Turkeylord Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Alright, so I think I've got all the parts I need collected except for the TMIC, which I'll pick up Monday. This will be the biggest DIY project I've ever attempted, so I want to make sure I plan it out and do it right (this is where you pros come in ). I've done a lot of reading already so I think I've got a decent hangle on things, but I'm sure I've missed something... Here is my current setup: 2005 Legacy GT Wagon, 5MT tranny Stock clutch, replaced when I bought it less than 5k ago Stock intake, MAF, Inlet, TB hose Invidia UP CNT Catted DP Stock Cat-back Cobb APv2 New bits: BNR EVO3 16g Hybrid AVO TMIC Grimmspeed EBCS Deatschwerks 850cc Sidefeeds Walbro 255 NGK Plugs Heat wrap Here's my plan so far, input appreciated... Disconnect battery Remove engine cover Remove TMIC Remove DP Remove turbo (msprank's walkthrough) Plug swap & Compression test (anyone have a good guide for the test?) Swap injectors Wrap up-pipe Install BNR turbo Reinstall DP Install AVO TMIC Reinstall engine cover Install Walbro 255 Reconnect battery Flash Shamar's Tune Then just make sure oil/coolant/fuel are all primed and crank it? Hoping to get this all accomplished in a ~10 hour window next weekend. Am I missing the boat on anything? TIA and thanks for the help you've already provided msprank & bryan@bnr! Can't wait till it's done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohninegt25 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 subscribed! CAI? Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeylord Posted December 8, 2011 Author Share Posted December 8, 2011 No CAI, not necessary at the power levels I'm shooting for. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohninegt25 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 What are you looking at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users paintpollz Posted December 8, 2011 Mega Users Share Posted December 8, 2011 you need a clutch, that stock one wont hold well for too long "Remember Danny - Two wrongs don't make a right but three rights make a left." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeylord Posted December 8, 2011 Author Share Posted December 8, 2011 Not terribly concerned about dyno numbers, but I'm looking for 270+ on 91 and 300+ on an e85 tune next spring. I'm definitely going to have to keep an eye on the clutch, dealer put it in no charge so I can't complain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Sorry to say why so low in the hp #'s. With all that money you better be mid-upper 300's. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeylord Posted December 8, 2011 Author Share Posted December 8, 2011 I was talking AWHP, or do you mean that's still too low? I'd be thrilled to get close to toomanytoyz' results here: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/love-my-lil-bnr-16g-evo-dyno-results-inside-171887.html?t=171887 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Read my sig, 280whp, stock injectors and fuel pump, IPR tmic, Perrin panel filter. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users paintpollz Posted December 8, 2011 Mega Users Share Posted December 8, 2011 Sorry to say why so low in the hp #'s. With all that money you better be mid-upper 300's. That high even with a 16g? "Remember Danny - Two wrongs don't make a right but three rights make a left." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeylord Posted December 8, 2011 Author Share Posted December 8, 2011 I appreciate the comments about expected output, but that's not really my intent for this thread. If you're wondering about the reasoning behind the components I chose, the intent was to have plenty of fuel available, even on e85 in -20 degree temps. With the 850's and 255, I should never have to worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobyscoodle Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 You may not have posted this because they're details but oil line, gaskets, etc.? I'd expect a solid 300whp on pump and ~330whp on e85, with plenty of torque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeylord Posted December 8, 2011 Author Share Posted December 8, 2011 You may not have posted this because they're details but oil line, gaskets, etc.? I'd expect a solid 300whp on pump and ~330whp on e85, with plenty of torqueYes, thank you. I've got new GS UP and DP gaskets, Mr Gasket 738G for the IC, Infamous oil line, & an install kit for the 255. The only thing I haven't grabbed yet is new O rings for the injectors. $30? Really? I've been snapping pics of the stuff... http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r16/turkeylord/LGT%20Stage%203%20Upgrade/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06gtleg Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Why only a 16g? Skip that and go with an 18g. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users paintpollz Posted December 8, 2011 Mega Users Share Posted December 8, 2011 GL with your build! That would take me way longer than 10 hours... "Remember Danny - Two wrongs don't make a right but three rights make a left." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 This thread should be titled "Help me plan my stage 3 install". Apparently some are confused about work vs install. ex... Why only a 16g? Skip that and go with an 18g. Skip the 18g and go to a thread about which turbo should I get to post in instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeylord Posted December 8, 2011 Author Share Posted December 8, 2011 Done. Hopefully that's clearer *edit* Well, apparently in only changes the title of the first post, I think a mod would have to change the main title... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Consider a turbo blanket and wrap the DP from the bellmouth down to where it bends under the car to keep heat out of the engine bay. I my turboblanket. I can touch the heatshield where it has the no touchie symbol for several seconds after hard driving. Works crazy good. Your build looks like its going to be a LOT of fun for a daily. A real street thug on e85. EDIT: The major difference in your 16g/e85 and my vf39/e85 setup build is equal length headers and FMIC. I drove a similar car for a long time. Hope you are excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeylord Posted December 8, 2011 Author Share Posted December 8, 2011 Consider a turbo blanket and wrap the DP from the bellmouth down to where it bends under the car to keep heat out of the engine bay. I my turboblanket. I can touch the heatshield where it has the no touchie symbol for several seconds after hard driving. Works crazy good. Your build looks like its going to be a LOT of fun for a daily. A real street thug on e85.That's exactly what I'm shooting for, thanks! DP is wrapped already, what blanket did you go with? Great idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_sheen Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 you need a clutch, that stock one one hold well for too long if he has an OEM replacement 5k ago, he should be fine for awhile. all depends how you drive. i have 59k on my car, 26k of which have been stage 3. still bangin that stock clutch. and yes, i do drive spirited at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 If his tq numbers are anything like mine, it will not be fine (I liquidated an exedy stage1 in about 5k miles - after 10k at stage 3 pump) but his numbers should be a tad lower. It should definately be fine on pump gas without launches and ffshifting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_sheen Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 If his tq numbers are anything like mine, it will not be fine (I liquidated an exedy stage1 in about 5k miles) - but his numbers should be a tad lower. It should definately be fine on pump gas without launches and ffshifting. out of curiosity what dyno did you run on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Numbers are just things you plug into an equation and its difficult to compare one set to another. Infamous1 airboy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeylord Posted December 13, 2011 Author Share Posted December 13, 2011 Picked up the AVO TMIC yesterday - ready to roll! I hope to get the fuel pump done one of the nights this week, then it's on for Friday/Saturday! http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r16/turkeylord/LGT%20Stage%203%20Upgrade/IMG_4804.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeylord Posted December 17, 2011 Author Share Posted December 17, 2011 Got er done last night! All except swapping plugs anyway. Had a couple buddies over to help. 6 hours total including servicing the starter bendix, pretty happy with how everything went for rookies! After getting everything primed back up, took her for a drive. Went and put some fuel in, got the DAM back up to 1, then started doing some mild pulls. Staying off the redline till I do the fuel pump, but I was seeing peaks of 21lbs. Now come on DW and get that pump released! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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