iamareplicant Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Sirs/Ladies, I have been lurking on this site since it was created and have a question for you experts (and btw, got-DAMN, some of you are serious mental cases when it comes to extensive knowledge about aftermarket mods - I read your technical posts and would love to have about an hour to chat with you - but alas, no, and hence this post) Onwards. I bought one of the first '05 LGT 5sp in '04. It now has 88K miles, and though it has had a few mechanical issues, the car is mechanically flawless, bone stock, and is perfect except for a few paint nicks. I have a budget right now that would allow me to do 1 of 2 things: trade in my beloved Subaru and get something (new) and considerably faster, or buy another (additional) pedestrian daily driver, and take the money I have saved by not purchasing just 1 new car, and instead mod my Subaru. I have chosen the latter for many reasons, the biggest being that if I could have my car today, but with 350 or so bhp AND the rest of the car in balance (brakes, suspension, etc, etc), it would be the car that I would buy if I someone made it. So that is what I am going to do - buy a 350hp Subaru Legacy GT (by starting with my own stocker), and as a bonus, it will be exactly the way I want it to be. And just in case someone mentions it, I do not like the size or looks of the WRX STI in any year or configuration - I want to start with my car. Finally, my car is worth about $10-12K grand today. Therefore, after putting in the $13K or so, I will have an approx. $23K car that is fast, handles great, and is exactly what I want. That, to me, is a bargain, and more so, it the car I want. OK, if you have a $13K budget (and this may be too slim for what I want - but let's first see your lists) for modding your stock '05 LGT, what would you purchase for each of the following categories (I am leaving wheels and tires out of this budget and list as those are a personal preference and I already have a few 18"/8.5 wheels that I like). The goal is to have a completely pleasant, reliable, balanced daily driver that also happens to have around 300whp. OK contestants....the categories are (list all of the items for each category if you were after the goals listed above): New Turbo/intake and all related plumbing (include everything from new turbo to air intake to intercooler, MAF etc) New exhaust and all related parts (complete system) New Suspension and all related parts (coil overs, etc) New Brakes and all related parts (full front and back set ups w/braided lines, etc) Clutch (as long as the car is apart....) The point of doing all of the above will be lost if the car is not balanced, reliable, and entirely drivable as a daily driver. It is possible that I would do some auto-x in addition to daily driving. Again, the above are YOUR dream lists: what would you buy if you had $13K in your hand to go after the above goals. Sorry for the long post, and TIA for your lists and expertise. I have learned a ton from all of you over the years and would like to someday soon post some pics of my Subaru M3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 If you only want 300whp that is easy to do. Read my sig. That's on a Mustang dyno, they are known to read low. I have IPR tmic, vf52, catless Invidia up/dp to stock mid pipe. That's all. I guess 2 grand plus tuning. You could take the rest of the leftover money and buy a second car. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users paintpollz Posted May 22, 2012 Mega Users Share Posted May 22, 2012 I'd take the leftover money and buy a used scag mower or tractor. now back on topic. I would probably do just what Max says. I really like his build for DD "Remember Danny - Two wrongs don't make a right but three rights make a left." