frank_ster Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 No codes. When it happens, I have the gas pedal to the floor, and it takes over 3 seconds to go from 20-40.....then at 40 it's fine....it doesn't always happen, maybe every few days, but is a really annoying problem. I never know when I have enough power to pull out or pass someone. I know it's not a 10 sec car, but I know it has to be faster accelerating to 40 mph then it is. that sounds like a stock 5 eat when its hot after sitting in traffic It could be a blown turbo... how many miles are on the car... also check for shrapnel from your turbo in the oil pan if the turbo is damaged it would be all the time Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 yes but same goes for the other cats if are blocked or not blocked not back and forth In some rare cases (2 particular 2.0t Subies) we have seen where the UP catalyst became detached and would get sucked up against the upper flange hole under heavy throttle. Then it would fall back down when not. Not very common but if he had a catted up pipe it could have been the issue. Since he is catless UP already not an issue. -mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05wagongt Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 ok I had the day off and took my car for a drive. When I'm in sport and shift myself, it accelerates like it should. I stop at 80mph. When I try the same thing in just "D" it big down around 15-20 and stays that way until 40.... So is there a chance it's some sort of tranny issue? Doesn't make sense I can hammer it in Manual and it has the power it should but in drive it's not there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05wagongt Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 So far I checked the oil pan, no shavings or metal, have checked the turbo, it's fine, and had a member hook up a laptop and look at it while I was driving and that lv came back normal....I checked all hoses and saw no holes or loose connections.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 So in automatic mode you floor it and it bogs down ? What are the rpms ? I would like a video of the cluster Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 In some rare cases (2 particular 2.0t Subies) we have seen where the UP catalyst became detached and would get sucked up against the upper flange hole under heavy throttle. Then it would fall back down when not. Not very common but if he had a catted up pipe it could have been the issue. Since he is catless UP already not an issue. -mike Yea but he said its ok at wot once he gets going. Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05wagongt Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 So in automatic mode you floor it and it bogs down ? What are the rpms ? I would like a video of the cluster Yes it is like I'm towing a tank thru sand.... I am retarded on how to post pics and vids, if you can pm me your email I took a 10 sec vid yesterday. Rpms don't go past2500-3000 when it happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I am leaning toward a transmission issue, because if you shift it manually it is working properly, it seems the transmission is doing something out of the ordinary in automatic mode. -Mike Paisan http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/91072632.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/145749898/original.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/133406601.jpg http://www.whiteline.com.au/images/logos/perf1.jpg 11+ Years Maintaining, Modifying and Educating TriState Subaru Enthusiasts. Like us on Facebook! | E-mail: sales@azpinstalls.com | 725 Fairfield Ave | Kenilworth, NJ 07033 | 908.248.AZP1 (2971) |AIM: AZP Installs "Race Tested, Enthusiast Approved!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05wagongt Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 I emailed a video of me doing a 60-90 roll to frank ster. I have it floored, I counted almost 8 seconds to go from 60-90ph. I had it manual mode and it was in 5, Rpms don't jump like they should when you floor a car, they slowly climb like I have a cvt tranny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 ^ seems the tranny is working correctly... have you looked into the waste gate flapper going a-wall ? kinda looks like what the problem is. Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/wastegate-walked-need-new-turboi-193451.html Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05wagongt Posted July 21, 2013 Author Share Posted July 21, 2013 http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/wastegate-walked-need-new-turboi-193451.html I'll check that tomorrow. I hope that is it, because I'm banging my head against a wall trying to diagnose the issue. if it is the problem, what is the best route to go? The turbo on there now is only 6 weeks old, purchased from subaru.... if I get a whole different turbo, what are my options on a stock 5eat tranny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Don't worrie about the tranny Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05wagongt Posted July 21, 2013 Author Share Posted July 21, 2013 I'm hoping that I get a new turbo from subaru because its still under warranty. If not i might go a different route, saw a lot of ppl here running a 16g. Can my stock 5eat handle that? what else is needed for that turbo to fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 ^ if its a recent turbo it really shouldn't have the wastegate flapper moved sideways .. could be but i don't think high probability. well get a boost gauge . Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanjk3 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 My car seems to be a bit slower lately too, but then I remember I have the AC on. A 5EAT LGT isn't slow when you're coming from a '95 Legacy 2.2L. Friends don't let friends drink cheap beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 the a/c doesn't affect anything power wise ... the ecm turns off the a/c compressor of over iirc 4000 rpm. and on top of that it would take less than 3 hp. and that is roughly 1% of the hp from the engine. Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasAyinde Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 A/C clutch engaging creates parasitic loss which is enough to be a bit noticeable in low hp cars but I think air temperature causes a more noticeable loss in power in our cars. If his car seems slower when the A/C is on, there may be another issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1055 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Not just 4k ro m for the comoressor.. its anytime you go WOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05wagongt Posted July 22, 2013 Author Share Posted July 22, 2013 I am going to swallow my pride and has the local subaru dealer look at it. I have tried everything I can think of and that was mentioned for me to try in the posts in this thread except the boost gauge. car is running like pure ass right now, no power once I hit 60 mph unless I am flooring it from a 1-5 manual run....but just cruising on the highway I can't pass a Prius going 65....oil is fresh and clean, tranny fluid was done by subaru not too long ago, I love the car. When it runs right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I wouldn't trust a dealer with it, but that's just me. See if you can find a subaru specific shop, heck you shouldn't be terribly far from TIC in OH? -Mike Paisan http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/91072632.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/145749898/original.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/133406601.jpg http://www.whiteline.com.au/images/logos/perf1.jpg 11+ Years Maintaining, Modifying and Educating TriState Subaru Enthusiasts. Like us on Facebook! | E-mail: sales@azpinstalls.com | 725 Fairfield Ave | Kenilworth, NJ 07033 | 908.248.AZP1 (2971) |AIM: AZP Installs "Race Tested, Enthusiast Approved!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1055 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Don't feel bad about it man. Even working at an independent shop we have to send cars to the dealer sometimes. Sometimes you just need a factory scantool to really get the full picture, regardless of what you can do without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05wagongt Posted July 22, 2013 Author Share Posted July 22, 2013 Do you have a website or address? I wouldn't trust a dealer with it, but that's just me. See if you can find a subaru specific shop, heck you shouldn't be terribly far from TIC in OH? -Mike Paisan http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/91072632.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/145749898/original.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/133406601.jpg http://www.whiteline.com.au/images/logos/perf1.jpg 11+ Years Maintaining, Modifying and Educating TriState Subaru Enthusiasts. Like us on Facebook! | E-mail: sales@azpinstalls.com | 725 Fairfield Ave | Kenilworth, NJ 07033 | 908.248.AZP1 (2971) |AIM: AZP Installs "Race Tested, Enthusiast Approved!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05wagongt Posted July 22, 2013 Author Share Posted July 22, 2013 Don't feel bad about it man. Even working at an independent shop we have to send cars to the dealer sometimes. Sometimes you just need a factory scantool to really get the full picture, regardless of what you can do without it. That is my thoughts, I wish there was a tuning shop or subaru shop near me, I'm in middle of no where. Like 1 hour past pittsburgh heading north, and like 45 mins from youngstown Ohio. I'm In farmland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Here is their FB Page: https://www.facebook.com/turninconcepts You also might look toward Buffalo, there is a shop in Buffalo that specializes in Subies too: http://www.innovativetuning.com/about/ -mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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