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that attitude is the problem with america. you need to hold engineers to better standards otherwise you get shit products. would you want to set your home hvac to 62 to get a comfortable temp of 68? no. why should you have to deal with a defect when you pay good money for something.

Wife and I noticed this the past few times we have been out. The dang car is insufferable. My LGT I set to 68 and it was fine. I set this thing to 68 and it keeps getting hotter and hotter and hotter. Sitting waiting in traffic today we had to put the AC all the way down to LO to get cold air circulating. Apparently I am not the only one: https://www.subaruoutback.org/threads/heater-blowing-too-hot-air.516187/page-3 Some people have to set the hvac to 62/63 to maintain around 70 degrees in the cabin. That is insane. Anyone with a legacy experiencing this issue (among the other 50 the car has)?

anyone with an auto start stop eliminator get a software flash yet? wondering if i should remove it before going to the dealer.

he is talking about the crap tastic felt liner they now put in wheel wells and underbody that collects moisture and molds vs the good old sturdy plastic that will last forever. thank you 0 landfill promise for making cars crappy.

adding yet another item to the list. hvac auto mode sucks major balls and i am not the only one. have to set it on 62 in order for it not to get balls hot in the winter. https://www.subaruoutback.org/threads/heater-blowing-too-hot-air.516187/page-3

just had to remove the glove box. super easy. open it and disconnect the piston on the right then squeeze the sides together and it will drop down and out.

If there are more I have missed let me know and I can update this post. Something like this should be stickied. This is for the 11 inch touch screen nav. Dealership Mode On either side, hold down BOTH temp UP and temp DOWN buttons simultaneously While keeping them held down, press the volume or tune knob SIX times This may take a few times to get timing perfect. Can't go too fast or too slow. Pretty much a half second apart. Menus: Connection - shows the status of various ports/connected devices GPS/MIC/CAM/AUX/USB1/USB2/DCM/CAN/Meter/CID/LeatherAmp/SXM BT/Wifi is available in Factory Mode, but it is assumed the factory has some special testing signal it connects to Function Check - shows which buttons are being pressed and what is being touched on the screen as well as information about various components and their functionality -Panel and Steering Switch Press a button on the steering wheel or the knobs and it will tell you what the car thinks is being pressed -Touch Switch As you move around the screen it tell syou where you last touched and how many points the screen detects (up to 2 max) -Microphone Shows front and rear mic levels -Navigation System Sensor --System Sensors Check Detailed information about reception and GPS data, Gyros, Angle Sensors, Speed and can reset them --GNSS Information Shows information about satellites you are connected to and their strength as well as date/time and long/lat. System Information Product Info and Version info of various things in your car Vehicle Signal Shows the following: Battery Voltage Ignition Status Parking Break Status (PKB) REV Status Steering Angle Speed ILL+ Status Bright Status Diagnostics Recorder Begin recording, export to USB, clear recorded data. This is used as a flight recorder. Settings Memory Initialization - will wipe everything Camera Settings -Restore Default -Static Guide Line -Caution - Toggle off to remove the warning text from your backup camera -Camera Settings DMS Demo Mode Driver Monitoring System demo mode. Yea don't touch this. Software Update Factory Mode On either side hold down BOTH temp UP and temp DOWN buttons While keeping them held down, press the volume knob in TWICE This may take a few times to get timing perfect. Don't press too fast or too slow. About a half second between presses. Menus: Vehicle Signal Shows the following: Battery Voltage Ignition Status Parking Break Status (PKB) REV Status Steering Angle Speed ILL+ Status Bright Status Camera Options -Restore Default -Static Guide Line -Caution - Toggle off to remove the warning text from your backup camera -Camera Settings Audio Check Speaker Output Frequency Speaker Output Intensity Speaker Check - plays loud white noise out of all speakers Microphone Shows front and rear mic levels Connection GPS/MIC/CAM/AUX/USB1/USB2/DCM/CAN/Meter/CID/BT/Wifi/LeatherAmp/SXM Statuses BT/Wifi often set to NG assuming factory has some special testing signal it connects to Engine Priming with electric ignition: How to COLD CRANK with electronic ignition from a subaru tech. I have not tried this personally. Car is off Press down brake pedal Press down accelerator FULLY to 100% Press ignition This will cause the starter to cycle the engine and prime it. Especially helpful after an oil change.

totally agree on the Monday car. had to have an alignment at 184 miles bc toe was so far out of spec the road noise was unbearable above 60. side note called Subaru and they said they will take my feedback into consideration.in short tough shit.

updated the first post w/ some images of the horrible panel gaps. i literally just noticed. not sure if it was always this way or what. 5mm difference side to side is huge.

