bms231

updated 7/26

i disagree. most fuel dilution happens on startup when the rings are at their smallest. this is why a lot of people see issues with increasing oil levels when their primary usage is around town driving. 0W-20 is rated for -31F to 86F 5W-30 is rated for -22F to 95F when was the last time you drove your car below 0F? when was the last time you drove your car above 90F? Here in the "south" as in carolinas right now every day we are 91-96 in the summer and on really hot days we can see up to 100-102. so again I argue that the more important number is the one to the right, especially on a turbo vehicle. if i could get away with it i would run 5W-40 based on my climate in summer. in winter i would happily go back to a 0W-30 or 5W-20 or 5W-30.

i emailed that auto start stop company and asked w/o giving away their secret could they tell me how the unit operates and doesn't affect other safety features. clearly it is intercepting a signal. one has to ask themselves, what else is it doing? i suspect they isolated the line the start/stop signal is sent on and on startup it re-sends the last signal stored. but like the 08 DRL "hack" sure your DRL were disabled, but you also lost your high beam indicator. who knows what else is lost. do you really want to figure out by your collision avoidance not working when you need it? there is no way they can test all the functionality to ensure they don't screw anything else up. man i wish we could re-flash the ECU.

yes it says in a pinch you can use 5w-30. japanese manuals for the ascent say you can use 5w-30. all this stupid CAFE stuff in america, despite being the same engine, dictates 0w-20 to get .0000005 more mpg.

I am going to say yes bc you can turn off a setting called vehicle dynamic control.. once you do you get an annoying warning light but u can turn it off.

right now it's not 2020 made. I was made in 3/2020 and have no recalls as of last check for anyone reading.

mine came loaded with the typical intervals... which I changed bc I don't agree with. I will try to remember to take a screen shot

pretty old thread and lots of people talking Rotella. Engines have changed a lot since these days not only with clearances but also composition such as compressed powder valves. Rotella was originally the gold standard for flat tappet cams b/c of it's high zinc content and thus low chances of wiping a cam lobe. These days engines are so well balanced and metals are different the high zinc isn't as important. A few years back rotella changed their formula to actually decrease zinc content so I won't personally use it in some of my older motors. I actually went w/ royal purple HPS 5W-30 or 40 in flat tappet applications b/c of the zinc content...and no it doesn't sludge up like one internet article wrote once upon a time. I would run RP but have a feeling if subaru saw it they would instantly void any warranty.

dood you can google "subaru fuel pump recall" in less words than it took to make this post. results show years, the starting digits of the affected pumps, and hell you can even google "subaru recall" and enter your vin and see if you are affected.

As the subject says. For Legacy Turbo models who will ditch the 0 weight and go with 5W-30 SYNTHETIC? In overseas manuals they list 5W-30 as an option (not just a stop gap if 0w is unavailable). It is only in the US the government is telling us what we need so we can give up longevity and get .00003 miles more per gallon. In my 08LGT I have almost 100K on the clock and purely used 5W-30 conventional as that was the factory recommended oil until 2011 when they stopped fighting with Mobil 1 about cooked turbos and synthetic oil. I never switched to synthetic and my engine is as clean as the day I got her. I do not burn a single drop of oil to this day! I change oil every 3K miles. It's cheap. I was looking to change at 1K miles over to 5W-30 synthetic in the new XT and wondering if anyone else had this thought. Oil consumption on a new vehicle b/c of skinny oils is a bunch of crap. Save .00003 mph but burn oil? How is that better?

One of the first things to do when you get your new legacy is replace the following bulbs with LEDs. Don't buy the dealership's overpriced dome light please. My map lights were LED in the XT so I had to replace dome, trunk, under door, and visor. Two notes, the factory calls for a 31mm festoon. It is too big and you have to really bend the tabs for it to fit. I actually bought the factory oem dome light on ebay for 25 bux and didn't like the fit so bought a 29mm for 10 bux. 29mm has same brightness but doesn't feel like it is going to pop out when I go over a bump. I got these from a company called Diode Dynamics. I included their part numbers. They offer many options as far as intensity and color in each light. Below is what I got. Should cost you about 40 bux. Dome: Bulb Size: 29mm Festoon Color: Cool White (6000K) Required: 1 29mm HP6 LED Bulbs SKU: DD0292S Trunk: Bulb Size: 194 Color: Cool White (6000K) Required: 1 194 HP5 LED Bulbs (brighter than the HP3) SKU: DD0031S Doors: Bulb Size: 194 Color: Cool White (6000K) Required: 2 194 HP3 LED Bulbs (you can get an HP5, but it will blind you) SKU: DD0024P Visors: 28mm SMF2 LED Bulbs (I like bright. They have SMF1 if you don't want as bright. Anything is better than factory) Required: 4

