JDM SpecB Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 thread jack.... check out JDM girls on facebook..... they are from Australia... I didnt know there was mountains or snow in Australia.... I'm sorry.. Its New Zealand not Australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exbagboy Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 That's what I thought. Or Middle-earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDM SpecB Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagcars26 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 How much are you willing to wager? Wagons are dead in the US unless you market them as a non-wagon that happens to look like a wagon. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKs17 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 I personally love wagons, and hate hatchbacks. But if your the average consumer, you will hate wagons and love hatchbacks. Its funny how things work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDM SpecB Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 I personally love wagons, and hate hatchbacks. But if your the average consumer, you will hate wagons and love hatchbacks. Its funny how things work. Must just be US citizens who hate wagons as the rest of the world (there is one out there) seem to prefer Subaru wagons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burock Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 There is no shortage of Subaru Wagons in New England. In the hospital doctor's lot where I work in Providence RI, nearly every Subaru is a wagon, and there are a lot of them. Most popular cars in the lot in order of decreasing frequency: Subaru, Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Toyota. Hardly any American cars. Wagon's are the ultimate in versatility while still maintaining proper handling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubOperator Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 I personally love wagons, and hate hatchbacks. But if your the average consumer, you will hate wagons and love hatchbacks. Its funny how things work. F the average consumer. This is the category responsible for giving us dull transportation devices that replace real cars. 2005 LGT Wagon Limited 6 MT RBP Stage 2 - 248K 2007 B9 Tribeca Limited DGM - 258K SOLD - 2005 OB Limited 5 MT Silver - 245K SOLD - 2010 OB 6 MT Silver - 205K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubOperator Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Wagon's are the ultimate in versatility while still maintaining proper handling. How true. I decided to buy a wagon after I couldn't fit some kitchen chairs I bought in my (at that time) full size sedan. The memories of my classmate's Audi 100 wagon (different time, different country) I drooled over years ago helped cement the decision. After getting my 5 speed GT BP I have never looked back to sedans. 2005 LGT Wagon Limited 6 MT RBP Stage 2 - 248K 2007 B9 Tribeca Limited DGM - 258K SOLD - 2005 OB Limited 5 MT Silver - 245K SOLD - 2010 OB 6 MT Silver - 205K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelacy Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 F the average consumer. This is the category responsible for giving us dull transportation devices that replace real cars. And they're an integral part of our economy let alone Subaru's well being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubOperator Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 And they're an integral part of our economy let alone Subaru's well being. True. I do wish though that while Subaru repeats Toyota's success by catering to average customer, they also learn from mistakes Toyota made (and acknowledged) dialing their marketing and engineering focus to average customers only. There's a reason Toyota wants to look more sporty and dynamic now. I don't want Subaru to be in that position in the future. Fair enough ? 2005 LGT Wagon Limited 6 MT RBP Stage 2 - 248K 2007 B9 Tribeca Limited DGM - 258K SOLD - 2005 OB Limited 5 MT Silver - 245K SOLD - 2010 OB 6 MT Silver - 205K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelacy Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 True. I do wish though that while Subaru repeats Toyota's success by catering to average customer, they also learn from mistakes Toyota made (and acknowledged) dialing their marketing and engineering focus to average customers only. There's a reason Toyota wants to look more sporty and dynamic now. I don't want Subaru to be in that position in the future. Fair enough ? Depending on how long you live I'd rather have Subaru go that route and then come back with the financial backing to do even more than they could have just trucking along being the niche-to-mainstream brand they are. But I would be very upset if they decided to try and show off their other aspects of drivetrains like RWD and FWD so that they can go mainstream (and in the process losing AWD). Affordable and proven AWD and their boxer engines are the only things Subaru can play when at the table. Otherwise they might as well just start rebranding Toyota's regardless of how the shell looks. They said in an article about the BRZ that Subaru wants to show the world they can do RWD too. I hope someone intelligent at Subaru is watching how this is all going. Brand loyalty is Subaru's foundation at the moment anyways and most people buy Subaru's for AWD, not RWD. I hope they keep doing what's good for both sides or just crash and burn. I should say I like their AWD and the low center of gravity afforded by the boxer engines but I'm not going to be happy if I get some retarded AWD system from Toyota like the one on the RAV4 for a Subaru. I like having an inexpensive but proven AWD vehicle but I may have to start looking at other competitors (and shelling out more money) if they decide they'd rather follow RWD "just because it sounds cool." Not like that matters to anyone but I'm just saying that's why I'd rather see them crash and burn or just keep bringing in the goodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 They probably expect that some "crazy" person like frank_ster would make an AWD version of it just because they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortal2None Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 They probably expect that some "crazy" person like frank_ster would make an AWD version of it just because they can. He doesn't need any more "projects" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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