mwm5094 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Idk how much they help if your suspension is stock otherwise, but I had eibach springs on my car and was pumped to test drive the car when all the sways and end links were in. I starting ripping around corners like "wtf, this didn't do much at all, idk what all the hype is about". Then I installed coils and was like "I should have spend my money on this in the first place" night and day difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCHM1AN Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I know sways aren't an end/all-be/all, but i just thought everyone would have a favorable opinion of them. Next for me is Bilstein HDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrw Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 It was a big difference to me :shrug: I had h-techs installed by themselves first then went with the hotchkis setup. Then I added Koni's :love: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 You're talking to one shop and reading one post here? There's nothing more I can do to help you. My "been there, done that" experience is worthless. Between your thread title and the use of "assume", you're doomed. :spin: i'm sure i'll be fine i'm going to assume... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated thefultonhow Posted July 11, 2012 I Donated Share Posted July 11, 2012 Some of the ideas here are amusing to say the least. By far the best bang for the buck is fixing your power steering system. $6. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1799692 My power steering system isn't broken, and I'm guessing most people on here have working power steering too. Thanks, though. BTW, I thought everyone knew they needed to get everything on their car in proper working order before they started modding? Basic maintenance is just that -- basic. We're talking about upgrades here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users seabass07 Posted July 11, 2012 Mega Users Share Posted July 11, 2012 By far, the best bang for buck is to ignore any advice from turbodog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted July 11, 2012 I Donated Share Posted July 11, 2012 Sways make a big difference to someone who actually knows how to drive. Amateurs think they are useless, because they can't tell the differences in suspension changes. They know two suspensions.....soft and hard. -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwm5094 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Oh, so you actually know how to drive? You make is seem like you race for Ferrari. Run your car with a good set of coils on full stiff on stock sways. Now go and put some sways on it. You think you will tell a difference? What I was saying was that maybe for a stock setup sways make a difference but for what I already had done to my car, it didn't. My friend auto crosses his spec b and does really well. When I convinced him to get coils he said it should have been his first suspension mod. So you want to talk about the mod that affects handling the most, coils or good struts and springs and tires. So why spend $700 on sways and endlinks when you could pick up a set of used coils for that and make a bigger difference? Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHellrais3R Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 If you upgrade your suspension regardless to anything stiffer than stock, the stock sway bar mounts won't last very long. On my koni/epic setup with stock sways at the time, the stock sway bar mounts eventually became completely horizontal. There is definitely a difference with sways on stock and on aftermarket suspension obviously you won't feel much if your running crazy spring rates likes 10k or something. At that point you don't even need sway bars really since all it will do is cause you to tripod entirely too much and just loose time/traction around turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Oh, so you actually know how to drive? You make is seem like you race for Ferrari. Run your car with a good set of coils on full stiff on stock sways. Now go and put some sways on it. You think you will tell a difference? What I was saying was that maybe for a stock setup sways make a difference but for what I already had done to my car, it didn't. Funny, sways made a bigger difference for me than my KW2's. Tires made the biggest difference (245 kdw2). I dont think you are putting down more power than I am. I doubt you are any better a driver than I am. My friend auto crosses his spec b and does really well. When I convinced him to get coils he said it should have been his first suspension mod. So you want to talk about the mod that affects handling the most, coils or good struts and springs and tires. 1. tires 2. sways 3. struts Maybe its not always that order but in a 4thG LGT it is. IN A SPEC B EVEN MORE SO. The B in spec B is for BILSTEIN. Its already GOT upgraded struts So why spend $700 on sways and endlinks when you could pick up a set of used coils for that and make a bigger difference? Hmmm Because they don't and what you are saying is not based on reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodog Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Actually, if you are running fairly stiff coilovers, you may prefer a relatively light swaybar. Most people put sways on first, and never try the stock bars with coilovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwm5094 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I'm actually Ken Block lmao. But seriously, I ran my cusco front and Whiteline rear for ~10k with springs without reinforcement brackets and my stock onces didn't so much as think about moving. If you read in the reviews section people oversell sways. I read on here somewhere that some guy was taking on ramps at 60 and he starting taking them at 95 and felt safe. That's how BIG they were talked up. I literally cannot do another suspension mod (including bushings) and the fastest I've gone around an on ramp was 80. Unless that guys turn was super wide... So back to the point, all I was really saying was that I was disappointed and didn't notice much at all. Maybe it's my setup? Maybe it's just in my head? I don't think I'm a superb driver, I'm def not bad but I can tell differences. Not just soft and hard. I could tell a difference from eibach, to s tech, to swift springs soooo idk. My car handles fantastic and that's all that really matters to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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