cfaber Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Hey guys, Recently noticed the cruise control light is blinking with no CEL. I've read a few possibilities and would like some more input. Here's what the car has done to it: Cobb AP with the AP flashed to stage 1, however it's running temporary flash of econ mode. cat deleted up pipe with EGT sensor removed and deleted. K&N filter. cleaned MAF and IAT sensor(s) New plugs and moved the coil packs around (it was throwing misfire on 4, however I'm 99% sure it was because the plug on that cylinder was gapped WAY out of spec) Double checked the gas cap to make sure it was tight. I just had the car smogged (passed without issue) and the gas cap passed leak down test. Ideas? Winning the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted June 22, 2012 Moderators Share Posted June 22, 2012 Can you pull the code with learning view? There should be a temporary code even without a CEL. "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJuan Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Sometime if you hit the CC button on accident, it would blink. It's happen to me a few time. My wife's balls are delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfaber Posted June 22, 2012 Author Share Posted June 22, 2012 Yeah I tried to pull any code that might be there but there wasn't anything. F1 in my case even after shutting the car off and turning it back on again it's still doing it. I figured if it was resistor failure for the EGT sensor it would CEL and there would be a code. I've seen this once before when I didn't have the gas cap tight, but in this case, I double checked that and still nothing. Winning the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfaber Posted June 22, 2012 Author Share Posted June 22, 2012 I should also note that this is a new (8 months old or so) ECM, the last one was replaced under recall (fan relay failure) Winning the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfaber Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 So updating this thread. No blinking CC light today. Still no clue why the hell it started blinking in the first place. It would be really nice to know what this means when this thing blinks without CEL. Winning the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technicalgarage Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 If you touch the CC button or the stalk while you turn the car on (simulating a failed switch), the CC light will blink to indicate a fault with the CC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Apparently, this may also happen when tires spin out of control (e.g. a couple of times I was pushing the car pretty hard in deep snow and at one point, the CC light started to blink which temporarily disabled the CC. And I had no CEL. Turned off the car. Turned it back on a few minutes later, back to normal. Happened twice. But it's not snowing right, soooo not sure what happened to you.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfaber Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 Hi, So I'm sure I didn't hit the Cc button (multiple times) upon shutting the car off and back on again over the course of the day. I know for a fact that you can invoke this behavior if you don't have a gas cap on. I suspect maybe a false positive reading from the sensor that tests that? It was very hot out that day and I did just have the gas cap tested (emissions evap test) so possibly the test equipment messed something up temporarily. I wish someone from SOA could speak up here and provide a definitive answer as to what the blinking Cc light means as it seems all the other threads on here describing this problem are dead ends and nobody seems to actually know what's up (just speculation). Winning the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseyglock Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Could be the o-ring, sits between intake and TGV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbc84 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 How bout MAF sensor cable loose on intake? I think I remember that causing my CC light to come on, but I dont remember if the CEL came on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfaber Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share Posted June 27, 2012 Not likely, you'll throw a CEL with MAF IAT Failure or Low / High readings. Winning the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Happened to me today. I replaced the right front wheel bearing/hub last night. While driving on the highway, going down a long hill in curise, the car dropped out of CC and the CC light started flashing. When I got to work. I sshut the car off, than started it, no blinking CC light. I know I have had to grind down the washer on the neutral safety switch to solve the dropping out of cruise a few years back. But when it did that, I just had to re-set the CC and all was fine, it never flashed. I'll try CC again on the ride home later today. I did notice it felt like the car saw surging when in CC today ??? 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I am betting on the ABS messing up with the CC. I could be wrong but that's what my gut feeling is telling me. http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/287682-post17.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 No codes, I didn't use CC on the drive home. Tomorrow I'll wait until I'm on more level highway before trying CC. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Today, I didn't turn the CC on until after about 10 miles of driving. I turned it on but did not engage it. After about 2-3 minutes, the CC light started flashing. Called the Auto Parts store. He said the bearing/hub would not effect CC, the wheel speed sensor picks up off the axle. I guess I'll pull it back out, clean everything in there and try it again. The hub install went easy, so I'm sure I didn't damage anything. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Ok Here's the fix. I stopped by my trusted mechanic, I have been dealing with him since the mid 1980's. He put this on the car http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale/wholesale-maxidas-ds708-scan-tool.html Found a hidden code in the ABS system, cleared it, set it up on data logging and told me to go drive the car. He told me what to watch for. I made 6 loops in cruise control on one of the back roads, took it back, all was fine. I left the CC on, drove home, used CC coming across the top of the mountain. All seems fine. He told me if I ever wanted to use the scanner over the weekend to stop by and pick it up. Now that's service. So may be the next time this happens. May be the fix is to pull the battery cable for 15 minutes if you don't have a scan tool. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 ABS it was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Yes, I do notice that the car is not smooth in CC now. Thinking about pulling the battery cable for 15 minutes. Then try CC on the drive to work on Monday. I may do that in the morning it's 96F out on. Just finished putting down some grass seed and a yard of top soil. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfaber Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 The ABS thing might be the ticket, so hows everyones brakes? Mine are ready to be replaced.. Btw, it's blinking again =) Winning the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Try disconnecting the battery....15 minutes. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfaber Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 Right, that'll zero it out, but I'd just assume fix it =) Winning the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfaber Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 Plus having to do the seat belt chime trick over and over is not exciting =) Winning the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 It's back...If it wasn't so hot out I might pull the hub back out and see what's up. But I'll swing by my buddies and see if he wants the car for a day or so. He can tell me whats wrong, if its the hub I'll replace that, if it's something else, I'll let him fix it. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 My guess is that whoever changed your wheel bearing may have messed up a bit the ABS sensor or something related to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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