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted May 22, 2012 Moderators Share Posted May 22, 2012 This is fun. I'm with max...you can get to your goal for much less (however, you DID just put in a new engine, Byron!). BUT, if i was gonna blow a ton of money, off the top of my head: Sell engine that is in your car now along with up pipe, turbo other bits for ~$3k. Remove TBE, brakes, rotors--sell for $500 Now your budget is $15.5k. New engine, upgraded pistons, killer b oil pan, pickup, windage tray, matching P&P headers (UEL) and uppipe (maybe GTspec), do the work yourself (what the hell would this cost, $6-7k maybe?). Remaining budget is $8.5k AMR turbo for $2k. TBE for $1200ish. Koni inserts / shocks / springs all around for $1k. big break kit for $3.5k with rotors and ss lines. Sways, endlinks, rear mounts for $500. Remaining budget is $300. Your short by about $1200 that you need for a process west TMIC and a dyno tune. But most of my prices were pretty conservative for sales and expensive for purchases, so you'd probably find that somewhere along the way (i.e. a $2k AMR turbo is not necessary for 300whp). In all reality though, if I were you I would try to reach your goal a la Max's method and add some suspension goodies and a big brake kit. Keep the rest in an engine fund for when yours goes kaboom. It will eventually. "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobyscoodle Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 People on this forum spend years building and tweaking their cars to achieve a perfectly balanced DD performance car, and you want somebody to just list everything and do it for you? Are you aware of and prepared for the maintenance that will be involved with a fully built lgt? (even one that's only at the 300whp level? You're probably going to want a 16g, some T1's, and some bushings. The rest of the details you really need to do some research to get a better idea of. People are much more inclined to help you with specific questions or issues, not "I have $xxx, build my car for me please", there are shops you can pay to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 sell the car. buy miata. v8 swap. buy lottery tickets with the leftover money. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 power: BNR 18g w/ upgraded actuator & new fuel lines- $1000 1000cc injectors - $550 225 pump = $100 itsme fmic = $800 CNT catted dp = $350 STI uppipe = $100 k&n typhoon 73mm intake = $200 grimmspeed ebcs = $100 gfb bov = $230 stromung cbe (if u can find one) = $1000 dyno tune = $600 TOTAL = $5030 suspension: hotchkis sway bars = $230 avo reinf bracket = $100 kartboy endlinks = $200 KW or RCE coilovers = $1500 avo chassis braces = $300 TOTAL = $2330 drivetrain & misc: competition stage 2 clutch w/ flywheel = $650 tsk3 clutch kit = $160 full kartboy bushings kit =$100 kartboy STS = $150 killerB oil pickup tube & oil pan & windage tray = $650 brembo big brake upgrade w/ stainless lines/fluids/etc = $2500 TOTAL = $4210 brings you up to $11,570. use the leftover ~$2k for cosmetic upgrades/gauges/whatever u want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chutrain Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Are you doing any of the labor itself? If not, then you really don't have too much of a budget. If you want to tackle all categories, you may have half at reasonable performance levels and lacking in the others. Everyone does things different and so it may not work for you. I'll have to load my spreadsheet that I put together a few months back when I started going stage 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Are you forgetting labor reddawg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodog Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Again, the above are YOUR dream lists: what would you buy if you had $13K in your hand to go after the above goals. Don't get me wrong, I like my lightly mod'd spec.b and think it's an excellent all around value, but there is no way I would ever pour $13k into it or make an amount of mods that could not be easily put back to stock. Keep in mind, when you are done, your car will not be worth $23k. More like $12-14k. The private party (or higher range of trade in) value of your car plus $13k is a very solid down payment on any number of newer high performance vehicles around $35k to $55k (new or used) that you and the ladies will find quite enjoyable. S4, S5 or 335? Camaro? Corvette? Mustang? C350? E350? CLS63AMG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx045 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 