So this crap happened today. Add it to my list of annoyances. This guy was 5 car lengths in front of me. I was doing 42-46mph. Whip lashed my neck b/c I wasn't expecting this especially b/c I hit the accelerator pedal to go to the let lane and get out of the way. Nope, car had something totally different in mind. and i am just making a playlist of all the annoying things. Here are two rattles you guys may come across due to cost cutting and poor quality. One is an air vent director tube behind the glove box below the dash. The other is the wire connecting the smart mirror. I thought the later was coming from below the dash, but it was this stupid smart mirror wire. 10 cents worth of foam fixed both these issues. I officially regret this car at this point. I have to drive it like an 80 year old. It has good power, some good options, but screams too much government control for my liking. I can't just go out and drive and have fun without some "safety" thing going off and in the case above... for no damn reason. Literally tired of the brakes locking up every time someone merges into traffic. Oh, side note, buddy of mine who has 17K miles on his started to have his upper oil pan leak. Second time this has happened to him. He sold his accent b/c it happened and now it happened a year later on his new legacy. They gotta pull the engine to fix it.

this thread has turned out to be awesome. I will add one new one to the mix my dash started to rattle this evening with less than 2,000 mi on the car. it's up by the defrost vents. it's amazing everything is held together by plastic clips. what do they think was going to happen. I also had a rattle underneath the glove box and took it out and found that one of the vent directors towards your feet was completely loose. https://youtu.be/UNEsoXcUacs

for anyone who has gotten this update do u see an option to customize icon colors? i requested this and they said they would put something in there. i got tired of purple radio buttons.

1. Rough turn over on initial start. When the car sits overnight, the first start of the day (in a heated garage that is 62 degrees) feels like someone kicks the engine and the whole car shakes. Does anyone else notice that? Once it is warmed up for started/stopped more frequently it's fine but the longer it sits it just has a really rough turn over that shakes the whole car. Kinda like starting an old prop airplane. 2. CVVT chirp. Start up the car, let it run for a minute, reverse down my driveway, stop completely, go into D. in about 2 seconds it goes CHIRP and then eventually goes into gear. Subaru has a tech note on this saying it is completely normal. Old school me it's like belts slipping but they say no it's fine. Seriously neighbors look at me. 3. Today it was 37 degrees. Bright orange full screen and beep letting me know there may be icy conditions followed by a smaller orange light which stayed on that is a road w/ a snow flake in it. What the heck. Any way to disable that? 4. Body roll sensor is for old people. Take a turn too fast and bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz abs brakes body role sensor thinks you are going to die so it hits the brakes. 5. Collision avoidance is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too sensitive. 6. Lots of rattles at only 2200 miles 7. At least 6 seconds between R and D shifting when backing out of the driveway first thing in the morning... plus... cvvt chirp 8. Horrible paint quality. Bottom of rockers are not painted. Bottom of trunk lid not painted. Just overspray. 9. Felt lined wheel well liners collecting mud/water/mold. 10. Inadequate underbody liner behind front wheel wells where rocks hit. You can tell this is where the car comes down the production line on the machine. They just never go back and touch it up but instead leave metal in a high rock area. 11. huge difference in panel gaps. 5mm difference between rear driver and passenger doors. My playlist of annoying rattles and collision avoidance failures: 12. panel gaps are horrible 13. hvac auto mode sucks major balls and i am not the only one. have to set it on 62 in order for it not to get balls hot in the winter. https://www.subaruoutback.org/threads/heater-blowing-too-hot-air.516187/page-3

Just curious if they made any changes. Looked online and everything seems the same.

wait..... so the button is there but does it default to ON after ever engine restart?

just reporting in... installed the ASE on my car about a week ago and has been running perfectly fine. even got to test collision avoidance. everything seems to work as intended.

