Thourbow Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I forgot, if you set the AP to stock map, you will also reset the monitors, they are things the OBD II diagnostics sytem checks. Some don't set unless a certain amount of miles have passed, some require the car to sit over night. I think there are 12 or so and our cars. 2005 or newer vehicles require at least seven or eight to set for the car to pass. If you load a different map, you need to drive 100 miles or so, with varied driving, some freeway and some city roads, let the car sit over night, drive again in the morning 30 minutes or so to get it warm and take it in. I passed the Smog test with flying colors with a stage II tune and with the CNT downpipe two years ago, but the same shop now said no no to my downpipe, I guess they werent to familiar with the car then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NutBucket Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I would leave the tune. As long as you don't drive it hard it shouldn't hurt anything. Swap, warm it up, smog it and swap again. Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Specb122 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 What's a fair price to have a shop change out the downpipe? I did the work myself originally but no longer have a garage and it's been raining all week. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris GTO TT Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 I want to say FW Motorsports in Rocklin quoted me about $150 to remove and replace the down pipe including new gaskets. 2003 Baja 5MT 2016 Outback 2.5i Premium w/Eyesight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 We charge $150. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Specb122 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 We charge $150. Is that $150 for two swaps or one... if you swap get a smog then swap back that would be two actual downpipe swaps.... is that $150 or $300? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 $150 each time. $300 for two swaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Specb122 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Thanks! Any thoughts on running with stock dp for a few days? Been running a stage 2 E-TUNE for a while... but flashed a real time map to ECO mode for smog with stock downpipe. Might be a day or two before I get the COBB downpipe back on. Can I jump it up to "stock married" OR stage 1.... or leave in ECO mode... I was told somewhere NOT to run stage 2 with stock downpipe... but this ECO mode is killing me... SOOOO SLOWWWW... feels like a NON-TURBO subaru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 If you have an AP and your current mods are within the specs listed in the map notes then you should be fine running a stage1 ots map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Motion Posted April 27, 2014 Author Share Posted April 27, 2014 Just went for a smog test, sniffer is still there. I've attached the result. Nothing has changed, engine wise, since the last time I did the smog. I had a BOV on the car for a long time, it backfires, but I guess that didn't kill the cat. Replaced with stock BPV prior to test. They bitched a bit about the t-fitting for the boost gauge, and my CARB legal AEM intake... Similar numbers to 2 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RooTBeeR Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Mine is coming up soon...guess I should rebuild the engine so I can actually smog it. "Build" Thread <--Link (OLD) '05 EJ255 now a '13 EJ257 Bottom End w/D25 heads (NEW) Forever Slow [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 So glad I don't have to deal with that PITA any longer. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris GTO TT Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Went and had mine smog tested today HC was 99 at idle I went by totally stock and uninstalled the Accessport to. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/13/tedypy2u.jpg 2003 Baja 5MT 2016 Outback 2.5i Premium w/Eyesight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 You probably needed to drive the car more with the stock DP on so that it could burn clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris GTO TT Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I installed it last week and drove it all week. I suspect I just didn't drive it long enough and get it hot enough, then it sat for about an hour before they tested it. 2003 Baja 5MT 2016 Outback 2.5i Premium w/Eyesight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 It needs to get hot. Usually a good long drive does it. You can see in the test results that as the car got warmer it got cleaner. The numbers are better at the 2500rpm test. So after the car idled for a few minutes and then they ran it at 2500rpm for 30 seconds the cats were more efficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris GTO TT Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Yeah it appears that's exactly what it was, I went back and drove the route I used yesterday to 'warm up' the car and it was about a 10 min drive. Just too short to really get it hot enough. 2003 Baja 5MT 2016 Outback 2.5i Premium w/Eyesight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 I would estimate a 30-45 minute drive might be enough. 10 minutes probably not enough. But, you passed and thats what matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanahjoe Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I got mine done last weekend and it failed. I have a Perrin Catted DP and a Stage 2 tune. The shop still did the sniffer test, passed visual, but failed the idle HCs. I compared my stock tune to the one I am using and I do not see the modded tune having any idle settings different than stock, so for passing the idle test I don't think changing back to stock tune would make a difference. If I can get the car to idle at higher RPMs like 850, and get the AFR to higher than 14.7 without it stalling, it might pass. I did some logging and found my idle is currently at around 14.3 AFR. I am close to needing an oil change, so I should get that done and the air filter replaced as well. This is of course to avoid putting the stock DP, which I don't have anymore, back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 One of the things about Cali smog testing - always change your oil (unless it's only a few miles used) - before you go in for the smog. Hydrocarbons build-up in the oil and they'll amp up the output which the sniffer detects. That, and make darn sure the cats are good and hot before testing. Cold cats aren't as efficient. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 His cat is cold or going out. Besides the fact that he fails visual and the tech is in violation of the law. No hi flow cat is legal in Cali. It is a violation of federal law to remove or modify any cat in working condition if the car is newer than 10 years old. So, technically no down pipe is legal in all 50 states as it is a violation of federal law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Yep - unfortunately. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FX35B4 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I got mine done last weekend and it failed. I have a Perrin Catted DP and a Stage 2 tune. The shop still did the sniffer test, passed visual, but failed the idle HCs. I compared my stock tune to the one I am using and I do not see the modded tune having any idle settings different than stock, so for passing the idle test I don't think changing back to stock tune would make a difference. If I can get the car to idle at higher RPMs like 850, and get the AFR to higher than 14.7 without it stalling, it might pass. I did some logging and found my idle is currently at around 14.3 AFR. I am close to needing an oil change, so I should get that done and the air filter replaced as well. This is of course to avoid putting the stock DP, which I don't have anymore, back in. Will E85 help??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RooTBeeR Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 His cat is cold or going out. Besides the fact that he fails visual and the tech is in violation of the law. No hi flow cat is legal in Cali. It is a violation of federal law to remove or modify any cat in working condition if the car is newer than 10 years old. So, technically no down pipe is legal in all 50 states as it is a violation of federal law. next year my car is 10!...and i still cant use a highflow... "Build" Thread <--Link (OLD) '05 EJ255 now a '13 EJ257 Bottom End w/D25 heads (NEW) Forever Slow [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Will E85 help??? Not in California. But in Colorado, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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