power 2012 STi shortblock $1850 wiseco pistons $515 covert oil pickup $130 AMR CXR500 20g/td06 8cm $1350 Process West tmic $1020 DW 850cc injectors top feed $480(got a deal) DW 65c fuel pump $130 GS EBCS $110 Invidia catless DP $200 SPT CBE v2 free AEM CAI $150 total: $5935 suspension BC racing coilovers $900 Rallitek sway bars front and rear $350 AVO HD endlinks front and rear $160 AVO rear support brackets :$100 Hawk HPS pads $70? GS MCB $120? total: $1700 that's my current shit, more than 300whp but it's not easy with a 5EAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 ...that you and the ladies will find quite enjoyable. Whoah whoah whoah... who said anything about ladies? I was under the impression that the OP was not interested in ladies. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodog Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Oh snap, I totally forgot this was a subaru message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 13k will get you 950 hp 515 cid big block chevy Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx045 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 13k will get you 950 hp 515 cid big block chevy Not in awd and a legacy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Are you forgetting labor reddawg? i budgeted for a tune. but yea you're right sometimes i forget other people dont do their own labor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobyscoodle Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 but yea you're right sometimes i forget other people dont do their own labor Yea, every time I get a little lazy and decide to maybe have something done, I am instantly reminded why I do my own labor "Oh, so it's going to cost $150 for you to spend 20 minutes pressing in that $65 bushing? Now that I think about it, I'm not really THAT busy this saturday" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpmarky Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 13k for only 300whp and DIY labor? 16g Pw tmic 750cc dw injectors 65c dw fp Gs ebcs AVO panel filter Cnt catted dp Stock mid y pipe to prodrive mufflers Gfb response bov Rce t1 coils w/ 9k springs w/ camber plates WL rcck Avo offset bushings Avo subframe reinforcements front and rear Hotchkiss fr sway bars with reinforcement brackets Ts pitchstop Group n tranny mount Tranny mount bushings Cobb sts Avo Shifter bushings front and rear Brembo front and rear brake kit Technafit ss brake lines Clutch masters fx300 clutch Wrx singlemass flywheel Gs lw crank pulley Cusco front and rear LSD's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chutrain Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Have about $11k right here with all parts installed myself with the exception of the front Konis which I needed new strut housings. Also and in an Infamous tune. Missing a few prices that I still need to dig through papers. All new parts with the exception of the AP BBK and the rear Brembo calipers, and the Invidia downpipe. Suspension Koni Sport 750 Swift Springs 275 Kartboy Solid Endlinks 150 AVO Stout Mounts 85 Perrin F/R 25mm swaybars 280 SPT Lower Brace 129 R-REV Sports F/R Strut Braces 215 AVO Offset Control Arm Rear Bushings 125 AVO Control Arm Front Bushings 59 Energy Swaybar Bushings 25 Wheels/Tires 5Zigen 18x8.5 ET 48 FN01R-C 650 Hankook Evo V12 245/40/18 550 Brakes AP Racing 4-pot Front w/ 2-piece rotor and hat (drilled and slotted) 1000 STi Brembo 2-pot Rear (Brembo slotted) 540 Hawk Pads Front 120 Stainless Brakelines (AP Front, Technafit Rear) Onkel rear E-brake shoes and brackets 450 Grimmspeed Brake Booster Brace 85 Exhaust Invidia Up Pipe 125 Invidia Catted Downpipe 300 Stromung Quadtip Exhaust 900 Torque Exhaust Hangers Intake KSTech 73mm Intake 200 Engine BNR 18G w upgraded actuator 910 Grimmspeed 3- Port EBCS 90 Go Fast Bits Respons BOV 200 Deatschwerks 850CC Injectors 455 Deatschwerks 65C Fuel Pump 139 IP&T Filtered Oil Line Kit 175 PTP Turbo Blanket 80 TurboXS FMIC (satin black intercooler, wrinkle black piping) 889 Drivetrain Competition Cluth 2100 550 Kartboy Shifter Bushing 30 Kartboy Rear Shifter Bushing 35 Group N Engine Mounts 235 Group N Transmission Mounts Group N Pitch Mount