Previously owned an 08 LGT. I have owned a 2020 XT now for 2 months and have put 500 miles on it. Here is what I have found for those who are thinking of buying one. Overall Impression I still own my 08 LGT and like it better. It feels more solid and that it will last longer than the 2020 even though it is 13 years old. The 2020 has a much softer suspension and all the safety features prevent you from having any spirited driving with the car. The 2020 is much quieter and more comfortable than the 08 for highway driving. My 08 came with zero factory defects while my 2020 has paint flaws, undercoat flaws, and had to go back twice for balance/alignment with < 300 miles. All the new tech in the 2020 is nifty, but can be very annoying with all the warnings and lights. When you try to turn them off you often exchange one annoying light for another annoying light. I guess I am just old (only 38), but I feel trapped by the 2020 and that it dictates how I drive vs being able to go out and have a fun spirited drive in my 08. Btw, my life is technology. Maybe that is why it bugs me. All the little imperfections. The way they design these new cars today is nothing but universal chassis with interchangeable parts. Entire engines and suspensions just drop in to multiple vehicles. While cost effective for the manufacturer, it makes a car that never handles like the ones made ten years ago. 7/26/2020 update Went on a 500 mile road trip. Car is now up to just shy of 1K miles. Two things: 1. I have disabled vehicle dynamic control. I have put a piece of black tape over the huge orange light that doesn't dim at night telling you that VDC is off. Why did I disable it? I visited relatives who live on top of a mountain. Going up was perfectly fine. Coming down I was alternative between brakes and paddle shifting to use tranny braking so I didn't overhead the rotors. I came into a sharp left turn about 30mph and was decelerating with my brakes when all of a sudden "bzzzzzzzzzzz" the abs kicked in. Wtf?! I feel it actually attributed to more loss of control than being helpful as I was about 3ft from the end of a mountain cliff. I didn't appreciate it at all and there was absolutely no reason for it to kick in. 2. Collision avoidance is a joke. Situation #1: Same cliff someone slowed down to make a left. I started to steer to the right to go around them and pass by their rear probably within 3 feet as one normally does. Bzzzz bang bing lights brakes. So in this case it was "i am going to cause you to collide b/c I won't let you steer around this guy." Situation #2: U-haul truck comes into my lane and cuts me off. Absolutely nothing from the system. Truck was maaaaaaybe 3ft from my bumper. The system is more of an annoyance than a help. Initial Defects 1. Car came loud as hell from the factory with a whomp whomp sound. Road force balanced. One tire was almost an ounce out of balance. Had to get all tires re-balanced. Red/Yellow manufacturer tire marks were not paid any attention to when mounting tires on the rims. 2. After balance, car still had so much road noise it was hard to hear the radio. Had to take it back to get an alignment. Toe was way out. Once this was fixed the car was dramatically quieter. Previously it was louder than my 2008 LGT. Most of my first 300 miles were taking the car back to the dealer. 3. Factory Defect - Under side of trunk lid (strip where latch is located) is not painted properly on any 2020 legacy. I verified this at the dealership on multiple cars. It's like the robot just over sprays and doesn't actually re-adjust angle to paint the bottom. Call subaru to complain or they will never fix. Dealership offered to paint trunk lid. I didn't want a paint mismatch on a brand new car. Hopefully this wont be a corrosion issue down the line. 4. Factory Defect - Before allowing the undercoating to dry they put the chassis on the line. The four mating points have no under coat protection as they were rubbed off. Two are directly behind the front tires in a high rock wear zone. Dealer offered to rattle can some rubberized under coat on it. Potential Longevity Issues 1. Wheel well liners and under body panels are thin plastic with a felt coating. Why the heck would you ever do this as they attract moisture and mold. The front wheel well liners are insufficient and they rely upon under body coating for protection. 2. Start stop. No clue how it will affect the starter, turbo, or any oiled system. 3. 0w-20 in a turbo? No thank you. 4. I have the light gray interior. My 08LGT has black leather that after 13 years still looks new. After two months the light gray leather on the passenger seat where I have had someone log maybe 2 hours of time is starting to show creases. 5. Soy based wiring. Because petroleum based lasted too long, never broke down, and didn't attract animals, subaru (and toyota) decided to change to soy based wiring covers which already has a class action lawsuit. Animals love to eat it and it is designed to break down. So who knows if these cars will last 10 years or start having weird electrical issues. Dealership Delivery Issues 1. Car was delivered to me with 44PSI in each tire. Dealership forgot to lower them before delivery. 