. The GT transmission is shared with the 2015+WRX which means their are far more of them now and they are constantly getting made...AND wrecked. I went looking online and found a 2015 WRX totalled ( so they said) with only 2800 miles on the odometer for $500. That's basically a new transmission for a steal! Now I spoke with Al at AMR about the swap. He thinks 2-3k might be the cost if you brought them the manual and didn't buy one. He had no reservations and believed it could be done without too much trouble. So basically 2500-4k gets you a 6 speed swap. Considering a set of brembros can run 2k plus this isn't completely crazy and is a possibility of someone wanted to do say the swap instead of a full suspension and brake kit.  Crazy I know, but not impossible. Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cww516 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 The transmission is the easy part. The hard part is the wiring harness, ECM, dash cluster, and everything else electronic that's expecting a 5EAT. Also, where were you seeing that the '15 WRX uses the same transmission as the GT? As far as I've seen, they're similar, but not identical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 The transmission is the easy part. The hard part is the wiring harness, ECM, dash cluster, and everything else electronic that's expecting a 5EAT. Also, where were you seeing that the '15 WRX uses the same transmission as the GT? As far as I've seen, they're similar, but not identical. Thats what Al said would be the 2-3k. harnesses and the electronics. The ratios are identical between the two transmissions. It's the same way we found the Infiniti M45 had the same transmission as the 3.6R. I would have to confirm the Jatco part but I believe they are identical. Also the transmission was only used 3 years ( the 2.5i had a different 6 Speed) and the WRX doesn't use the same transmission as the STi. I couldn't see Subaru using 2 different 6 speeds unless they had used it already Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cww516 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I thought the 2.5i was the same as the GT, just with different ratios for 5th and 6th? I also kinda thought acumenhokie looked into that when he was working out how to rebuild his transmission and found that they were different. Would definitely be cool if they turn out to be the same, though, more aftermarket parts and longer OEM support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 You're right, they are the same except for 5th and 6th but I know the ratios are identical between the GT and 2015 WRX. Can't answer as to what the differences are besides those two ratios....durability perhaps? Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik94087 Posted June 13, 2015 Author Share Posted June 13, 2015 The 3.6R is not rev-happy, and a manual transmission may exacerbate a potential internal issue. "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBPeik Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 ^^^That, Call me crazy, but it could be Subaru new what they were doing and did not give the 3.6 a manual option for just that reason. As much as us enablers hate to admit it, sometimes the manufacturers know what they are doing. My someday I will be done with it thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 The 3.6R is not rev-happy, and a manual transmission may exacerbate a potential internal issue. The first thing that comes to mind is a Jurassic park quote from Ian Malcolm talking about the park itself "Yes, but they got so preoccupiedwet with if they could they didn't stop to think if they should" That said, you're right., just thought was interesting they didn't have any real concerns or hangups. No one will know for certain what side effects will occur( if any) until someone actually tries. Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik94087 Posted June 13, 2015 Author Share Posted June 13, 2015 Trust me, there will be consequences. "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Consequences don't have to be bad though... Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik94087 Posted June 13, 2015 Author Share Posted June 13, 2015 consequences can be catastrophic...more to come. "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItalianLegacy Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 guessing noone saw the mcm 3.6 do an 11 sec pass  Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItalianLegacy Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 still runs strong today Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Fan Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 guessing noone saw the mcm 3.6 do an 11 sec pass  Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk Link to video??? Or it never happened:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik94087 Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) A few hard runs are different than constant loading and downshifting on a road course while pulling G's. 11 second pass is awesome. Any internal work at all??? Oem oil pan? Oil cooler? A bone stock 3.6r motor is not gonna last long boosted. Maybe it is okay on the street as you cant be on it over and over again. Edited June 14, 2015 by fredrik94087 "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik94087 Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 Good that you keep it low. I allow the transmission to upshift as some short shifts result in a double shift. I may be adding an oil cooler as well which means relocating the aftermarket transmission cooler a bit...it all depends on what unfolds next week. This will result in two coolers in front of the radiator which is not the best scenario. Maybe I can ditch the oem transmission cooler and use that space for an oil cooler. "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Or get a GT hood and locate the oil cooler on top. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik94087 Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share Posted June 16, 2015 That may not be a bad idea. Baffled oil pan in addition to the cooler would be good too. "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 FINALLY the car's in the shop today for the Sway bars. gosh its felt like forever since I ordered the parts.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 So update on the swaybars: The rear went in just fine. The front is having much more trouble. One of the bolts to the brackets will not come out period so they had to remove the bar put the new bar and bushings in, rebolt what they could and they are welding the bracket (not the bushing) to the sub-frame. Obviously there's nothing they can do now to put it to the way it was but does anyone know if there will be anything that I should look out for or be concerned about in doing this?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) Yeah, I wouldn't really do that. Get that bolt out, don't weld the bracket on, that's ghetto. Any shop worth their reputation will be able to do it. Edited June 18, 2015 by GTEASER GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) I agree, they said to get it out might damage the subframe, as it in just won't move. If they won't/can't I will have to have Rob do it next month. edit: From what it sounds like, it actually came that way before they got it so this is something else I have to fix that the previous owner screwed up. Edited June 18, 2015 by Golferdude1087 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFCConspiracy Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Welding that bracket is really janky... They should probably just drill and tap if they can't get it off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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