Kartboy Crossmember Mounts 30 Subaru Short Throw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.hicksta Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Click my 'Pics & Mods' link in my sig block. kthxbai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboLag23 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I had made a list like this when I was recovering from my ACL surgery and had nothing better to do hahahaha. Slots in way below $13,000 however, which makes me wonder if there's anything I'm missing Anyone have anything to add? Stage 1 ($1,160): COBB AccessPort ($600) Cusco Sway bars ($325) Kartboy STI Endlinks F&R w/spacers ($230+$5) Stage 2 ($1,380): ERZ catted down pipe ($280) COBB Up pipe ($200) DBA 4000 Series Brake rotors F&R ($520) Hawk HPS Brake Pads F&R ($200) Goodridge GStop SS brake lines ($180) Stage 3 ($2,900): BC BR Coilovers ($1,000) SPT Catback ($1,100) AVO Top-Mount Intercooler ($800) Stage 4 ($2,230): AVO380 Ball-Bearing Turbo ($2,000) AVO Fuel Pump Assembly ($230) Visual: STI Front Lip ($100) Work Emotion Kai ($1,800) http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/diy-grill-done-right-plus-fog-bezel-matching-62899.html?p=1191120#post1191120 (free!) http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/headlight-clearing-w-pics-3737p2.html (free!) Window tints ($???) Interior: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/plug-n-play-aux-mod-2005-6cd-radios-18504.html ($80) Total Prices: Total mods: $9,460 with wheels, $7,660 without wheels. Car: ~$16,500 Car + Mods = ~$25,000 Alternate plan for brakes: Brembo front brake kit ($1,540) Brembo rear brake kit ($1,720) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Im fairly certain I went way over budget AMR CMX 550 PTP Turbo Blanket KSTECH INTAKE PERRIN FRONT MOUNT INTERCOOLER AGENCY POWER HARD INLET 8MM PHENOLIC SPACERS GFB BOV Prodrive EBCS Infamous1 Road Tune DW 850cc Injectors DW65C FUEL PUMP and BRACKET Fuel Hose Reroute GTSPEC Headers with Thermotec wrap and spray GTSPEC Up-Pipe with Thermotec wrap and spray Stromung CBE Torque Solutions Exhaust Hangers ERZ Catted 3” Downpipe with Thermotec wrap and spray COMP STAGE3 CLUTCH AND FLYWHEEL KIT MISHIMOTO RADIATOR MISHIMOTO FANS MISHIMOTO COOLANT RESEVOR Whiteline front and rear sway bar bushings KW2 COILOVERS (fresh rebuild) HOTCHKIS FRONT SWAYBAR HOTCHKIS REAR SWAYBAR AVO Rear Sway Bar Mount Reinforcements KARTBOY ENDLINKS CUSCO FRONT STRUT TOWER BAR Technafit Lines DBA 4000 Rotors D31 Drag Gunmetal 18x8 +48 Hubcentric rings Forged Lugs KDW2 245/35/18 GMS Radiator Hoses GroupNLeft Engine Mount GroupNRight Engine Mount GroupN Trans Mount GroupN Pitch Stop Whiteline Front Roll Center Kit WHITELINE FRONT INNER CONTROL ARM BUSHING KIT Whiteline Positive shift kit Whiteline Steering rack bushings Whiteline Rear Differential Bushing inserts Whiteline Rear Differntial Mount Bushings Kartboy Front shifter bushing Kartboy Rear shifter bushing GrimmSpeed Gaskets KillerB Windage tray KillerB Pick Up KILLER B OIL PAN Battery, smaller than OEM Perrin Lightweight Crank Pulley SUBTLE ALTERNATOR COVER SPT BATTERY TIE DOWN v2 SPT OIL CAP v2 SPT HEATSHIELD BLUE WIRE LOOM COBB RADIATOR SHROUD FRONT LIP Cleared lamps with HID and Halos DRL disable, relay+ wiring and HALO wiring to Fogs Rewire Fogs as DRL LED Interior Lighting Kit New Fuel Pressure Regulator STOPTECH BBK R-Rev Grill (already had actually) R-Rev Eyelids R-Rev Type-S Spoiler R-Rev K2-Style Window Spoiler R-Rev Strakes R-Rev Mudguards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx045 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Max, you essentially just bought a whole 'nother car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 He likes a little bit of Subaru to go with his aftermarket parts. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjweb Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Just make sure to buy a brand name intercooler. It is fact that knock offs and cheap garbage flow worse then brand name. Not all cores are created equally. Used three different intercoolers on my car in the past year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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