2. Maps and software came out of date to me. I updated maps manually. Now dealing with dealer to get software updated. Don't drive off the lot until you are sure you have the latest software. Annoyances 1. Start/Stop technology. So annoying. The car startup is pretty rough and jolts you around. To turn it off you have to go three menus deep (version 503) and reset the setting EVERY start. In version 504 apparently you go only two deep. No way to permanently disable it which is very very annoying. 2. Lane assist is way overly sensitive. If you turn it off, you get a GIANT and I mean GIANT orange MIL light on your tach. Your choices are to have annoying flashing lights and beeping when you want to drive spiritedly and hug the inside of turns, or turn it off and have a big orange MIL. I put tape over the MIL. 3. Collision avoidance. I drive pretty aggressively. I have had it activate on me twice. Once when I went around a corner into the sun. No cars were on the road in front of me or oncoming. It was purely because of the sun. Second at low speed (< 35mph) I was stopping close to someone and it took over control and pulsed my brakes. 4. Profiles. Although driver recognition recognizes you, if you do not have blue tooth turned on your phone and your passenger who has a profile does the system will A. automatically connect their phone or B. ask you if you want to change profiles. One other really annoying thing is I was following my wife, I had my blue tooth off, she had hers on, the car had recognized me upon entry, we were parked in traffic and she was in the car in front of me and the navi asked if I wanted to switch profiles. 5. Distracted driver. I was driving through a parking lot about 10mph looking for a store and it kept complaining to keep my eyes on the road. 6. Tired driver. Unsure if this was because I had a hat on or have a beard or what, one time I started off and was two minutes into the drive when the car kept telling me to take a break w/ a little coffee cup over and over until I had to stop and restart the car. 7. There is a lot of wind noise around the windows especially in the rear. 8. The doors chirp when you close them quickly. Apparently this is the by product of the new type of seals they use. It is intermittent and depends on how hard you close the door. Navigation I have the 11.6. Get a glass touch screen protector for it. They have several on amazon, but for tablet PCs. You can find them w/o pre-cut holes. Any 11.6 will fit just fine. The My Subaru app and StarLink stuff are pretty worthless IMO as it is basically an owners manual. Other than that I honestly have no real gripes. I don't use apple or android auto. I tried android auto and the screen was so small. I didn't see the point when you have built in navigation and everything else integrates such as phone/text/contacts etc.. I had automatic maps turned on, but they didn't updated so I had to download the map update online and manually update. FYI when you turn on your car it doesn't detect the update. You have to go into the software settings and choose to update and select your usb drive. Actually, one gripe. Many of the "car" settings can only be modified with the engine running and the car not moving. Wtf? If you are driving they are grayed out. It would be nice to be able to adjust them with ACC/ON and w/o the engine running. Transmission Yea, it is a CVT. It is ok. It had decent acceleration and response for what it is. My only grip is transition from R to D. It takes WAY too long and sometimes slams in on me because I start to accelerate before it decided to "shift" into a forward gear. So now I wait about 6 seconds before going instead of the usual 2. Engine Time will tell. For what it is, it has some acceleration to it. Again not a race car, but will move. Hopefully this engine last me 100K like my current one. I wish I could do an oil catch line but all the lines are these hard plastic anti tamper things wrapped every which way around the engine making it really hard to add a catch can. Cool features 1. Driver Recognition is pretty awesome. It sets your seats to where you want and should automatically load things like hvac settings, phone, radio, etc... 2. Smart cruise control is sweet. Keeps you in the lane and keeps an appropriate following distance. 3. If they worked well I would say collision avoidance and lane assist. Good ideas, but still need work. 4. Headlights that turn with you 5. Audio system seems pretty nice. I wish they would have hid the sub better instead of putting it off center in the package tray area. I know it seems mostly negative. I will update if I find anything else. So far to me it seems like it is a car, it will drive, it has some annoyances, I am 50/50 on it after owning 2 other subarus. Definitely buy the 10 year warranty! Would I buy it again, probably b/c all cars are going this way. Flame suit on. One random note on the tire situation: I am a bit sad at this fact bc we thought it was a faulty tire. Subaru corporate said call Yokohama. What? That is Subaru's job IMO. Yokohama said if THEY determine it to be a faulty tire (fat chance) they will replace it, but your car has to sit at the dealer while the tire is mailed to them to be checked. They will either mail you a new tire or your old one back. I was just amazed at how a car with < 200 miles on it Subaru wouldn't do anything about tire noise. Eventually Subaru offered to replace it, but their stance is once you drive it off the lot it is your problem. My stance is if I discover a problem within the first 500 miles they should fix it.