Published 8/25/2020 Map Version: 40649 North America: 2003DB

yes hood scoop would have been excellent

disabled it and put a black sticker over the light. too annoying.

usually does it if you leave your keys in the car. are they within range?

ummm.... i have 2020 vacation pix. just no where to host.

Subaru just sent out this email: The STARLINK update will improve: Apple CarPlay® You asked for it and you have been waiting for it - Apple CarPlay full screen is finally here. The full screen view will create an even better experience than you already enjoy. (With the release of iOS14 later this year, you'll see even more improvements in your Subaru when you update your iPhone). Improved CarPlay boot up time. Turn-by-turn navigation directions for CarPlay now show in the gauge cluster (between speedometer/odometer) and info bar (under clock). Carplay music can now be seen and controlled under the STARLINK Media app. Android Auto™ Boot up time improved Android Auto music can now be seen and controlled under the STARLINK Media app. SiriusXM® Introducing Smart Favorites for your SiriusXM presets. You’ll see a new star icon on the top right of the preset to indicate it’s a Smart Favorite. With this feature, you can skip back to the start of a song or even to prior songs from the time your vehicle was started. Boot up time improved Album artwork will be displayed while the vehicle is in motion, from any music source. For TomTom® navigation equipped vehicles: Map orientation preference now saved after restart. Vehicle location triangle now easier to see Map Updates Over the Air have been fully enabled. You will be able to get a map update over Wi-Fi or using the STARLINK smartphone app sometime in August of 2020. Stay tuned for another communication. In the meantime, map updates can be also downloaded from subaru-maps.com onto a USB drive. You can now customize the vehicle Bluetooth name to something other than Subaru. (This is ideal for homes with more than one Subaru in the driveway and multiple phones paired to each). This update also resolves the following bugs: Blank home screen EQ settings lost and revert to factory default CarPlay connection cannot be established Bluetooth connection can not be reestablished Media source cannot be changed Radio station does not resume playing Display freezes after inserting a CD White dots appear on display System reboots after starting the car Overall stability and performance improvements Update instructions: https://subaruofamerica-mkt-prod1-t.campaign.adobe.com/r/?id=h19fbc042,2c375061,21d4a44a&SIE=1aa30ca91847ddbbd071149a72e84be258c9dc253e56ac17aec169ee1418eb7b&delivery_id=741822561&cid=20MarchinsiderOwner&bid=1-1SJC-26 I got the update from the dealer and it has navigation POI features, clock setting updates, and a few other little things.

yea what you said is completely illogical. what were they going to do... put the car up on a lift for me? 2 of 3 "defects" are under the car. a bad alignment and unbalanced wheel was on my new car, not the one that was test driven. as far as the features, what am I going to take a car I don't own and try to get in an accident with it to see if the collision avoidance system works? sorry I didn't have access to a mountain on my test drive? everything was gone over with a fine tooth comb and all items addressed except when i got to a place with 12 8ft long dual led strip lights (my garage) I noticed flaws in the paint. i know there are more folks out there like me and I am trying to share what it is like going from an 08 to a 2020. thanks to federal mandates, unless you have 200K to drop on a ferarri, you are going to get these annoyances in the name of safety. nothing can be done about that other than to pick the least of all evils.

FYI u turn it off, huge orange light, then turns back on with next start. awful.

so I emailed them asking how their device works. below is the response I got. i was correct in my assumptions. you are basically getting a capacitor that stores the last signal received and transmits it again the next time you start the vehicle. Our device really has nothing to do with the stereo camera. It's just a place to connect to the bus. (If you're interested, research CAN bus.) It's a digital circuit, and our device sends a signal your vehicle is designed to receive to turn auto start/stop off. There are no hacks or gimmicks at play to cause side-effects. It's all very straightforward. Thanks, but we don't need testers for the Legacy. The Outback device we have will work fine, we just haven't had time to add the Legacy to the website. https://www.autostopeliminator.com/collections/subaru/products/2020-subaru-outback-autostop-eliminator Travis Lambert TRL Automotive