Kodax Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I realized that the 3.0R non-limited has a turning circle of 3.2 instead of what the Spec.B has of 2.6. I have driven a LGT and which has a turning circle of 2.8. I did felt a noticeable bit of difference as the turning is more responsive. I was wondering what I could do to change that. From my search, it seems that it is possible for me to swap the Spec.B steering rack into my 3.0R. But I also read that my camber toes does make a difference as well. So, I am slightly confused about what does the camber toes does to the turning circle. Also, since looking for a Spec.B steering rack is pretty difficult, I was wondering how much does it cost to get a brand new rack and how much labor is required to put it in. Any input is greatly appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanboy Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Seems like you are talking about turns lock-to-lock. The Spec B and LGT have the exact same rack. The difference in turns lock-to-lock is the wheel size on the SpecB. Because they are larger, the wheels physically can't turn as much. So bigger turning radius, and slightly smaller lock-to-lock number. Not sure what camber toes sounds like camel toe... Camber and toe-in/toe-out are adjustments that can change how stable the car feels in a straight line, how readily it turns in, and how well it behaves in turns. Some fiddling can be done with stock components when you get an alignment. Checkout: http://www.ozebiz.com.au/racetech/theory/align.html for a basic overview. -B http://www.standardshift.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob-e Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 cheapest solution is to get a smaller steering wheel. q-rack.com has nice units for $1200CAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodax Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 cheapest solution is to get a smaller steering wheel. q-rack.com has nice units for $1200CAD Are you serious...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodax Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 Seems like you are talking about turns lock-to-lock. The Spec B and LGT have the exact same rack. The difference in turns lock-to-lock is the wheel size on the SpecB. Because they are larger, the wheels physically can't turn as much. So bigger turning radius, and slightly smaller lock-to-lock number. Not sure what camber toes sounds like camel toe... Camber and toe-in/toe-out are adjustments that can change how stable the car feels in a straight line, how readily it turns in, and how well it behaves in turns. Some fiddling can be done with stock components when you get an alignment. Checkout: http://www.ozebiz.com.au/racetech/theory/align.html for a basic overview. Thanks for the input. I will definitely look into that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaNu1142 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Are you serious...? Fewer hands = fewer turns... right? I too am assuming you're talking about turns, not "turning circle" or "turning radius"... There's a thread on here about a guy that got an aftermarket/custom-made steering rack... IIRC, it ran around $1000. Tits mcgee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodax Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 Fewer hands = fewer turns... right? I too am assuming you're talking about turns, not "turning circle" or "turning radius"... There's a thread on here about a guy that got an aftermarket/custom-made steering rack... IIRC, it ran around $1000. Sorry about the confusion. I didn't know that there is a difference turning circle and turning radius. I am basically saying what could be done to make the car turn physically faster (other than physically steer the faster). I must have missed that thread. I only found a thread that someone asking about a swap of a Spec.B steering rack into an Outback. Do you have a link to the custom-made steering rack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaNu1142 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Maybe that was the thread I was referring to... is that different than what you're trying to accomplish? Tits mcgee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodax Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 Maybe that was the thread I was referring to... is that different than what you're trying to accomplish? It is the same as what I am trying to accomplish. But I saw a fellow member said something about camber/camel toe that it has great effects on what I am trying to accomplish. Which kinda threw me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1055 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Google steering multipliers. Should be what youre looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob-e Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Are you serious...? yes, but now I'm confused as to what you seek. Do you want to make tighter circles or do you want more steering angle with less input of the hands? 2 different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob-e Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 and yes, a smaller steering wheel will give you better steering response. granted, with more effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodax Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 Thanks for the input guys! I know which direction to go with this project now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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