there is a known class action lawsuit against this and a recall what is the manufacture date of your legacy?

yes. my 2020 XT has a full screen of IMO too many maintenance reminders. oil, tire rotation, etc.. also allows you to schedule service through the touch screen.

ugh. i have been to stations in the crossroads, morrisville, and cary area. can't find the stuff. granted the ones i am going to are the more popular stations. maybe that is the issue. i dunno.

so what are you raleigh based people doing for premium? i can't find it locally. got 3/4 of a tank left and am riding my motorcycle everywhere. i normally put 89 in my bike as it idles goofy w/ 87. i can't even find that. this is so rediculous. god bless america.

yay i just got my first motorcycle today! http://www.suzukicycles.com/images/ProductImages/logo/500/GS500FK8.jpg 2007 Suzuki GS500F with 1500 miles on it. Only 3500 bux.

dang so no one wants the rifle? on sunday i put it in a shop to be sold.

I actually just spent 3500 on a 2007 gs500f. only 1400 miles. thing is brand new! so that will be my learner bike.

yay i got my motorcycle permit today. no bike yet though. still afraid to buy w/o having ridden one before. i did decide i am going to go used instead of getting a brand new shiny r6. this way i wont have collision or comprehensive.

do any of u gents have a motorcycle that could teach me how to ride? i REALLY want an r6 but I don't feel like getting killed and all MSF courses are scheduled out to the end of september. i will compensate you for your time.

too bad man. it is a beauty. I could take 200 now and 250 in a month. this weekend i was going to go put it at younggunsinc near me on consignment to see if it sells. the problem there is, to make it worth while i only want to sell it for 450 and the shop takes 50 of that. booo.

awesome. she is a beauty and i really really HATE to see her go. i was going to bring her to a gun shop tomorrow, but check it out and PM me back and we will see what you want to do. you can always stop by and check it out.

not sure if any of you are interested, but i am selling one of my toys. I am selling it for $450 firm. Specs: Yugoslavian SKS 7.62 - 422c federally compliant Replacement parts (some for fun, some for compliance reasons): Stock - Tapco T-6 Adjustable w/ Boyonet Cutout - $89 TripleK 30rd Steel Magazine - $36 Zytel Gas Tube Assembly (all new) - $50 Bolt Carrier - $20 Spring Loaded Stainless Firing Pin - $35 (prevents slam fire) Operating Rod - $7 Operating Rod Spring - $7 Gas Piston Stainless - $30 Gas Valve Stainless - $29 Leapers SKS Scope Mount - $35 Shell Deflector - $10 NcStar 3-9 zoom x 42 Scope - $47.95 Case - $19.99 Grenade Launcher style Muzzle Brake - $30 UTG Bi-Pod - $35 98% of the parts came from http://www.sksman.com so you can verify the pricing is accurate. Total Value with parts: $630.94 (after tax and shipping it was more) Asking Price: $450.00 Will require a valid NC pistol permit to purchase. Due to the lethality of this weapon we will go through an FFL dealership where your background will be checked. This puppy can fire as fast as you can pull the trigger and with 30rd mags the last thing I want is to see someone in the news with this firearm. Here are his original pix he sent me: http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b181/bms231/sks/DSCF2488.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b181/bms231/sks/DSCF2486.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b181/bms231/sks/DSCF2485.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b181/bms231/sks/DSCF2484.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b181/bms231/sks/8x6_scale.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b181/bms231/sks/DSCF2489.jpg